Games MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE ENDGAME!!

[TheMoa]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

How does that confirm that?
Honestly you are not making sense Charlie. Niichan can't cast a vote on this day phase!
Bullet proof, is basically someone immune to night kills! And if Niichan is a Mafia obviously he is not going to be killed, unless the insane doctor kills him!

no, the insane doctor can't kill him... the only way to get him killed is by lynching him

 

[Charlie]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

Nothing happened to Niichan? He can't vote this round, how didn't Far "power" not work on him?
Charlie being bullet proof only makes that person imune to night kills ... he can still get sick!

Yeah I was wrong - i just though only lala died. Shouldn't his bullet proof prevent him being affected from lalas infection?

 

[jorped]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

no, the insane doctor can't kill him... the only way to get him killed is by lynching him

You didn't understand my point Moa. My point is that Niichan might not be bulletproof. If he really isn't bullet proof the only way to kill him is either by insane doctor at night, which i am not fucking sure any more if i am or not, or by lynching during day!

 

[Hakuteiken]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

Yeah I was wrong - i just though only lala died. Shouldn't his bullet proof prevent him being affected from lalas infection?

Nope. Bulletproof is immune to night kill, but not to the other nighttime abilities.

 

[Charlie]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

Nope. Bulletproof is immune to night kill, but not to the other nighttime abilities.

Yeah I just saw that - so he can still be bullet proof
I guess I bought into Jorps mastery of lies...

 

[Hakuteiken]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

1) For a 22-player game, it's safe to say it was 4 Mafia + 1 Sleeper, meaning we only have one Mafia member alive.
2) Faust was inactive for the last two days. What happened in that period? Three Townies (Mido, Faust himself, Farfalla) got killed.
3) If Faust was a Mafia, he would be more careful to blend in with his already suspicious status. Personally, the chances that he got uninterested with the game as the only remaining Mafia was negligibly small. That's why I didn't suspect him for most of the game, let it be in the last day phase.
4) The reason I voted for him was simple. He was about to be bandwagoned, there is nothing wrong with that.
5) However, the slight difference was the absence of niichan. He couldn't even have a word about this, and considering he was mostly on Faust's side the last day, we could assume he would be protesting it today, as well.
6) On top of that, I stated my suspicions of niichan on multiple occasions, so that he doesn't get relaxed with my presence around if he was a Mafia indeed.
7) niichan being absent on a Townie bandwagon would only solidify my case.
8) Naturally, if niichan was the Mafia, he could have erased my activity at this night or take out jorped, who was possibly the Insane Doctor. Granted, jorped wasn't really on my side at this, but I could easily make my case on this matter and get him to use his night skill once again. If he was the Mafia, niichan wouldn't be sure jorped wouldn't get him this time.
9) Instead, niichan took out Farfalla, whose skill wasn't really a problem for a Mafia this late in the game.
10)That is, supposedly Mafia niichan not only let the only one protesting his innocence to a degree (me), but also left that person with someone who could easily assist him (jorped) to take niichan down. This all points out that it'd be a complete blunder.
11)To say the least, that's hardly the move the one who initiated nearly every Mafia bandwagon we founded. For a Mafia to be playing this route, there is no room for even the slightest mistake and that'd count as a major one in my eyes.
12)Therefore, niichan is not playing a funny game. He's the Bulletproof Townie, as he suggests.

 

[TheMoa]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

You didn't understand my point Moa. My point is that Niichan might not be bulletproof. If he really isn't bullet proof the only way to kill him is either by insane doctor at night, which i am not fucking sure any more if i am or not, or by lynching during day!

you are the insane one... if you're not mafia

being insane doesn't mean to kill every night

 

[Charlie]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

you are the insane one... if you're not mafia

being insane doesn't mean to kill every night

But we already had two pro town doctors right?
A thrid one too? Whats the chance with 3 doctors in a game?
Only other possibility is Nii chan was lying about his role and Jorp is lying.

 

[TheMoa]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

But we already had two pro town doctors right?
A thrid one too? Whats the chance with 3 doctors in a game?
Only other possibility is Nii chan was lying about his role and Jorp is lying.

we had imp and faust... both were doctors, but it wasn't specified what kind of doctors they were. We are playing a game of 22 people, so we could very well have a normal, an insane and a naive doctor.

for sure we had/have an insane one... since we were getting 2 kills per night.
So it was either faust or jorped, like I said, I think it would be too risky for jorped to lie with faust out there, who could easily deny his lies
so it gives me you
a mason that wasn't recruited and yet isn't the recruiter

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and nichan... we know that an insane doctor went after him for 2 straight nights, being it jorped or faust
so it kind of gives legitimacy to his claim of being bulletproof

 

[Charlie]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

we had imp and faust... both were doctors, but it wasn't specified what kind of doctors they were. We are playing a game of 22 people, so we could very well have a normal, an insane and a naive doctor.

for sure we had/have an insane one... since we were getting 2 kills per night.
So it was either faust or jorped, like I said, I think it would be too risky for jorped to lie with faust out there, who could easily deny his lies
so it gives me you
a mason that wasn't recruited and yet isn't the recruiter

Yes, a regular mason - all that was said was I was a mason and Evil was the recruiter.
From there we went for Haku, xi0 and Orgz but the only that remains is Haku and I believe we went for 3c but he was killed before that I cant recall...

So either Jorped lied or nii chan lied.

For me the confirmed townies are

Moa, Haku and myself -

I think Jorped is lying -

 

[jorped]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

you are the insane one... if you're not mafia

being insane doesn't mean to kill every night

No! Since we can't say for sure, who Faust used is role on, 2 night phases ago, we can't say for sure he is the naive one and i am the insane. If he really did use his role on mido as i did, it could mean he was the insane and i am the naive. Plus failing this night phase to kill Charlie isn't obviously a reason for me to say i am insane or naive.

 

[Charlie]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

No! Since we can't say for sure, who Faust used is role on, 2 night phases ago, we can't say for sure he is the naive one and i am the insane. If he really did use his role on mido as i did, it could mean he was the insane and i am the naive. Plus failing this night phase to kill Charlie isn't obviously a reason for me to say i am insane or naive.

If what you're saying is true then nii chan was never bullet proof
but who will believe that right?

 

[TheMoa]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

No! Since we can't say for sure, who Faust used is role on, 2 night phases ago, we can't say for sure he is the naive one and i am the insane. If he really did use his role on mido as i did, it could mean he was the insane and i am the naive. Plus failing this night phase to kill Charlie isn't obviously a reason for me to say i am insane or naive.

well... you went for evil and mido on straight nights. both of them got killed.. the odds of you going for the right guys like that aren't big
yes, you could be naive, but I don't think that it is the case

 

[Hakuteiken]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

If what you're saying is true then nii chan was never bullet proof
but who will believe that right?

Read my post above. If niichan wasn't immune to night kills, he definitely blundered, which, for me, can't be the case.
8 and latter points.

 

[TheMoa]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

Yes, a regular mason - all that was said was I was a mason and Evil was the recruiter.
From there we went for Haku, xi0 and Orgz but the only that remains is Haku and I believe we went for 3c but he was killed before that I cant recall...

So either Jorped lied or nii chan lied.

For me the confirmed townies are

Moa, Haku and myself -

I think Jorped is lying -

yes, you could be a regular mason. But I don't think it's the case, I think that you're a mafia mason
when the 3 other masons came out of the closet and made sure to not reveal who was the 4th one... you came forward and screwed their strategy.
your behavior was very strange in some rounds and all that
that's why I don believe that you are the mafia mason

 

[jorped]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

@Haku regarding your posts ... there's no reason for Niichan to go for me this night. It was obvious i was going for Charlie, second why would he kill me anyway, if i was most likely gonna be lynched on the next day phase? And if i ended killing him during the night, and if he was the mafia, game would be over then, but him killing me wouldn't prevent me from killing him if i decided to use my role on him. As i already mentioned i decided to go for Charlie cuz he is the most suspicious.

Second why would Niichan kill you, if he believes you won't go for him? Could anything happen during the night phase, that would remove the suspicion of me or Charlie? The only thing that could happen, would be me killing someone, but for that to happen, it is needed for me to be the INSANE, and not the naive ... and i also have to be lucky because there's 50% chance! This might be the reason why Niichan was so worried about how early we ended the day phase. With faust out, and if i had been able to kill Charlie .... and Charlie didn't end being the Mafia, Niichan would be the Mafia .. and at this point as it would be me, you, Moa, we would be able to win this game by lynching him.

And anyway Farfalla being killed raises suspicion to my side. She has been targeting me this all time ... so i am basically the one who wins the most with this! Why would i go for Far, when i could go for you? Far seemed to be really confused at this stages and spends a lot less time online than you, it would be much EASIER to manipulate her, than manipulate you at this stage! Just tell me why at this stage if i was Mafia i would leave the most dangerous townie alive? And at the same time why would i gamble with the fact that Far would cast her role on someone else?

 

[TheMoa]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

I wanted to go for charlie before... but the mafia boss thing derailed that

unless NN got me fooled.. and if he did, he gambled a lot and the win would be a rewarding prize
it's either charlie or jorped, by the numbers we have 2 days.. so it's our win.

anyway, I'd like to see nichan take on this
dd went to sleep anyway, we have a lot of hours to work this out

 

[Hakuteiken]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

Well, jorped, actually, based on my assessment above, I was about to clear your name, as well.
But now, since you brought up something good regarding niichan's status, I'll have to reconsider it all.

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Regardless, here is what I was considering until reading your post.

13)The way this Mafia is playing isn't really the way the newbie Jorped would play. That's pretty well planned.jorped only possesses a marginal chance to be the Mafia. To be fair, being a newbie Mafia is a whole lot tougher than being a newbie Townie. I stated it jokingly in the game discussion thread, telling how I'd screw up if I were the Mafia.
14)To confirm his status, I pressured jorped a couple of days ago, and he wasn't really doing well under pressure. niichan stated it was something to do with his persona, too, so, that's something I'd agree.
15)To make it more interesting, he was the last one to claim the Doctor role, and as Charlie suggested, this is a low possibility, although it's not impossible by definition to have three Doctors in the game. Besides, niichan noted it was too risky for jorped to claim the role at that point, since there were people about whom we had little info. Someone else could have jumped in to claim the role and we would immediately confirm there was one liar amongst them without any more suspicions or second thoughts.
16)Such a development would mean the Mafia hunt list would be significantly narrowed down and that'd also count as a major blunder.
17)jorped is not lying. His "I'll be more active later" statement was not a facade, either. I initially suspected that excuse for a little while, since people tended to use that far too often as I observed. However, he lived up to his own argument by gradually increasing his activity.
18)So, he's the Doctor, though his real/insane/naive Doctor status is a question mark for now.

 

[Charlie]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

Essentially its a 4 on 1 or 3 or 2

If moa and haku takes my side and we go after nii chan or jorped
We have 3 solid townies

If we believe nii chan as the bulletproof - then it should be a 4 on 1 against jorped.

Moa seems to believe Jorped and Haku seems to believe in Niichan

We're screwed....

 

[jorped]

Re: MAFIA GAME 22 DEATH NOTE DAY 7!

I wanted to go for charlie before... but the mafia boss thing derailed that

What Mafia boss thing? I mentioned already 2 times i pmed DD, and he said there wasn't necessarily needed for mafia to have a boss.
If you don't believe me, feel free to ask him, though since he went to sleep, you will only get an answer in a couple of hours

Essentially its a 4 on 1 or 3 or 2

If moa and haku takes my side and we go after nii chan or jorped
We have 3 solid townies

If we believe nii chan as the bulletproof - then it should be a 4 on 1 against jorped.

Moa seems to believe Jorped and Haku seems to believe in Niichan

We're screwed....

Only 4 can cast a vote, so it will basically end as 3-1-0, or there are some chances it might be 2-1-1.