Games Mafia Game 97 - Omoneko: Answer Arc - End Game

[Copy Panda]

The witch shall praise the wise and bestow four treasures. One shall be all the gold from the Golden Land. One shall be the resurrection of all the dead souls. One shall be the resurrection of the love that was lost. One shall be to put the witch to sleep for all time.

Post-game
End of Game Death Post
End of Game Winner Post
Updated OP
Night Actions Umi I + Night Actions Umi II
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[Vandred]

That is, if you don't get there first. From all it looks, you should consider going there next. I'm just gonna assume you recruited Gajeel or James yesterday. But I'm not sure how to proceed here going on. Looking at how many Mafias had already Mafia Mason secondary, this is probably just a bastard role like so many others it seems. Perhaps this role is the best used to help out with our Detective dilemma - though no guarantee for M.Mason secondary here too.

You mean, I should go to the Golden Land? '3' Or to recruit Bel?

She's one of the possibilities I have in mind for sure, since I'm well aware of where the usefulness of my role ends, and I believe I've hit that wall. From now on it's more useful to attempt to confirm people the hard way - not when I successfully recruit them, but when I fail - and then hope the scum is short enough on numbers that they can't waste actions on shattering people.

Not sure if he said his targets, would need to check, but he certainly said his role pre-recruitment was Doctor.
@Vandred removing Det and Doc roles in first 2 nights, impressive Mason work =3=

They're the ones who hinted at trash roles /3\
But yeah, I'm fully prepared for the eventual reveal that Lambu was the only useful Det. =3=
Though he was kinda killed and shattered right after, so...

@Evil3ye, Daws did tell me what he did on N1 and N2, want me to share? It's not exactly ground-breaking stuff.

 

[Equaling Heaven]

killing him because he's been an inconvenience

If it was the case I or any of the other dets would be dead via lynch by now too due to our shitty results aside from DD's thing with marm.

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Not saying that he's scum or that I know something, but people saying they think he's town are doing so because they don't want to feel guilty in case he flips innocent. None want to be at fault.

 

[digitaldude]

But wait, if most(?) people feel Shad is townie, are we just killing him because he's been an inconvenience? I personally for one would not mind lynching Shobu instead...

Well his role is bomb defuser with 1 bomb, its a single use role meaning he probably wont break any illusions. The kamikaze bomb can explode on any night he wants to even night 1. Doesnt fit with the game set up. Only thing in shad favor is he was on jinx train pretty quickly.

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Jinx said she blocked shad night 1, so maybe shad isnt a mafia thats in jinx team.

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Anyway if you genuinely believe its shobu over shad then vote now, no one will mass move votes with 10 minutes left. @Holt

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Also consider the structure of the mafia teams, there doesnt seem to be any mirroring in the roles we only have two bosses but 1 boss was a lover, is it possible 1 large team had two bosses? but with 31 people and one killing party plus golden council everything would still move at a snails pace. So there are probably two teams.

 

[GrySun]

One thing that bothers me also on Shad is that I called him Shadis on D2 and he sounded back then as if he‘s claiming to have a secondary role. That‘s pretty early for a mafia to hint at a secondary.

 

[Copy Panda]

omo less than 90 minutes left. I hope y'all don't suddenly start moving yer votes​

 

[GrySun]

What‘s your role Shadis?

You guessed half of it right

Now my Attack on Titan knowledge is rusty but wasn‘t Shadis that teacher guy? Would he in a way fit defuser or Super Mason?

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omo less than 90 minutes left. I hope y'all don't suddenly start moving yer votes

Don‘t try us.

 

[Gajeel]

Now my Attack on Titan knowledge is rusty but wasn‘t Shadis that teacher guy? Would he in a way fit defuser or Super Mason?

Spoiler ahead, but Shadis died by detonating a ship's gunpowder alongside Magath, hence exploding the ship. It's the opposite of Bomb Defuser, but it has a link I guess.

 

[GrySun]

Spoiler ahead, but Shadis died by detonating a ship's gunpowder alongside Magath, hence exploding the ship. It's the opposite of Bomb Defuser, but it has a link I guess.

Hm. Do you think it could be a valid indication he is legit? As out of place as his role is.

 

[Mazino]

Hm. Do you think it could be a valid indication he is legit? As out of place as his role is.

well who would you suggest instead if shad rlly is legit?

 

[Gajeel]

Hm. Do you think it could be a valid indication he is legit? As out of place as his role is.

I don't think that alone is a valid indication.
I can see two outcomes from that. He's either a town (defuser - another role?) who is hiding something related to Vandred and is not willing to tell town for some reason, or he's mafia bomb (also fits the hint, shad being a chad) trying his best to take the mason team out without wasting night actions on them (might explain why Vandred is still alive?) for the sake of his team.

 

[GrySun]

well who would you suggest instead if shad rlly is legit?

Idk. Shobu may just get hostkilled, Nii‘s death would confirm me at worst, and otherwise we‘re really just fishing in a pond. Cinera? Holt? Bel?

 

[Evil3ye]

Come on now, there is no way this guy is legit. It was ultra clear by how hard he was pushing to delay the marmalade lynch on day 2. Defensiveness and bad faith argumentation just continued most predominantly yesterday with the far fetched Daws theories. His time has long run out.

@Vandred , yeah obviously not golden Land is what I meant but catching / neutralizing the sleeper.

 

[Shad]

I'm voting early because i really don't feel like talking right now, please don't hurt my feelings in the next 1h.

But I agree on a shobu lynch, I think it a fair one.
I also don't want to be remembered as the guy who just leaves :/

@votekill shobu

Ty you all for laughing at my jokes even the not intentional one, it means a lot to me.

Have fun, that the whole point of playing!

 

[digitaldude]

@GrySun did he hint that day 1?? or after samuel died.

 

[Mazino]

Idk. Shobu may just get hostkilled, Nii‘s death would confirm me at worst, and otherwise we‘re really just fishing in a pond. Cinera? Holt? Bel?

bel cinera holt...yeah i get that
but do you believe that there is no scum in you 4 dets? i mean with lamb it would ve been 5 from the get go. doesnt sit right with me

 

[GrySun]

@GrySun did he hint that day 1?? or after samuel died.

D2, so after Samuel died.

 

[Gajeel]

I'm voting early because i really don't feel like talking right now, please don't hurt my feelings in the next 1h.

But I agree on a shobu lynch, I think it a fair one.
I also don't want to be remembered as the guy who just leaves :/

@votekill shobu

Ty you all for laughing at my jokes even the not intentional one, it means a lot to me.

Have fun, that the whole point of playing!

Is there no hidden explanation to your theories Shad

 

[GrySun]

I'm voting early because i really don't feel like talking right now, please don't hurt my feelings in the next 1h.

But I agree on a shobu lynch, I think it a fair one.
I also don't want to be remembered as the guy who just leaves :/

@votekill shobu

Ty you all for laughing at my jokes even the not intentional one, it means a lot to me.

Have fun, that the whole point of playing!

I‘ll be sleeping soon, wanna tell what the Shadis thing from D2 was about? Or at least your suspect list and player thoughts for us to read next day if you have time.

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bel cinera holt...yeah i get that
but do you believe that there is no scum in you 4 dets? i mean with lamb it would ve been 5 from the get go. doesnt sit right with me

Not sure, I‘d have said it‘s Erin but with her being blocked like me it makes her look a bit better. Cinera should die before DD for same reasons as Nii for me. Heaven was also kinda strange and the only reason I trusted him was the missed action but may be meaningless in the end.

 

[digitaldude]

D2, so after Samuel died.

that does change things.

 

[GrySun]

Though if it‘s 2 naives/sanes + 2 paranoids/insanes, and we know Lambu was the latter, one of DD/Heaven would be scum. If it were that simple and symmetrical.