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Thank you Herms....

Thanks gry for asking....nephew you know how to look at who was online sometime before end of phase.
Could you plz look...could narrow down the possibilities.
 

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Cause to me it seems like an experienced player.take sam out before night....cant remember who he said he was going to maybe investigate....oh yeah ust was one and maz:lmao
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Also....@hosts
I couldn't vote Gry....he wasn't even in the list but pom was....why is that?
 

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The mechanic
So top voted is immune to the fukn polls????

Wow



lmao smh
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@GrySun
Any leads or just ignoring me?
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I did mention earlier though..Ust, Greg and now to a lesser degree Gry. Difficult for me to articulate why, it's more of a feel. DD is also extremely weird this game. I'm wary of Hill too
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It wouldn't? This is coming from Maz who has been away for a while. Honestly wouldn't write off anything. Also not sure why this reveal was important in any way at this time
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Wait what? Maz claims doc who targeted Erin who turned up dead and you're comfortable with him "protecting" you/Gry? Even if he were legit, how is this reasonable?

Then you say Real doc too? What even...??
Wanted to come back to this before you use it as a way of saying I ignored you xD

Funny you quote the three main people who was on Ust and was working together.

Maybe you didnt read rules as thorough as you should...and Im also at fault myself it seems of this.
But me and gry were immune to all priorities 1,2and 3
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Sorry hosts....i read it wrong you clearly say popularity posts....guess i assumed it meant lynch....my bad x/
 

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Thank you Herms....

Thanks gry for asking....nephew you know how to look at who was online sometime before end of phase.
Could you plz look...could narrow down the possibilities.
Don't think I know how to check back who was there, no. At best via who posted, but I'd assume the Assassin would be sneaky about it and not even post.

And most likely just make their forum status invisible, so don't think we'll find him like that.
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Any leads or just ignoring me?
Not always here, cmon Greg.

My last thoughts were voting along the lines of Tatsumaki or Holt, so with Tatsumaki claiming Det(interesting), and somewhat trusting a Necromancer being in the game, and trusting Asako and Marm...

I'd prolly vote Holt for now, though it's past 2 am and I'll be going to sleep now. Lots of hours left. I'll try to make a better case tomorrow, provided I'm not assassinated before.

Pretty disgusting play to daykill like at the very end of the day. It's pretty stupid that this is even possible, at that point it's not a daykill anymore but a priority 0 nightkill. It's BS of the highest order.

Agree it gotta be someone experienced, and to shamelessly post the daykill PM to the hosts a minute before day end. Holt and Ust are possibilities, but Ust can't be voted and could be a legit Det, while we know nothing about Holt.

For now, try to think which of the players you think would wait til end of phase to do a daykill, it takes a certain amount of shamelessness to do that a la shinobi.
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Gajeel and Hll aren't active enough to pull the stunt so they're at least not the Assassin. Hll particularly feels like he'd be a normal townie after we saw what happened to Shad. But there is the SS to consider as well, so anyone anti-mafia/pro-town may also just be the SS.
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Current player thoughts til I come back in 8 hours or so.

MarmaladeSky as Eichihiro Oda - Town? Going by Ust's results she should be clear regardless if he's mafia or town, but not a clear cut case.
Mazino as Takehiko Inoue - Doctor. What bothers me is that he targeted Erin N1, but she died. Naive Doctor, or a Insane Doctor? Neither are particularly good for town, but then again with Assassin not much that can be protected. I believe him to be Doctor for now.
Demonspeed as Yoshihiro Togashi - Not sure what to think about Demon, but weirdly enough this game I haven't had any bad feelings about him, his thoughts sound reasonable and town-ish.
Ustegius as Paru Itagaki - Repeating about him would be me beating a dead horse, but I am willing to believe that I'm Insane or Paranoid. Mafia should be killing us Dets soon regardless so we'll see who they kill first/last. Dets a tough role to leave alive for framing purposes, unless it's a Det with a useless sanity.
gnut as Akira Toriyama - Don't recall if a role was claimed, probably not. But I trust gnut the most regardless, just sounds very much like his town self.
Hll as Boichi - Another roleless townie like Shad, I can believe it. Just wish he was more... present, and helping us figure things out. There is also the angle of him being a Death Miller/Sleeper, so not something to forget.
Tatsumaki as ONE - Like Ust, Det claims should be let aside for now, for mafia to deal with.
Asako as Ichikawa Haruko - Sounds like usual town Asako, the things she says make sense too. Also somewhat covered by Ust's results like Marm.
Gajeel as Tatsuki Fujimoto - He does say reasonable things but not the usual decisive Gajeel. Instead of making the brandish vs Ust choice yesterday he votes DD, that's what I remember about him the most.
Holt as Tite Kubo - Holt are you there? Blink twice if you need assistance.
digitaldude as Hideki Sorachi - Necro claim I can believe, but he's playing a bit odd.

If I were to make my educated guesses:

Shapeshifter, most likely candidate: Holt? Just because of how detached he is, couldn't really pinpoint him as a guy in a team.

Mafia: Ustegius, Gajeel, Marmalade?

I feel like I'm still missing a lot of the bigger picture because even naming 3 mafias was tricky as I trust most. Ust could be real Det which throws many things in the water. Could also be that Holt is mafia and someone sneaky like Marm the Shapeshifter.

For now I will !votekill Holt and head off, plenty of time to decide. @anyone reading this, you could also leave your player thoughts in a similar fashion for readability and accountability purposes.
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Also regarding Mazino, forgot to mention but what happened to mafia's N1 kill? If they targetted Erin just like Mazino did, or did they fail somewhere else?
 

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Shapeshifter, most likely candidate: Holt? Just because of how detached he is, couldn't really pinpoint him as a guy in a team.
Would Holt try to kill you Night 1? I was half-joking back then, but I really think you were targetted by the SS the first night and pom saved you, so I doubt it would be a new/coming back player like Tatsumaki, HII, or Mazino. Do you have any non-official treaty with any player about not killing each other night 1 (doesn't seem to be the case lmao, but we never know). It could maybe help us maybe trim down the number of suspects.


Also, about the mechanics. If I got it right, GrySun and Ustegius won't be able to join the poll ever again? So each time someone gets first, they get a one phase immunity and then au revoir? Hmmm
 

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Vote kill HII. Probably the safest lynch this DP.

Would Holt try to kill you Night 1? I was half-joking back then, but I really think you were targetted by the SS the first night and pom saved you, so I doubt it would be a new/coming back player like Tatsumaki, HII, or Mazino. Do you have any non-official treaty with any player about not killing each other night 1 (doesn't seem to be the case lmao, but we never know). It could maybe help us maybe trim down the number of suspects.


Also, about the mechanics. If I got it right, GrySun and Ustegius won't be able to join the poll ever again? So each time someone gets first, they get a one phase immunity and then au revoir? Hmmm
I think Gry will be eligible again next phase, while Ust won't and so on.
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Can Gry really be trusted? Now that I think about it again, why even reveal that you are Det? You claimed after Tatsumaki too. You know there is an Assassin and we all know what you think of it.

Even though you revealed your main role and your results, you won't talk about Bran's gift to you? Why? Can't be more important than Det and Assassin can kill even BP.
 

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Honestly I don't believe there 3 dets, too much when we also have spy
It's too small of a game for us to have 3 dets
 

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Right now I am 99.99% sure that Ust is Mafia. Strange behavior and picks. But despite this he got the most votes after his claim. Mafia also didn't kill him last night but he hasn't been blocked either.

Moreover, the only one almost confirmed, Sam got killed last DP and he said he would go for him. I am not saying that killing Sam was a bad choice, but questionable picks aside, everything went well for Ust so far. That's odd.

I also don't like how some of my biggest suspects voted. Mafia made sure to get one of them invincible for this phase. It's obvious.
 

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N1 Demonspeed
N2 Holt
both innocent , which is why I think I'm either Insane or Naive.
Please do then.
That would be great since it could help confirm Ustegius sanity I think.
Oh, this is useful I think. Should I re-check some of Tatsus picks, or should I focus on covering more ground by checking new peeps?

Ustegius was guilty on N1 result, but got nothing from Pompom N2 as she was an Illusion. I thought with how Ust was naming Pom among his distrusted people, it‘s be unlikely for them both to be mafia, if I‘m sane.
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Tho with how both Ust and Tatsumaki seem to claim Sane/Naive Det it‘s possible I‘m Insane one. Interesting situation regardless.
Well, mafia would obviously say this as well, but yeh, you are either insane or paranoid.

Well...after reading up.
Im still not trusting Ust....the fact he came out yesterday and is still alive let alone top voted....protected like fuck by mafia.
Cause why in the hell would he and the alive doc get so many votes(if legit)....got to be a majority of scums in there?
Because mafia used they kill on the assassinations. Also, you are not being consistent. Yesterday you used your high ranking as a sign a trust, making you unlikely mafia. Now, when I get a lot of votes, it's suspicious. Or are you admitting I was right, and that the poll is completely manipulatable?

Honestly I don't believe there 3 dets, too much when we also have spy
It's too small of a game for us to have 3 dets
I'm not so sure about that. With Mafia, Santa, and Shapeshifter, the town is gonna need some real power too to stand a chance. Plus it's likely that there are mixed sanities, making a bit difficult early game.

Right now I am 99.99% sure that Ust is Mafia. Strange behavior and picks. But despite this he got the most votes after his claim. Mafia also didn't kill him last night but he hasn't been blocked either.

Moreover, the only one almost confirmed, Sam got killed last DP and he said he would go for him. I am not saying that killing Sam was a bad choice, but questionable picks aside, everything went well for Ust so far. That's odd.

I also don't like how some of my biggest suspects voted. Mafia made sure to get one of them invincible for this phase. It's obvious.
Well, mafia did use their kill for a day kill, so I'm (and Maz) save probably just because of that. Since it was like 99% sure Samuel was sane, it made sense a lot for the mafia to kill him quick - at that point for them I could have been naive or insane, which could be their advantage. Maybe they don't have an escort to block me? Assasin is already such an strong role, so I think it is quite plausible they don't have one.
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My personal quick round-up:

MarmaladeSky -
I trust my investigation even more now that I know Gry is Insane (or Paranoid). So totally save.
Mazino - Doctor claim. I have now reason to doubt it for now.
Demonspeed - No role claim yet? Obviously from my point a bit suspicious, because he is after me for reasons that don't work rules-wise.
gnut - I'm still not sure why people trust him so much. I think I'm missing something. His reasonings don't really make sense either. Also he ignored some of my questions to him.
Hll - Totally uncontributing. Very bad play end of yesterday.
Tatsumaki - Det claim. If true, then naive or sane, depending on what my sanioty is. In this setup, I don't think 3 dets is necessarily overkill.
Asako- I'll keep presuming I'm safe
Gajeel - No claims yet? I'm quite neutral about him, leaning to trust.
GrySun - Insane or Paranoid Detective for sure.
Holt - Quite elusive this far. I'm neutral.
digitaldude - Necromancer claim. I trust this, as this seems quite strange setup. I also liked his line of thinking previous day. People say he is playing different, but I don't see it. It's been almost a decade though since I last played with him.
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So no claims: Marms, Demon, gnut, hll, Asako, Gajeel, Holt. I'll leave Marms and Asako out presuming I'm sane, just to narrow it down.

I'm thinkin that among no claims there is likely mafia, because making a fake claim would have really needed some quick-feet here, and none of the claims this far seems flimsy. (It's plausible though, that there is a false claim, rendering my following thoughts less meaningful, but I have to start somewhere).

I presume with this setup 2-3 mafia and Shapeshifter. 3-4 scums left then. Demon, gnut, hll, Gajeel, Holt. So lynching anyone of them wouldn't necessarily be bad.

I'll leave out gnut, because I feel like I'm missing something that makes other players know he is safe. So I'll likely vote either Demon, hll, Gajeel or Holt. Gajeel seems least sus of the bunch, so now leaning to Demon, Holt, hll.
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Strange behavior and picks. But despite this he got the most votes after his claim.
Would you like to elaborate? Who would you have investigated? Other then me of course.
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Shapeshifter still breaks me. I just don't get it.
 

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HII, DD and Holt were good targets.

SS kills someone, but the victim doesn't know unless another player interacts with it. It's pretty much "Omae wa mou shindeiru" like Pom said.

The victim aka Illusion can post its thoughts next day and stuff if no one but the SS interacted with it but its votes don't really matter. Same for its old role.
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Don't see the point of revealing today. Maybe if you weren't at the top I would have done it.
 

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HII, DD and Holt were good targets.
You mean on Night 2? So checking Marms on N1 was okay from your pov? Well, I trust DD somewhat, because his Santa-approach was sensible unlike many others. In hindsight, hll would have been better. Maybe even Holt, but honestly, Asako hasn't been that informative either.

But this is really geting to me - basicly people are saying that I am mafia because I play badly. And since I'm not, people are just essentially telling me I suck a second day in a row.
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:dumpster
 

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I don't trust Marm at all so yeah I think it was a good pick. Not like anything could be a bad choice N1 anyway :XD.

I think Asako is Town, I might trust her even more than Greg.

I want to trust Gry, but that reveal is very strange especially for the leader of the "Assassin is too strong" proganda.
 

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Well, since I trust myself, all those options are save from my point. So from a counterpoint I do understand why I'm under your radar, by process of of elimination being different.

But yeah, since hll and Holt are so... absent, I'm likely to vote either one and investigate the other next night. Thoug Demon would fit my Rule of 3, as he did rise to the top 3 most active players.
 

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Yeah it’s hard to figure them out like this indeed.
Perhaps @Holt and @Hll feel like sharing their thoughts on the current happenings during this dayphase? :3

About to go to work by the way, but I’ll be there some hours before the end of this phase + during my break.
 

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Sigh...I have already mentioned what my role is, there is no point reiterating this any longer.

The people who have not revealed their roles so far are much more suspicious.

Frankly, the claim of three detectives sounds very strange, and all of them are naive or paranoid. I think one of them is lying about their role.

I see that Ust has given his results and claims that they are either naive or paranoid.

Have Tatsumaki or Grysun revealed the results of the actions they have taken so far.
 

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Sigh...I have already mentioned what my role is, there is no point reiterating this any longer.

The people who have not revealed their roles so far are much more suspicious.

Frankly, the claim of three detectives sounds very strange, and all of them are naive or paranoid. I think one of them is lying about their role.

I see that Ust has given his results and claims that they are either naive or paranoid.

Have Tatsumaki or Grysun revealed the results of the actions they have taken so far.
From what I see, people aren‘t calling you out because of your role but playstyle. One could claim any role, but if they play shady they‘ll be distrusted.
Can you start by making a list of all players and your thoughts on them? To help solve things it‘s crucial to have everyone‘s thoughts out in the open. Other than the 3 Det situation, anyone you noticed has been voting weirdly? Both in night poll or at day? Anyone here that you trust and think are town? Things like that.

And yes we have revealed our targets and results, nothing of value yet unfortunately.
 

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can agree with most gry said in his recap.

gry stays most trustworthy for me, his reveal imo was important and good timed.
ust reasoning on day 2 and his reveal made him seem fine
tatsu is a lil suspicious, but only cuz i think 3 dets plus a spy are a lil too much
marma and asako seem fine
DD plays imo the way he always plays so nth suspicious for me there, also the claim seems legit
gnut i dont understand, but that is also how it has always been
demon gives me nothing
with gajeel i just had a positive gut feeling, have to look up his previous roles since he said he has a new one
HII as townie ...hmm too inactive but playing plain townie isnt the most fun
Holt definetely has to step up his game

right now im torn apart by holt and tatsu



Sigh...I have already mentioned what my role is, there is no point reiterating this any longer.

The people who have not revealed their roles so far are much more suspicious.

Frankly, the claim of three detectives sounds very strange, and all of them are naive or paranoid. I think one of them is lying about their role.

I see that Ust has given his results and claims that they are either naive or paranoid.

Have Tatsumaki or Grysun revealed the results of the actions they have taken so far.
i agree, i find 3 dets strange too, especially cuz we also had a spy

ust claims sane if im not wrong
gry probably insane
tatsu could be naive or sane

of these 3 tbh i trust tatsu the least and gry the most.


you claimed plain townie right?
 
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