Discussion Magellan Discussion Thread

[Akainu]

How about Shiryuu and Magellan fighting? I'd like that better under certain circumstances than Luffy repeating his fight without really having a chance or Luffy fighting a swordsman - seriously, that's not his fight. that rather screams for Buggy being the hero of the day perhaps together with mr.1 and someone else taking on Magellan, llike... dunno... do whalesharks have a higher poison tolerance? then it should be Jimbei or one of the prisoners that got introduced with Shiryuu. I mean ... why bother mention them when they are going to rot in the eternal hell? hopefully not just for movie 10 <.<'

 

[Akagami.Shanks]

I think the answer is the use of Haki! I believe this is the arc where Luffy would learn how to use it, and Magellan will be the first victim. But seeing how Oda has done things, there might be some twists in the story!

 

[knivez]

I dont think magelan will be the bad guy in this arc. He just does his job and to me doesnt seem like a bad person.

 

[Phase]

Re: Magellan's Kitchen

That seems to be the only kitchen for the entire floor, so I would assume that Magellan only eats a small portion of the food that comes out of there.

 

[Gecko Moria]

I wonder why Magellan likes eating poisonous foods? Does it boost the power of his Devil Fruit attacks? Or maybe he just likes eating it so he can get diarrhea and get off work :P

 

[kkck]

^I think it is just to show off.... I doubt just because you become a man with a power you need to eat something akin to that power. We don't see luffy eating rubber, mr 1 eating blades, croco eating sand, and so on....

 

[Kaiser Will]

^I think it is just to show off.... I doubt just because you become a man with a power you need to eat something akin to that power. We don't see luffy eating rubber, mr 1 eating blades, croco eating sand, and so on....

Magellan is a stupid guy, that's it. Just in OP a villan would be that dump. Thought he is very strong, he manage to beat Luffy in a fight, and even make him unable to do something to counter attack.

But that's not the point, what I want to say that now that Luffy overcame the poison with his own immune system and manage to heal himself from the poison, now Luffy will be immune to Magellan poison?

Tell what do you think?

 

[Phase]

i think it depends on the type of the poison

poison of black widow for example, i think it's you get bitten once then you can be cured with substance made of black widow poison (or the poison itself not sure) but if you are bitten twice you cannot be cured the second time

This is true, I never thought I'd remember something from Biology class. Some people choose to live through the incredible agony instead of taking the cure for that reason. Being bitten by a black widow doesn't kill you (usually), so dealing with the incredible pain for a day(?) and not taking the cure is a sort of insurance. I'm not sure what the fate of someone who's taken the cure and been bitten a second time would be though.

 

[Akainu]

could you perhaps link to a source? because from what I read on wikipedia these venoms are hardly deadly anyway

 

[Phase]

could you perhaps link to a source? because from what I read on wikipedia these venoms are hardly deadly anyway

If I could remember the name of the video I watched 13 years ago, I'd be happy to. This is all off of memory. The venoms aren't deadly, you're right about that. It can kill someone who's already weak though, like an elderly person with a bad heart or something. The price of getting bitten by a black widow is extraordinary pain. I remember watching video of people who were bitten, every muscle in their body cramps up and spasms, it's rediculous.

Anyway, the video very clearly stated that the antidote will only work once, and it is made from black widow venom. I guess it's possible that they said the antidote is so rare that they'll only be willing to give it to you once, but I doubt it.

 

[Kaiser Will]

That's what I learn in my biology classes.

Poison of the black widow can kill someone, because as you say it attack the muscles, and the heart being a muscle you can have a heart attack.

Now about the cure, our body have same ways to defende ourselves:

1) Is when you receive the anti-bodies, from an external source, ready to attack the enemy that makes you sick. Usually horses are used to produce this antibodies, and the poison is really used in this case, the scientists inject the animal with the poison and the animal immune system produce the anti bodies, after the antibodies are extracted from the animal and used to cure persons!

2) Is when your own body make the anti-bodies and attack the enemy.

Note that when your body defense system makes the anti-bodies it kinda get stored in a memory, so when you get attacked again your system will be more efficient (an exemple of this are the vaccines that inject a half dead virus to make your body gain resistence from that specific virus).
But when you received all the anti-bodies from an antidote, if you get poisoned again you problably will have to take the antidote again.

Now about Luffy, since his own body makes the anti-bodies I think there's a probability of Luffy don't be affected by Magellan poison again.

I hope that I'm wrong, honestly, because I wanna see the haki thing being used properly!

 

[Dice]

He might be immune to some types, or at least he will have more resistance but I do hope he isn't totally immune against everything Maggelan has.

On the antidote-thing: I searched the www but coudln't find something like "you can only use it once". While Kaiser Will's explanation sounds quite good (though I got to say that if you took the antidote you are not forced to take it again next time, it will just be like your body is poisoned for the first time) I found something else.
Taking the antidote bares several risks. Allergic reaction for example. Due to those risks you only take the antidote if really needed and you should consulte your doc for this.

 

[kkck]

I wonder if brook is inherently immune to Magellans power. Technically brook doesn't have blood or organs to be damaged by the poison, so there is a posibility that he would be magellans natural enemy. On the other hand, brook has shown to be able to perform bodily functions such as eating, farting, burping.... So which one is it?

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

I wonder if brook is inherently immune to Magellans power. Technically brook doesn't have blood or organs to be damaged by the poison, so there is a posibility that he would be magellans natural enemy. On the other hand, brook has shown to be able to perform bodily functions such as eating, farting, burping.... So which one is it?

Even if it works, you cannot call him a natural enemy : this is not a natural thing he earned from his DF.
If you remember what is his DF, you will know that the state that would allow him to be immuned is linked to the fact he did not manage to find his body quickly but after many years. If he had managed, he would have his normal body and would definitely not be immuned.

So, it is not a natural immunity he got/could have got thanks to his DF.

 

[kkck]

Even if it works, you cannot call him a natural enemy : this is not a natural thing he earned from his DF.
If you remember what is his DF, you will know that the state that would allow him to be immuned is linked to the fact he did not manage to find his body quickly but after many years. If he had managed, he would have his normal body and would definitely not be immuned.

So, it is not a natural immunity he got/could have got thanks to his DF.

What difference does it make? If my theory is correct(kinda of a longshot anyways) brook would be overall immune to magellans poison due to a lack of a bloodstream and organs. Whether this immunity is not a direct effect of the fruit he ate is of no consequence whatsoever. Note that I didn't say "brooks fruit turns him into magellans natural enemy" but "brook would be magellans natural enemy".

 

[Phase]

Hmm, Magellan's poison can melt rock, so I think it can probably melt bone too.

 

[Kaiser Will]

I wonder if brook is inherently immune to Magellans power. Technically brook doesn't have blood or organs to be damaged by the poison, so there is a posibility that he would be magellans natural enemy. On the other hand, brook has shown to be able to perform bodily functions such as eating, farting, burping.... So which one is it?

Yeah that would be awesome if possible.
But bones do have a organic system, it's where the body produces anti-bodies, so for me he would be affected by the poison, thought in the case of Brook we don't know if he has anything inside his bones, so it's hard to say.

 

[RichardMNixon]

Yeah that would be awesome if possible.
But bones do have a organic system, it's where the body produces anti-bodies, so for me he would be affected by the poison, thought in the case of Brook we don't know if he has anything inside his bones, so it's hard to say.

You mean the marrow? It makes blood cells, but Brook has no blood (Yohohoho!). It could be a interesting way to solve the Magellan problem.

 

[kkck]

Hmm, Magellan's poison can melt rock, so I think it can probably melt bone too.

Yeah that would be awesome if possible.
But bones do have a organic system, it's where the body produces anti-bodies, so for me he would be affected by the poison, thought in the case of Brook we don't know if he has anything inside his bones, so it's hard to say.

Those are reasons why I said it was kinda of a long shot. The problem with brook is that how his body works is something extremely ambiguous and changes for the sake of comedy. We know brook can poop, burp, fart, eat despite the fact that he does not have organs that would allow him such a thing. We know brook can heal by drinking milk, which makes no sense whatsoever. We know brook is capable of reasoning despite the fact that he does not have a brain and his head is literally hollow. Hell, brooks nose was shown bleeding when he was told mermaids didn't have panties.... If we assume brook can function 100% normally, then he is certainly vulnerable to magellas poison, on the other hand if we assume he works as the sack of bones he is, he should have resistance against at least non-corrosive poisons. I hope brook is someday poisoned to see what happens....

 

[beastboy]

well, if brooke vs megellan = kulillin vs bacteria, example, megellan used that lacrimogenic(??? How do I say it in english, the one that cause tears) gas on brooke:
brooke: I can't see, is affecting my eyes! But I don't have eyes yohohohoho!

Megellan is at special vice admiral strengs, almost as strong as garp!