Question Mago vs Aubrion

[PlotArmouredTitan]

trying to downplay shinsus contribution is really wired because the shinsu x light attack clearly dwarfs all other light only attacks we have seen from Urek so far.

 

[Demonspeed]

Also, when Aubryon transformed, he had no visible injuries from Urek's PoL attacks.

 

[Sky is blue]

Mago. Simply because of her hax.

I think it will be made clear in upcoming edhan's fight with urek

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

If hax is all it takes you might as well pick Mago winning over Urek too

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Well there's more to than the eye meets for Mago. She hasn't even transformed like Obrion did. Need to see if Obrion can even counter Hope but maybe there's a chance counters don't work on fellow jewels, just a theory tho

 

[Demonspeed]

Mago. Simply because of her hax.

I think it will be made clear in upcoming edhan's fight with urek

How is she supposed to win even if Aubryon has no means to counter Reversal? He knows how it works, has countless servants and much higher stats.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Well there's more to than the eye meets for Mago. She hasn't even transformed like Obrion did.

The poll is about Mago as at when she fought Eduan, not at when she was at full power.

All of what we saw from her were light based abilities she had before getting defeated by phanta

If Mago has such transformation then she would have been unable to use it because she hadnt recovered enough of her post-phanta powers.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

The poll is about Mago as at when she fought Eduan, not at when she was at full power.

All of what we saw from her were light based abilities she had before getting defeated by phanta

If Mago has such transformation then she would have been unable to use it because she hadnt recovered enough of her post-phanta powers.

Well the poll just said Mago or Obrion.

Counter isn't based on light.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Well the poll just said Mago or Obrion.

it was explained by MonsterBam in the description of the thread

This is mago as she was when fighting eduan. She can use the light powers she took from urek vs Aubrion as he was when he was fighting urek.

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Counter isn't based on light.

She could already use it long before her fight with Eduan

The only new abilities she showed after the boost from Urek were abilities that can only function with the presence of a light source.

The darkness transformation, if she has one, is unlikely to work because she hasnt recovered her power unlike Aubrion

 

[Sky is blue]

if Aubryon has no means to counter Reversal?

...? She wins if he has no way to counter her hax

He knows how it works, has countless servants and much higher stats.

Yeah he knows how it works, that doesn't mean he has a way to counter it.

Mago was awfully confused How edhan countered reversal, that shows she has never faced attacks like Edhan's before.

Hell even urek wasn't able to get through reversal from much weaker version of mago, he should also know how it works yet he wasn't able to counter her, why?

 

[Demonspeed]

...? She wins if he has no way to counter her hax




Yeah he knows how it works, that doesn't mean he has a way to counter it.

Mago was awfully confused How edhan countered reversal, that shows she has never faced attacks like Edhan's before.

Hell even urek wasn't able to get through reversal from much weaker version of mago, he should also know how it works yet he wasn't able to counter her, why?

How does she win? Eduan countered Reversal via Marlin Gigante which ignores his thoughts and by attacking her in GoL, which made him intangible until she ran out of juice. Mago doesn't have the strength needed to defeat Aubryon, she'll run out of energy and be killed at the end. Aubryon doesn't have to attack her directly too.

Mago was confused by Marlin Gigante, not the rest. She was clearly keeping up with Eduan and was only noticeably inferior in terms of speed.

 

[Sky is blue]

Mago doesn't have the strength needed to defeat Aubryon,

Idk how you can say that; She has attacks which could pierce easily edhan , she definitely can do the same to aubryon

she'll run out of energy and be killed at the end. Aubryon doesn't have to attack her directly too.

What makes you think aubryon will survive by the time she runs out of energy?

Not to say you are forgetting that even urek (the same urek that destroyed aubryon) had trouble with a much weaker version of mago

 

[Demonspeed]

Idk how you can say that; She has attacks which could pierce easily edhan , she definitely can do the same to aubryon



What makes you think aubryon will survive by the time she runs out of energy?

Not to say you are forgetting that even urek (the same urek that destroyed aubryon) had trouble with a much weaker version of mago

Are you doing this on purpose? Can you go reread Urek VS Aubryon and see the latter's feats? Aubryon took much more powerful attacks even in base and had no visible injuries from attacks he took after transforming. Even if you want to use the "Urek was actually weaker until he heard the truth" which is wrong, we see him and his Emperor tanking attacks after that from the focused Urek after that. Only SFOD finished him.

All these attacks are obviously much stronger than Mago's strongest attack whose source was the tiny amount of PoL that Urek gave her and that Eduan dodged even when he was intangible.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Not to say you are forgetting that even urek (the same urek that destroyed aubryon) had trouble with a much weaker version of mago

That version of Mago spent most of the fight floating away and the moment she opted to use reversal, she got punished with a counter attack from Urek.

Eudan would have struggled the same way if Mago chose to be evasive instead of underestimating him at first sight.

 

[Demonspeed]

That version of Mago spent most of the fight floating away and the moment she opted to use reversal, she got punished with a counter attack from Urek.

Eudan would have struggled the same way if Mago chose to be evasive instead of underestimating him at first sight.

I missed this part . How does it matter? Urek simply used more power against Aubryon.

Also, the "Urek wasn't fighting well" argument was used to downplay Aubryon's feats earlier in their fight but when it is against Mago it doesn't matter anymore?

 

[Shinwonryu]

This is mago as she was when fighting eduan. She can use the light powers she took from urek vs Aubrion as he was when he was fighting urek.

Who is stronger and who wins?

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Mago wins. She herself said she was at her strongest when she used 100% of Urek’s light, or at least thought as much, and Aubryon is subservient to Mago.

Mago also has better hax, but it might not he as important vs other Shinies.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Mago doesnt even have the fire power to defeat Aubrions Emperor. Nothing from Eduan or Mago can compare to the attack from Urek that shook the entire island yet the Emperor managed to shrug it off.

Theres no reality where tiny light Mago is producing the same output as the attack that destroyed Aubrion

 

[Demonspeed]

Let's ignore their feats before Urek's complete focus(even though we shouldn't).

Aubryon took one punch then immediately transformed after this. Urek is serious there, obviously everyone can say that his output is far superior to Mago's tiny amount.

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It probably means that he would have died from the next attack in base.

Then there is this:

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In base, Aubryon's fingers got broken by Urek, now he is parrying it.

He takes another punch after and Emperor is tagging Urek.

Urek then uses another powerful Light attack(clearly the strongest attack so far). Those who were complaining too much about the lack of environmental destruction couldn't complain about that.

What happens after this?

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Emperor didn't disappear. He is still alive! Wow! Even attacking Urek and parries to strikes from the latter before finally dying to Urek's Genki Dama.

How is Aubryon after this?

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Looks like he took some massive damage! Surely this guy wouldn't be able to resist Mago's attacks! I guess the vines would pierce him even. Same for Emperor!

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

People are really making judgement on vibes alone rather what went on in the chapter

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Just the reaction from these two who weren't even on the battleground says a lot

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Yet the Emperor took it like a champ and still kept fighting.

Mago stating that the Light is angry should easily tell anyone how much effort Urek put into that attack

 

[Strange]

Let's ignore their feats before Urek's complete focus(even though we shouldn't).

Aubryon took one punch then immediately transformed after this. Urek is serious there, obviously everyone can say that his output is far superior to Mago's tiny amount.

Spoiler

It probably means that he would have died from the next attack in base.

Then there is this:

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In base, Aubryon's fingers got broken by Urek, now he is parrying it.

He takes another punch after and Emperor is tagging Urek.

Urek then uses another powerful Light attack(clearly the strongest attack so far). Those who were complaining too much about the lack of environmental destruction couldn't complain about that.

What happens after this?

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Emperor didn't disappear. He is still alive! Wow! Even attacking Urek and parries to strikes from the latter before finally dying to Urek's Genki Dama.

How is Aubryon after this?

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Looks like he took some massive damage! Surely this guy wouldn't be able to resist Mago's attacks! I guess the vines would pierce him even. Same for Emperor!

There is no way you can convince anyone almost anything, The fans won't accept a thing and wait when eduan gets clapped what will be their reaction