Discussion Maschenny vs Baam

How does Baam vs Maschenny end?

  • They don't fight

  • Maschenny just tests Baam

  • They fight and Maschenny wins

  • They fight and Baam wins

  • The fight is inconclusive

  • Maschenny joins the harem

  • Maschenny calls Baam Daddy

  • Something else (reply in thread)


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Disclaimer
The entirety of this post is contingent on specific translations of a few lines in the Webtoon. I am aware of an alternative translation that has very different implications from the one I'm using.
I wrote another post that was based on that alternative translation. However, I currently believe that translation is flawed as multiple sources seem to agree with the translation I use in this post.
Nevertheless, I'll update that post with information from the latest chapters if I am given reason to believe that it is indeed more accurate.


Introduction: Curiosity
At the beginning of the Nest, Maschenny expressed curiosity about Baam's potential
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Translations courtesy of u/Pajaka:
I'm curious. Whether they will actually appear here.
And to see what that irregular boy is capable of doing when he comes here.
His power is feeble for now, but it is a fact that his existence will stir up a lot of things.
Or alternatively LINE:
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I wonder whether they'll really show up here?
What could that Irregular boy possibly do here?
He may not have much power yet, but he's clearly shaking things up.
Maschenny questions whether Baam and his allies would really challenge the Nest. She wants to see for herself — with her own eyes — what the Irregular boy is truly capable of. She comments that even though his power was still weak, his mere existence is already causing ripples throughout the Tower.


Anticipation
Afterwards, Maschenny indicated a desire to face Baam in combat:
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Translations courtesy of u/Pajaka:
Your anger will lead you to the battlefield.
And you'll come back to me as an even bigger tide, bigger than any I've seen before.
The bigger the tide, the better it feels when I crush it.
Or alternatively LINE:
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Rage will lead you to battle.
I want you to become a vast wave of anger like you've never seen before.
Because the stronger the wave, the more fun it is to destroy.
Maschenny declares that Baam will come to the Nest. She expresses the desire for Baam to become a massive wave of anger the likes of which the Tower has never seen before. This is all so that she can have her fun crushing him. She wants to stand in front of that massive tide and break it apart.


Interlude: Monologue on Baam's Growth
After the conclusion of the battle of the 1st Wall and Baam's miracle, we see Maschenny monologue about his growth during the battle:
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He seemed like a harmless little chick when he entered the Nest...
...But after letting him into the front yard...
...It turned out that he was a beast.
And then, Maschenny has an epiphany:
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But for some strange reason...
...Seeing him...
...Reminds me of my Father.
It should be noted that Maschenny herself has a long cherished ambition to fight Zahard:
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She died with a smile on the Hidden Floor, because she could realise this dream:
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Interlude: "Assisting Baam"
This places a very different spin on Maschenny's actions in Chapter 502. She had one of her subordinates release the Hybrider from its jail, giving Baam a direct path to Jinsung and hence her:
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She states that she thinks it'll be more fun if Baam reached her:
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Some people — myself included — interpreted this to mean that Maschenny was helping Baam out. However, that wasn't necessarily the case. She was only helping Baam to reach her as she wants to personally "crush" him. She wasn't necessarily acting under any altruistic goals, or simply because their interests aligned.


Foreshadowing
If Maschenny does indeed try to crush the raging wave that is Baam, then it appears as if the outcome of that confrontation has already been foreshadowed.
Near the end of the Last Station arc, during the New Era speech, the Narrator(?) told us that Maschenny would be devoured in the tidal wave of the New Era:
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And then the very next chapter reveals that the wave is in fact Baam:
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This is pretty notable, given that the vast wave she seeks to destroy is the same wave that the Narrator said would devour her.

Jinsung has also cautioned Maschenny not to overestimate herself as she knows nothing of the Ancient Beasts and even less about Baam. He went on to state that none of them know Baam's potential:
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Conclusions
Maschenny's impending confrontation with Baam seems to have been setup since the end of Season 2, and it seems to be one that she is predestined to lose.
I don't see Maschenny being defeated here (she has too many unresolved plot lines with the Zahard and Khun Families), but it does seem like sooner or later, she'll be swallowed up in the boundless tide that is Baam:
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She calls him daddy and asks for a spanking, of course.
 

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Baam gets wrecked but manages to survive while still I impressing Maschenny by damaging her with his shinsu skills.
 

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You know, I wondered about the purpose of the recent conflict between Aguero and the Mousy Girl. But now I see it: Aguero will be forced to use the rat to escape to Baams field in order to get away from her. He will arrive when the fight between Baam and White is settled and he will follow Baam for the rest of the map and thus follow him to rescue Jinsung.

Aguero probably knows Macheny since earlier. After all he is a close friend with Ran, and he in turn is close with Macheny. It could be that Aguero is too. If so then Aguero can negotiate a deal with Macheny, something that Macheny wants either way as she really want the show to go on. And the show for today will end if Baam dies. AAs presense there will give her the excuse she needs. Possibly that Baam will have to go in to the crystal and fetch something for her.
 

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Aguero probably knows Macheny since earlier. After all he is a close friend with Ran, and he in turn is close with Macheny. It could be that Aguero is too. If so then Aguero can negotiate a deal with Macheny, something that Macheny wants either way as she really want the show to go on. And the show for today will end if Baam dies. AAs presense there will give her the excuse she needs. Possibly that Baam will have to go in to the crystal and fetch something for her.
Considering current events I'm not so sure about Baam 'having' to do a damned thing, or being the least bit interested in deal making.
 

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You know, I wondered about the purpose of the recent conflict between Aguero and the Mousy Girl. But now I see it: Aguero will be forced to use the rat to escape to Baams field in order to get away from her. He will arrive when the fight between Baam and White is settled and he will follow Baam for the rest of the map and thus follow him to rescue Jinsung.

Aguero probably knows Macheny since earlier. After all he is a close friend with Ran, and he in turn is close with Macheny. It could be that Aguero is too. If so then Aguero can negotiate a deal with Macheny, something that Macheny wants either way as she really want the show to go on. And the show for today will end if Baam dies. AAs presense there will give her the excuse she needs. Possibly that Baam will have to go in to the crystal and fetch something for her.
No, that's unlikely. Maschenny is 5,000+ years old like Adori. The only reason that Ran knows Maschenny is because he's her younger brother and she trained him. AA knowing Maschenny personally is really unlikely.

He freaked out when Shibisu reported that Shilial and Lilial were working together with Maschenny:
 

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I think she has something to give Baam or tell him or a request in exchange for Jinsung’s life.
I don’t see a fight happening unless a injured Jinsung joins him. I don’t remember Maschenny’s rank but I am assuming she is stronger than White.
She is also in cahoots with the guy who told Dowon and Cha about Baam’s coming to the tower. It happens at the of that wall of peaceful coexistence when the regulars escape. Maschenny has dialogue that made me think this.
 

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Considering current events I'm not so sure about Baam 'having' to do a damned thing, or being the least bit interested in deal making.
Baam wants Jinsung and Maschenny has Jinsung. He's going to have to play by her tune.

I don't think they'll strike a deal, but that's because I don't think Maschenny wants to make a deal with Baam.


Baam gets wrecked but manages to survive while still I impressing Maschenny by damaging her with his shinsu skills.
I would dig this outcome.


It happens at the of that wall of peaceful coexistence when the regulars escape. Maschenny has dialogue that made me think this.
Oh,
 

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it wasn’t Maschenny who said it but it was mentioned that only Maschenny knows where Jinsung is being kept. The Snake Guy says “the Captain” knows where Jinsung is. You see why I drew this line. I personally think the “the Captain” is the person that looks like Jahad in the flashback who told Cha & Dowon about Baam’s coming to the tower. My conclusion is they are in Cahoots or Maschenny is working alone, i don’t know remember why i thoughts she in cahoots with “the Captain” it’s been a while since reread the Manhwa.
 

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Season 3 Episode 48

it wasn’t Maschenny who said it but it was mentioned that only Maschenny knows where Jinsung is being kept. The Snake Guy says “the Captain” knows where Jinsung is. You see why I drew this line. I personally think the “the Captain” is the person that looks like Jahad in the flashback who told Cha & Dowon about Baam’s coming to the tower. My conclusion is they are in Cahoots or Maschenny is working alone, i don’t know remember why i thoughts she in cahoots with “the Captain” it’s been a while since reread the Manhwa.
Hmm, in LINE's translation, Maschenny says that only her and a few others know the information:


In Adios' TLs, she just calls it "very exclusive information":
Adios said:
Central thinks this very exclusive information will be leaked to the Irregular and cause him to come here. If so, the real plan would be to bring all forces that are allied with the Irregular together, and to kill them at once.
 

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Season 3 Episode 48

it wasn’t Maschenny who said it but it was mentioned that only Maschenny knows where Jinsung is being kept. The Snake Guy says “the Captain” knows where Jinsung is. You see why I drew this line. I personally think the “the Captain” is the person that looks like Jahad in the flashback who told Cha & Dowon about Baam’s coming to the tower. My conclusion is they are in Cahoots or Maschenny is working alone, i don’t know remember why i thoughts she in cahoots with “the Captain” it’s been a while since reread the Manhwa.
Hmm, seems like one and the same AND something Luslec would be behind/know about.

It's almost like the 'Captain' is an alias for Luslec...

Shilial and Lilial
The way things have been going with recent characters, and in particular the LPBF, I wouldn't be surprised if the twins were not artificial creations.
 

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The way things have been going with recent characters, and in particular the LPBF, I wouldn't be surprised if the twins were not artificial creations.
Is the "not" intentional?
 

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Is the "not" intentional?
Too much typing on the mobile, but I think you know what I meant. I think there's a good chance they might too end up being artificial.
 

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I think she has something to give Baam or tell him or a request in exchange for Jinsung’s life.
I don’t see a fight happening unless a injured Jinsung joins him.
After reading 511’s translation it seems i was right.
 
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