Fantasy Mirajane Strauss vs. Enhanced Neinhart

[Jko]

Bruh Natsu didn't blitz Neinhart, you could even see that he had to push back against the whirlwind in order to move forward.

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Neinhart didn't even know what hit him lol. He got blitzed twice easily by Base Natsu. Mira just does this with one palm strike.

 

[Boomburst]

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Neinhart didn't even know what hit him lol. He got blitzed twice easily by Base Natsu. Mira just does this with one palm strike.

You wanna know why Neinhart didn't even know what hit him? Because he was too busy standing there like an idiot laughing while Natsu came at him. And in the scan you can clearly see that the whirlwind was pushing Natsu back. Unless you're telling me that Natsu was able to blitz Neinhart faster than he could summon a Historia despite having to go against a freaking whirlwind, Neinhart is going to be able to summon a Historia before Mira gets to him and then its game over.

 

[Arjuna]

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Neinhart didn't even know what hit him lol. He got blitzed twice easily by Base Natsu. Mira just does this with one palm strike.

Even if Mira blitzs him how will she take her down?If you remember Brandish's magic didn't work on him as he become so strong.So not a single attack of Mira will do anything.Because i believe Brandish>Mira.

 

[Brandish μ]

I think what jko is trying to say is that if Natsu's physicality could endure Neinhart's attack, enough that he could push through at land hits, then Miralegria should be able to.

I agree to that.

Whether or not Miralegria can take him out is another thing. That depends on how strong you think the takeover is offensively, and Neinharts' endurance.

Brandish' magic not working is a condition of her magic, and not necessarily for anyone to physically rush Neinhart.

 

[Kiki]

Mirajane wins this. Lucy and Happy endured Neinhart's wind attack. Mirajane can do what Natsu did.

However,

• If it's confirmed that Neinhart is taken out in next chapter, I will lock in my choice that: Mirajane wins.
• If Neinhart still can stand up in next chapter, I will have to reconsider.

 

[Brandish μ]

For me I'd still be surprised if Mirajane can solo Historia Serena, Wahl and Bloodman... provided he can make them in a fight situation easily.

 

[Jko]

You wanna know why Neinhart didn't even know what hit him? Because he was too busy standing there like an idiot laughing while Natsu came at him. And in the scan you can clearly see that the whirlwind was pushing Natsu back. Unless you're telling me that Natsu was able to blitz Neinhart faster than he could summon a Historia despite having to go against a freaking whirlwind, Neinhart is going to be able to summon a Historia before Mira gets to him and then its game over.

He tried to hit Natsu but Natsu's hit landed first. Natsu blitzed him.

Even if Mira blitzs him how will she take her down?If you remember Brandish's magic didn't work on him as he become so strong.So not a single attack of Mira will do anything.Because i believe Brandish>Mira.

If he's oneshotted by Base Natsu then yeah he's getting oneshotted by Mira. Brandish could beat him if she actually tried. Just bcs Irene's enchantment made him immune to Brandish doesn't mean she couldn't just drop an Island on top of him and end it. It's not like he rendered Brandish magic useless lol. She was just surprised that Irene enhanced Neinhart that much.

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Mirajane wins this. Lucy and Happy endured Neinhart's wind attack. Mirajane can do what Natsu did.

However,

• If it's confirmed that Neinhart is taken out in next chapter, I will lock in my choice that: Mirajane wins.
• If Neinhart still can stand up in next chapter, I will have to reconsider.

Exactly

 

[Nemispelled]

Mirajane oneshots fodder Neinhart in her Takeover: Happy form.

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She then proceeds to whip the shit out of Spriggan 12x Fodder Neinhart.

(If there are any actual Neinhart fans out there, just pretend that I never said this, to avoid baiting)

 

[BluePegasus]

Well, I must say I haven't seen a versus thread before with so many different statements. Lol.

Anyway, saying Mirajane would "stomp" this is a bit over the top. People make it sound like Neinhart is outright fodder now because he was two shotted by Natsu. But just so you know, Neinhart was fighting both Minerva and Rogue at the same moment. You people seem to forget that Neinhart's magic power was highly restricted due to these two corpses.

Imo Neinhart takes this high diff. I can see Alegria Mirajane putting a good fight against three historia Spriggans, but in the time she can use it, which is not more than a minute, I can't see her taking down more than one. She can't defeat two historia Spriggans just with her basic Take-Overs, she is probably around the level of Minerva with Satan/Sitri Soul and we already saw how much trouble Minerva had with one historia Spriggan.

I'm excluding Seilah Soul in this because I can't see her having enough MP to activate her Etherious form after she uses Alegria Soul.

As for people who say Mirajane will blitz Neinhart, that's more like the impossible since Neinhart could create a barrier of wind around him which will decrease Mirajane's speed just like it did to Natsu.

 

[Arjuna]

He tried to hit Natsu but Natsu's hit landed first. Natsu blitzed him.

If he's oneshotted by Base Natsu then yeah he's getting oneshotted by Mira. Brandish could beat him if she actually tried. Just bcs Irene's enchantment made him immune to Brandish doesn't mean she couldn't just drop an Island on top of him and end it. It's not like he rendered Brandish magic useless lol. She was just surprised that Irene enhanced Neinhart that much.

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Exactly

In current arc just because Natsu can do it doesn't mean Mirajane can do it.Mira is on the level of Erza who couldn't defeat Ajeel.And Neinhart overpowered Brandish who is on the level of Ajeel.

 

[Jko]

In current arc just because Natsu can do it doesn't mean Mirajane can do it.Mira is on the level of Erza who couldn't defeat Ajeel.And Neinhart overpowered Brandish who is on the level of Ajeel.

Base Natsu did it, Mira Algeria can certainly do it too. Ajeel is far stronger than Neinhart. Neinhart didn't overpower Brandish, she literally just stood there while he attacked her.

 

[Arjuna]

Base Natsu did it, Mira Algeria can certainly do it too. Ajeel is far stronger than Neinhart. Neinhart didn't overpower Brandish, she literally just stood there while he attacked her.

Ajeel surely is stronger than Ninehart but not this enhanced version.The CR version you posted clearly says that as he became so powerful for Brandish to cast her her magic on Neinhart.So it is highly doubtful that Ajeel who is on the level of Brandish(as stated by Gray in chap 446) can do anything.So if Ajeel can't do anything so how can Mira who is on the level of Erza.

 

[Jko]

Ajeel surely is stronger than Ninehart but not this enhanced version.The CR version you posted clearly says that as he became so powerful for Brandish to cast her her magic on Neinhart.So it is highly doubtful that Ajeel who is on the level of Brandish(as stated by Gray in chap 446) can do anything.So if Ajeel can't do anything so how can Mira who is on the level of Erza.

She stated "how strong has Irene made him" bcs he was immune to her Mass Manipulation not once did she say he's stronger than her. Ajeel Sand World >>>>>>>>> Neinhart's whirlwind. Ajeel is much stronger adversary than Neinhart is and he's way harder to put down unlike Neinhart who gets oneshotted by Base Natsu. Ajeel actually no sold base Natsu hits.

• If Neinhart is truly down for the count next chapter then he's def getting oneshotted.
• If he isn't then I'll revise my statement.

Until then Mira is whooping his butt.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

I think after last chapter it is obvious who would win...

• Mirajane Strauss > Enhanced Neinhart

So far, Neinhart has not impressed me in the slightest. I used to say that his durability was unknown but now I can say with certainty that this guy is the weakest of the Spriggan 12.

The reason why I won't give this fight a difficulty rating is because there were so many unknown factors. First of all, it isn't confirmed whether Neinhart was actually defeated or not. Second of all, I have doubts about Natsu's attack. In my opinion, it looks like Fire Dragon King's Demolition Fist but because I have no proof of that, I cannot say for sure.

With that said, let me go back to Mirajane. When she used her Alegria Soul, she was able to take out Eileen's subordinates with ease. Considering Neinhart is the weakest Spriggan, I don't see Mirajane losing this. Before any one brings up the fact that he was enhanced, I just want to emphasize that his change in durability seems insignificant.

Also, I will not buy any counter-arguments regarding Mirajane's fight with Jacob. Not only was she used for fanservice (which is only a small part of the reason), but she was still in her base mode. Until she uses her Satan Soul or Alegria Soul, I will label the fight as inconclusive.

 

[Boomburst]

I think after last chapter it is obvious who would win...

• Mirajane Strauss > Enhanced Neinhart

So far, Neinhart has not impressed me in the slightest. I used to say that his durability was unknown but now I can say with certainty that this guy is the weakest of the Spriggan 12.

The reason why I won't give this fight a difficulty rating is because there were so many unknown factors. First of all, it isn't confirmed whether Neinhart was actually defeated or not. Second of all, I have doubts about Natsu's attack. In my opinion, it looks like Fire Dragon King's Demolition Fist but because I have no proof of that, I cannot say for sure.

With that said, let me go back to Mirajane. When she used her Alegria Soul, she was able to take out Eileen's subordinates with ease. Considering Neinhart is the weakest Spriggan, I don't see Mirajane losing this. Before any one brings up the fact that he was enhanced, I just want to emphasize that his change in durability seems insignificant.

Also, I will not buy any counter-arguments regarding Mirajane's fight with Jacob. Not only was she used for fanservice (which is only a small part of the reason), but she was still in her base mode. Until she uses her Satan Soul or Alegria Soul, I will label the fight as inconclusive.

Mirajane won't even get to fight Neinhart because she'd lose to his Historias. It's true that we don't know exactly how fast Neinhart can summon a Historia but I doubt it would be slow enough to the point that he wouldn't be able to use his magic in time in a 1 on 1.

 

[Kay3795]

The Spriggian guy fodderstomps... obviously. Why was this thread even created; spite?

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Mirajane won't even get to fight Neinhart because she'd lose to his Historias. It's true that we don't know exactly how fast Neinhart can summon a Historia but I doubt it would be slow enough to the point that he wouldn't be able to use his magic in time in a 1 on 1.

Under normal circumstances, I would agree. However, I still give this to Mirajane for a couple reasons.

Judging from Gildarts' words as well as Rogue and Minerva's performance, it seems that the Historias (God Serena, Wahl, and Bloodman) are extremely restricted in MP. And because Mirajane has proven to have high magical power, I think her Seilah Soul: Macro would work on them. What I mean is Mirajane could just make them "disappear" instead of making them go to "sleep".

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From there, Mirajane can just use her Alegria Soul and blitz Neinhart...

Anyways, as much as I hate to admit it, Neinhart is truly pathetic. If my memory serves me right, this is the first time in Fairy Tail where someone was one-shotted twice in a row. I wouldn't necessarily call him a fodder but to go up against Mirajane... I honestly believe he is unable to win this.

 

[Boomburst]

Under normal circumstances, I would agree. However, I still give this to Mirajane for a couple reasons.

Judging from Gildarts' words as well as Rogue and Minerva's performance, it seems that the Historias (God Serena, Wahl, and Bloodman) are extremely restricted in MP. And because Mirajane has proven to have high magical power, I think her Seilah Soul: Macro would work on them. What I mean is Mirajane could just make them "disappear" instead of making them go to "sleep".

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From there, Mirajane can just use her Alegria Soul and blitz Neinhart...

Anyways, as much as I hate to admit it, Neinhart is truly pathetic. If my memory serves me right, this is the first time in Fairy Tail where someone was one-shotted twice in a row. I wouldn't necessarily call him a fodder but to go up against Mirajane... I honestly believe he is unable to win this.

Yes but the reason why Bradman, Wahl, and God Serena's Historias were so weak to begin with was because Neinhart had to split his mp three ways. Taking this into consideration (which of course I'm not saying is 100% true but I think it's a reasonable explanation), if Neinhart focuses his mp on a single Historia then Mirajane isn't going to be able to use Macro and she's going to lose.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Yes but the reason why Bradman, Wahl, and God Serena's Historias were so weak to begin with was because Neinhart had to split his mp three ways. Taking this into consideration (which of course I'm not saying is 100% true but I think it's a reasonable explanation), if Neinhart focuses his mp on a single Historia then Mirajane isn't going to be able to use Macro and she's going to lose.

Even if Neinhart focuses his MP on one single Historia, I still don't see Mirajane losing this fight. Her Alegria Soul was able to take down both of Eileen's enchantments in an instant. She has the feats to take down Neinhart before he can create his Historias... At least that is how I see it. We'll know soon enough though. Right now, we still don't know what Neinhart's condition is like and how Mirajane will fare against Jacob.

I will be open to changing my stance on this fight, but as of right now, I'm sticking to my initial position.

 

[Kiki]

My considerations are:

• Mira is fresh here.
• The distance between Natsu and Neinhart was not miles away.
• Mira can transform super fastly (I read the chapter where Sayla Macro'd Erza + 4 Exceeds + ex Magic Council chief, Mira was running and blitzed her).
• Neinhart can only summon Azuma.

Cmiiw though. Still assume Neinhart isn't done yet.