Conditional Mirajane vs. Base Natsu

[Ramen]

Well, I'm not on this site much, I wouldn't know, you got the wrong one. I'm not tryna be funny, all I'm asking is a serious question. If anything she's more downplayed. People thought Gray would low to no diff her, Mashima/Ueda provided us a fight (off panel though, unfortunately, TUH!!!!) and he barely beat her. What more do y'all want?!

People said she's the strongest FT mage and her Macro might work on Mercphobia. That's not wank?

People aren't saying she's wanked because she gave Gray a tough fight. The consensus is she's stronger than him. But when peolpe say Mira>Natsu,Gildarts, Laxus,Erza then yea it's wank.

 

[Jam]

People said she's the strongest FT mage and her Macro might work on Mercphobia. That's not wank?

People aren't saying she's wanked because she gave Gray a tough fight. The consensus is she's stronger than him. But when peolpe say Mira>Natsu,Gildarts, Laxus,Erza then yea it's wank.

Maybe it is, maybe it's not, they could prolly be trollin', if they are serious, good grief. I don't actually say that. But what's so wrong about people thinking she's stronger than Gray or Erza?! Natsu, Gildarts, and Laxus I can understand, but Gray and Erza?! TUH!!!! I put them all (alongside Gajeel) in the same tier....

 

[Ramen]

Maybe it is, maybe it's not, they could prolly be trollin', if they are serious, good grief. I don't actually say that. But what's so wrong about people thinking she's stronger than Gray or Erza?! Natsu, Gildarts, and Laxus I can understand, but Gray and Erza?! TUH!!!! I put them all (alongside Gajeel) in the same tier....

But they are serious hence why I said look around.

Erza and Gray in the same tier? Erza is basically Laxus' equal given their last fight. Erza mid diffs Mira at most. Erza has better feats than all 3 of Gajeel,Mira and Gray.

 

[grey matter]

Maybe it is, maybe it's not, they could prolly be trollin', if they are serious, good grief. I don't actually say that. But what's so wrong about people thinking she's stronger than Gray or Erza?! Natsu, Gildarts, and Laxus I can understand, but Gray and Erza?! TUH!!!! I put them all (alongside Gajeel) in the same tier....

Erza upstaged Mira in every single arc, massively.
Erza is closer to Laxus than to Mira

Gray at his best (darkness power) is far above Mira too. But Mira is >= normal Gray

 

[Jam]

Erza upstaged Mira in every single arc, massively.
Erza is closer to Laxus than to Mira

Gray at his best (darkness power) is far above Mira too. But Mira is >= normal Gray

It took Gray to actually wait for Mira to tire herself out, and he still had to high diff her, c'mon now...

 

[grey matter]

It took Gray to actually wait for Mira to tire herself out, and he still had to high diff her, c'mon now...

Gray fought 2 v 1, lets not ignore Elfman here.
And it wasn't high diff Gray. It's a mid diff.

Anyway, Mira may well be above normal Gray as I said. Not sure what your problem is here

 

[Ramen]

Gray fought 2 v 1, lets not ignore Elfman here.
And it wasn't high diff Gray. It's a mid diff.

Anyway, Mira may well be above normal Gray as I said. Not sure what your problem is here

I think he was referring to your comment about Gray with his PoF against END (I refuse to call it Darkness lol). Some believe that BSS Mira is also above that version of Gray.

 

[grey matter]

I think he was referring to your comment about Gray with his PoF against END (I refuse to call it Darkness lol). Some believe that BSS Mira is also above that version of Gray.

Ohh, I see.

Mira, who burned all her MP against two grunts, is above darkness Gray apparently. lmfao. They've been quite for a while, I forgot how wanked Mira is

 

[kian]

Ohh, I see.

Mira, who burned all her MP against two grunts, is above darkness Gray apparently. lmfao. They've been quite for a while, I forgot how wanked Mira is

Can you explain to me what exactly ‘Darkness Gray’ is and why it’s so impressive?

 

[Ramen]

Can you explain to me what exactly ‘Darkness Gray’ is and why it’s so impressive?

It's the peak PoF version of Gray after he thought Juvia died. It's called "darkness" by some becuase Invel commented on how the DeS was blackening his heart and making him lose his mind.

That PoF boost gave Gray the power to beat Invel with ease using his bare fists with no DeS markings. However he did resort to a DeS Destruction Fist as the finisher. Some would say that's a better feat than fatigued Mira beating Jacob.

Those who overrate END also give Gray the feat of fighting on equal terms with END but if you ask me, a lot of characters could've replicated it.

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I don't see the problem in saying the only way Gray is stronger than Mira is at max PoF. That's a compliment for Mira if anything.

 

[Jko]

Nowhere was hinted Elf fought Gray. Gray got beat up by Mira from the text so Gray only had a high diff fight with Mira. Mira >>> Gray. Gray ~= Base Natsu just like Gajeel is. So I can see Mira beating Base Natsu with a mid diff at most depending on the form.

 

[Ramen]

Nowhere was hinted Elf fought Gray. Gray got beat up by Mira from the text so Gray only had a high diff fight with Mira. Mira >>> Gray. Gray ~= Base Natsu just like Gajeel is. So I can see Mira beating Base Natsu with a mid diff at most depending on the form.

Who else fought him? You can see Mira beating anyone foh.

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Gray got beat up by Mira

But won?

 

[Ronin31]

In my opinion, Mirajane is strong and versatile but not a top Fairy Tail's powerhouse anymore. The Aces, for me, are Gildarts, Erza and Laxus.

For now, she is nowhere close to the three S-Classes. Gray managed to beat her while she was teaming up with Elfman who has grown stronger. He's a tank, regardless to keep no damage on Lucy's mixdress attack, as Mirajane. They were exausted, agree, but 0.5 + 0.5 =1 and 2 targets are more difficult to fight.

In my opinion, Mirajane is still strong, I think she is now on Gajeel's tier. I think Natsu can take it in his classic form, with a better gap using FDK attacks.

I like Mirajane, but her kindness made her in sort of stasis while the others reduced the gap with her and then, bypassed her level. She has grown but not as proportional.

 

[Majio]

-Mirajane's best feat that is vaping a sea requiring her to use up all of MP for couple of secs...

-Natsu vapes an arena just by getting excited...

Lmao, Natsu beats her low diff

 

[Jko]

Natsu needed to go FDKM to vape a lake...A sea >>>> lake >>> GMG stadium. He also used fire magic and not just his magical power.

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Again Gray only won bcs she was weakened and in her weakest takeover. 2. He was never stated to have fought Elf nor that Elf was even a challenge in his weaker state. 3 Mira stalemated Skullion who oneshotted Gray in BSS. BSS Mira = Skullion >> DeS Gray. I don't think it can get any more clear that Mira is far stronger than Gray in just BSS. You would just have straight up ignore everything the author tells you to fit a narritive that Gray is stronger than Mira. But it's not really a surprise given the mentality on MH.

 

[Ramen]

^^This is Mira vs Natsu.....not Gray. Also BSS is not equal to Skullion.

 

[Jam]

Gray fought 2 v 1, lets not ignore Elfman here.
And it wasn't high diff Gray. It's a mid diff.

Anyway, Mira may well be above normal Gray as I said. Not sure what your problem is here

But Gray did, he wasn't even focused on Elfman. He clearly said she was injured to the point it was fine. Cana and Juvia said that he struggled to beat an injured opponent and that he gave it his all respectively, it was high diff, can you not comprehend?!

 

[Majio]

FDKM is Natsu's power so I don't see what's wrong.

Melting a multi-million ton structure built from stone and metal designed for mage fighting with power flex >>>>>>>>>>>> vaping a sea of unknown size requiring you to use your strongest form only for couple of sec

 

[Jko]

The point is FDKM is not BASE Natsu lol.

The sea was shown to expand over a hundred+ miles as the water was vaped passed the horizon.

Spoiler

Hundred+ miles water instantly vaporized >>> Melting a stadium lol. He also is using FIRE magic and not just MAGICAL POWER alone. She did that with the passive emission of her magical power. It's far more impressive that her magical power is so strong that it vaporizes a sea passively.

 

[Majio]

That's the anime depiction. How big is it in the manga? Also dude, that's not hundreds of miles, you meant hundreds of kilometres.

It still doesn't change the point anyway, since it literally required all of her power which left her exhausted afterwards and her MP vaping a sea doesn't translate to combat.