Fantasy Mirajane vs Kyria

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

So it was actually less than even 30 minutes when the DE attacked again lol.

Two hours. Madmorl literally says it.

 

[Jko]

Two hours. Madmorl literally says it.

He does?! Well that still not a lot lol.

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He does and I just went and did those calculations for nothing lol.

 

[Seven777]

Whole tour of the city? You mean his lighthouse? She defo wasn't tip top otherwise she would have transformed Wendy back instead needing Merc to do it. This was the same chapter they were talking to him and that only lasted a few minutes. The DE leave in chapter 8, and the DE comeback in chapter 9. Barely any time has laspe bcs the end of chapter 8's is picked back up at the end of chapter 9 which means they basically came back in the span of one chapter. So it was actually less than even 30 minutes when the DE attacked again lol.

It actualy wasn't dead center as they weren't even in the crater she made lol. The anime depicts them not getting hit by the actual attack but the backlash as well. Attack from Base DiMaria?

Sure, the lighthouse, the palace, the plantation, the clinic, the palace again and wherever else they went. Wendy was transformed by Merc before the tour, and even before that she could transformed Natsu back to normal and used Aqua Metria easily, one of her most impressive spells. So either Lucy forgot about Wendy because Erza and Gray just turned themselves back, or for some reason turning Wendy back is more exhausting than turning Natsu back, I'm personally going with the former, hard.
As for the chapter 8 to 9 thing. Chapter count doesn't equate to time passed in the FT world. An unhindered tour of the city is more than enough time to recover magic, especially when we've seen earlier that Lucy was already capable of switching Star Dresses and fighting without a hint of exhaustion.

So? The nuke eminated from Dimaria, they simply got blasted out of it. The anime depicts them getting nailed by the nuke, as does the manga. Base DImaria nuked them first, then Chronos nuked them again.

 

[Ebony Maw]

Feel like people are underestimating Kyria now.

Spoiler: New chapter spoilers

Did Kyria's hypnosis fail on Laxus? Yes but that was circumstantial. Unless Mira also sees herself as weak (and we have no reason to believe she does) then she's getting affected.

Even if that weren't the case Kyria's durability should still be enough to beat Mira.

Kyria was durable enough to take a beating from Laxus for about as long as it took Natsu to beat Wraith/Lucy to escape Mira + Elfman vs Skullion and Madmole, and Laxus only put her down with his Secret Art. As a quick reminder Ajeel would have almost been killed by a casual, nameless nuke, so Kyria taking that Secret Art and still being conscious is pretty impressive. As for her offence, she's fast enough to trade blows with Erza and she can cut through Magic.

I'm not saying Kyria wins this as easily as I thought she would before, but going down to a Secret Art from Laxus is nothing to be ashamed of. Of course the final result of this fight will depend on how Mira's doing against Skullion and Madmole, but for now I still have Kyria winning this.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Feel like people are underestimating Kyria now.

Spoiler: New chapter spoilers

Did Kyria's hypnosis fail on Laxus? Yes but that was circumstantial. Unless Mira also sees herself as weak (and we have no reason to believe she does) then she's getting affected.

Even if that weren't the case Kyria's durability should still be enough to beat Mira.

Kyria was durable enough to take a beating from Laxus for about as long as it took Natsu to beat Wraith/Lucy to escape Mira + Elfman vs Skullion and Madmole, and Laxus only put her down with his Secret Art. As a quick reminder Ajeel would have almost been killed by a casual, nameless nuke, so Kyria taking that Secret Art and still being conscious is pretty impressive. As for her offence, she's fast enough to trade blows with Erza and she can cut through Magic.

I'm not saying Kyria wins this as easily as I thought she would before, but going down to a Secret Art from Laxus is nothing to be ashamed of. Of course the final result of this fight will depend on how Mira's doing against Skullion and Madmole, but for now I still have Kyria winning this.

Kyria was literally destroyed for the second time around. No scratch to laxus.

As for Mira i dont think that she view herself strong enough. Since she was not able to saved Lisanna before her pseo death and she constantly asking for some help (laxus). Or else her macro will counter the hypnosis.

Laxus secret art was his spell in GMG arc
Not even his strongest.

If you want to use the off panel then Mirajane was durable enough to stand with Skullion and Madmole , who low diffed DeS Gray. While shes in her weakest form.

Kyria was also beaten by Empress flames armor.

 

[Ebony Maw]

Kyria was literally destroyed for the second time around. No scratch to laxus.

Laxus is Laxus, its not like Mira is winning any medals for durability.

As for Mira i dont think that she view herself strong enough. Since she was not able to saved Lisanna before her pseo death and she constantly asking for some help (laxus).

Could you link me to the 'constantly asking for help' part?

Also by this standard then Erza should have resisted it too, what with all her potential guilt over Simon and Acno almost killing her and Wendy.

Or else her macro will counter the hypnosis.

Why would Macro counter hypnosis? There's nothing I know of that even suggests that's possible.

Laxus secret art was his spell in GMG arc
Not even his strongest.

Secret Arts are basically always more powerful than a Slayer's other spells, with the fringe exception(s) being cases such as Sting.

So yeah, Kyria was taken down by Laxus' strongest spell.

If you want to use the off panel then Mirajane was durable enough to stand with Skullion and Madmole , who low diffed DeS Gray. While shes in her weakest form.

Skullion low-diffed Gray because of hax, not due to sheer physical and magical ability. He basically did no damage to him aside from the attack that Brandish saved him from.

Mira on the other hand looks roughed up. To be fair to her that could have been Madmole, but the last on-panel part of that fight we saw was Skullion getting a hit on her, so he could be abusing the intangibility. Either way, my point was more than Kyria endured attacks from Laxus for a decent amount of time.

And enduring Laxus >> enduring Skullion/Madmole (Laxus has far more attack potency).

Kyria was also beaten by Empress flames armor.

She was hit by it and took damage but she was ready to fight the second she hit the deck.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Laxus is Laxus, its not like Mira is winning any medals for durability.

Could you link me to the 'constantly asking for help' part?

Also by this standard then Erza should have resisted it too, what with all her potential guilt over Simon and Acno almost killing her and Wendy.

Why would Macro counter hypnosis? There's nothing I know of that even suggests that's possible.

Secret Arts are basically always more powerful than a Slayer's other spells, with the fringe exception(s) being cases such as Sting.

So yeah, Kyria was taken down by Laxus' strongest spell.

Skullion low-diffed Gray because of hax, not due to sheer physical and magical ability. He basically did no damage to him aside from the attack that Brandish saved him from.

Mira on the other hand looks roughed up. To be fair to her that could have been Madmole, but the last on-panel part of that fight we saw was Skullion getting a hit on her, so he could be abusing the intangibility. Either way, my point was more than Kyria endured attacks from Laxus for a decent amount of time.

And enduring Laxus >> enduring Skullion/Madmole (Laxus has far more attack potency).

She was hit by it and took damage but she was ready to fight the second she hit the deck.

Laxus strongest spell are Fairy law and Raikô: Red Lightning not the Slayer Art.

I really consider this as a bad writing, because out of no where laxus felt he was weak ( how i wish Mashima let Laxus overpower the hypnosis instead). At least Mirajane has history to feel that shes weak. because she was not strong enough to save his sister before and the reason why her personality and willing to fight drastically changed.

Then theres nothing to suggest that Kyria can resist macro? unless she has a demon superiority. Can you name one at least? She was not even portrayed with high MP. At least Mirajane has been portrayed as such. So in terms of MP Mirajane>>Kyria. (Satan Soul was able to manipulate the entire river and Alegria MP alone dried up the sea)

Like what i said her hypnosis will not work since it has 2 weaknesses. 1 is awareness and second if you feel your weak.

i dont even think if she can take the evil explosion or soul extinction (Unless shes intangible). Kyria couldnt even defend herself against the empress flames armor. Yes kyria is ready to fight but nothing would suggest she would do better against Erza. Look what happened when shes ready to fight laxus on the second time around she was badly beaten that it make her love laxus.

Yes Mirajane in her BSS form was not able to scratch Skullion but because of its intangibility. Is Laxus intangible? He even took Kyria's secret art without even defending it yet she failed to give him a scratch.

and among the two girls. Laxus seems to respects Mirajane strength more . In GMG arc Laxus went on to claim that Mirajane "is not someone you want to piss off." And Mirajane in her fight against kamika, it was hinted that she already fought laxus before. commenting that Kamika's lightning paper was nothing compared to Laxus Dreyar's attacks.

 

[LaGOAT]

Laxus is Laxus, its not like Mira is winning any medals for durability.

Could you link me to the 'constantly asking for help' part?

Also by this standard then Erza should have resisted it too, what with all her potential guilt over Simon and Acno almost killing her and Wendy.

Why would Macro counter hypnosis? There's nothing I know of that even suggests that's possible.

Secret Arts are basically always more powerful than a Slayer's other spells, with the fringe exception(s) being cases such as Sting.

Laxus strongest spell

Skullion low-diffed Gray because of hax, not due to sheer physical and magical ability. He basically did no damage to him aside from the attack that Brandish saved him from.

Mira on the other hand looks roughed up. To be fair to her that could have been Madmole, but the last on-panel part of that fight we saw was Skullion getting a hit on her, so he could be abusing the intangibility. Either way, my point was more than Kyria endured attacks from Laxus for a decent amount of time.

And enduring Laxus >> enduring Skullion/Madmole (Laxus has far more attack potency).

She was hit by it and took damage but she was ready to fight the second she hit the deck.

Laxus is Laxus, its not like Mira is winning any medals for durability.

Could you link me to the 'constantly asking for help' part?

Also by this standard then Erza should have resisted it too, what with all her potential guilt over Simon and Acno almost killing her and Wendy.

Why would Macro counter hypnosis? There's nothing I know of that even suggests that's possible.

Secret Arts are basically always more powerful than a Slayer's other spells, with the fringe exception(s) being cases such as Sting.

So yeah, Kyria was taken down by Laxus' strongest spell.

Skullion low-diffed Gray because of hax, not due to sheer physical and magical ability. He basically did no damage to him aside from the attack that Brandish saved him from.

Mira on the other hand looks roughed up. To be fair to her that could have been Madmole, but the last on-panel part of that fight we saw was Skullion getting a hit on her, so he could be abusing the intangibility. Either way, my point was more than Kyria endured attacks from Laxus for a decent amount of time.

And enduring Laxus >> enduring Skullion/Madmole (Laxus has far more attack potency).

She was hit by it and took damage but she was ready to fight the second she hit the deck.

laxus strongest spell Nice one

 

[Ebony Maw]

Laxus strongest spell are Fairy law and Raikô: Red Lightning not the Slayer Art.

Fair enough on Fairy Law, I forgot he had it tbh.

That said, why is Red Lightning better than his Secret Art? The only reason it looks so impressive is because it actually affected Wahl. And this was because Wahl's Weakness Magic couldn't analyse it in time, it didn't straight up overpower his Weakness Magic's prepared defences. Another thing to consider is that Machias are severely weak to lightning, so Red Lightning outright killing Wahl isn't really surprising.

I really consider this as a bad writing, because out of no where laxus felt he was weak ( how i wish Mashima let Laxus overpower the hypnosis instead). At least Mirajane has history to feel that shes weak. because she was not strong enough to save his sister before and the reason why her personality and willing to fight drastically changed.

I agree the writing was shoddy. But much like Mira, Laxus does have a history that could make him feel weak (being implanted with DS Lacrima by Ivan, feeling like he was in the shadow of Makarov, etc.).

Then theres nothing to suggest that Kyria can resist macro? unless she has a demon superiority. Can you name one at least? She was not even portrayed with high MP. At least Mirajane has been portrayed as such. So in terms of MP Mirajane>>Kyria. (Satan Soul was able to manipulate the entire river and Alegria MP alone dried up the sea)

What has Macro done to suggest it can control someone on Kyria's level? The last time Mira used Macro it failed to control a group of fodder.

Like what i said her hypnosis will not work since it has 2 weaknesses. 1 is awareness and second if you feel your weak.

Mira has no idea about Kyria's hypnosis though, so the weakness of awareness isn't applicable here.

The weakness of feeling weak is debatable, but I still don't see why current Mira would see herself as weak. As it is its complete speculation - Mira has shown nothing to suggest as of yet that she currently views herself as weak.

i dont even think if she can take the evil explosion or soul extinction (Unless shes intangible). Kyria couldnt even defend herself against the empress flames armor. Yes kyria is ready to fight but nothing would suggest she would do better against Erza. Look what happened when shes ready to fight laxus on the second time around she was badly beaten that it make her love laxus.

Kyria can last against Laxus for at least a decent amount of time, she's going to be able to tank attacks from BSS Mira lol. This is the same BSS that Mira couldn't fodderise J/H with - she's not one-shotting Kyria at all.

As for saying Kyria couldn't defend herself from Flame Empress Erza, that's true. You should note though that Erza was also using a sword enchanted with Dragon Slaying Magic, so its not as if Kyria was hit by a normal attack from her. The fact that she was ready to fight just after tanking that is impressive IMO. I'd also like to point out that Kyria was fighting on par with and defending herself finely from hot pants Erza - the clothing that puts all of Erza's Magic into her offence. She even destroys the sword she's using.

Yes Mirajane in her BSS form was not able to scratch Skullion but because of its intangibility. Is Laxus intangible? He even took Kyria's secret art without even defending it yet she failed to give him a scratch.

He didn't tank her Secret Art at any point, that was her roar. I don't really get why it not scratching Laxus is being used against her because for one Laxus has always been stupidly tanky (Wahl couldn't beat him when he had Magic Cancer and was having convulsions), and secondly her roar scratched the Water God's human form.

Just because Laxus/Jellal didn't get scratched doesn't suddenly mean Mira's gonna take it just as easily.

Also Mira's Magical blasts in BSS should still affect Skullion so him not being scratched means either:

- Skullion turned her attacks to ash
- Mira didn't use any Magical attacks
- Skullion tanked them

Regardless of which is true, the point stands that Skullion is unscathed.

and among the two girls. Laxus seems to respects Mirajane strength more . In GMG arc Laxus went on to claim that Mirajane "is not someone you want to piss off." And Mirajane in her fight against kamika, it was hinted that she already fought laxus before. commenting that Kamika's lightning paper was nothing compared to Laxus Dreyar's attacks.

Laxus made that comment in GMG - a lot of time has passed, why should I believe in that comment now? Laxus' opinion could have changed.

As for the part about Kamika, when did Mira say that? Did she only say it in the anime? I re-read their fight in the manga and she makes no such comment.

Regardless if she did say that or not, it doesn't necessarily suggest they fought in the past. All her comment might mean is that she's seen Laxus fight and Kamika's Magic doesn't compare. The statement itself really isn't that noteworthy anyway, she knows Laxus is the top tog of FT when Gildarts isn't around, if she can easily tank Kamika's attacks then she knows her attacks are nothing compared to Laxus'.

Even if Mira vs Laxus happened we don't know how it went and a lot of time has passed since Laxus made the statement. This is way too speculative IMO.

laxus strongest spell Nice one

Show me a better one not named Fairy Law.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Fair enough on Fairy Law, I forgot he had it tbh.

That said, why is Red Lightning better than his Secret Art? The only reason it looks so impressive is because it actually affected Wahl. And this was because Wahl's Weakness Magic couldn't analyse it in time, it didn't straight up overpower his Weakness Magic's prepared defences. Another thing to consider is that Machias are severely weak to lightning, so Red Lightning outright killing Wahl isn't really surprising.

I agree the writing was shoddy. But much like Mira, Laxus does have a history that could make him feel weak (being implanted with DS Lacrima by Ivan, feeling like he was in the shadow of Makarov, etc.).

What has Macro done to suggest it can control someone on Kyria's level? The last time Mira used Macro it failed to control a group of fodder.

Mira has no idea about Kyria's hypnosis though, so the weakness of awareness isn't applicable here.

The weakness of feeling weak is debatable, but I still don't see why current Mira would see herself as weak. As it is its complete speculation - Mira has shown nothing to suggest as of yet that she currently views herself as weak.

Kyria can last against Laxus for at least a decent amount of time, she's going to be able to tank attacks from BSS Mira lol. This is the same BSS that Mira couldn't fodderise J/H with - she's not one-shotting Kyria at all.

As for saying Kyria couldn't defend herself from Flame Empress Erza, that's true. You should note though that Erza was also using a sword enchanted with Dragon Slaying Magic, so its not as if Kyria was hit by a normal attack from her. The fact that she was ready to fight just after tanking that is impressive IMO. I'd also like to point out that Kyria was fighting on par with and defending herself finely from hot pants Erza - the clothing that puts all of Erza's Magic into her offence. She even destroys the sword she's using.

He didn't tank her Secret Art at any point, that was her roar. I don't really get why it not scratching Laxus is being used against her because for one Laxus has always been stupidly tanky (Wahl couldn't beat him when he had Magic Cancer and was having convulsions), and secondly her roar scratched the Water God's human form.

Just because Laxus/Jellal didn't get scratched doesn't suddenly mean Mira's gonna take it just as easily.

Also Mira's Magical blasts in BSS should still affect Skullion so him not being scratched means either:

- Skullion turned her attacks to ash
- Mira didn't use any Magical attacks
- Skullion tanked them

Regardless of which is true, the point stands that Skullion is unscathed.

Laxus made that comment in GMG - a lot of time has passed, why should I believe in that comment now? Laxus' opinion could have changed.

As for the part about Kamika, when did Mira say that? Did she only say it in the anime? I re-read their fight in the manga and she makes no such comment.

Regardless if she did say that or not, it doesn't necessarily suggest they fought in the past. All her comment might mean is that she's seen Laxus fight and Kamika's Magic doesn't compare. The statement itself really isn't that noteworthy anyway, she knows Laxus is the top tog of FT when Gildarts isn't around, if she can easily tank Kamika's attacks then she knows her attacks are nothing compared to Laxus'.

Even if Mira vs Laxus happened we don't know how it went and a lot of time has passed since Laxus made the statement. This is way too speculative IMO.

Show me a better one not named Fairy Law.

Raiko red lightning: The lightning has been described as being "lightning that goes beyond lightning",it was powerful and possesses unique properties, as it was able to kill Wall Eehto, a Machias who is extremely proud of his immunity to all forms of traditional lightning, be it Dragon Slayer lightning or otherwise.

Did Laxus kill anyone in his secret art?

Macro was effective against everyone in the eyesight of Mirajane. It was used against 30 or more soldiers. Did Seilah used it on 30 or more because Mirajane did.

Remember macro was used by Seilah against Erza in the red pants, Neo Minerva and with the 4 exceeds simulataneously. At the point that she can be oneshotted by the basic satan soul

Unless you want to claim that depleted Seilah>> tartaros Erza in the red pants + Neo Minerva + 4 exceeds.

So because Jacob did not use transport against Mirajane then he cant use his transport on someone against Mirajane caliber?

So because Irene didnt use her enchantment to turn Erza into mouse then it wont work againts Erza?

Like what i said Kyria has not shown any defensive capabilities. She couldnt tank the empress flames armor or any stronger spell.

Tempesta even put a good fight against Laxus than what has Kyria has shown.

It was hinted by Mirajane that they did fought before. Since she compared kamikas lighting to laxus attack. Even laxus hyped Mirajane in the GMG arc. I doubt he would hype her if shes not strong enough or if they did not test each other strength. Remember in the galuna island arc, when happy stole the s class mission. Laxus is the first person to triggered Mirajane's demon persona. He even claimed that its been a long time since he seen that kind of look.

Yes that was long ago. But Mirajane has improved since then. She was able to get Seilah (her limit release form one shotted the sitri) and all the souls of tartaros. Not to mention Mirajane Alegria.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Tempesta even put a good fight against Laxus than what has Kyria has shown.

Tempesta didn't put any fight against Laxus. He got fodderize from a get-go and needed to commit suicide to even down Laxus with MBP.

 

[kenedyfake]

Mirajane can handle Kyria in a combat fight, but the question is, does she have the weakness of having Luxus's weak heart or Erza's fake eyes?


kyria is a hax player

 

[Jko]

Sure, the lighthouse, the palace, the plantation, the clinic, the palace again and wherever else they went. Wendy was transformed by Merc before the tour, and even before that she could transformed Natsu back to normal and used Aqua Metria easily, one of her most impressive spells. So either Lucy forgot about Wendy because Erza and Gray just turned themselves back, or for some reason turning Wendy back is more exhausting than turning Natsu back, I'm personally going with the former, hard.
As for the chapter 8 to 9 thing. Chapter count doesn't equate to time passed in the FT world. An unhindered tour of the city is more than enough time to recover magic, especially when we've seen earlier that Lucy was already capable of switching Star Dresses and fighting without a hint of exhaustion.

So? The nuke eminated from Dimaria, they simply got blasted out of it. The anime depicts them getting nailed by the nuke, as does the manga. Base DImaria nuked them first, then Chronos nuked them again.

It was two hours, that's not enough time to replenish magic to even above half capacity. Lucy said she couldn't turn back Wendy bcs she ran too low on magic so she was only able to release Erza, Gray and Natsu (they never released themselves from Lucy's spell). She couldn't even use mix dress and didn't even summon one spirit lol. She was def not running at full capacity.

No, it doesn't. If they got blasted then would've been in the crater lol. They got hit by the backlash of it, both times.

 

[IamtherealMirajane]

Tempesta didn't put any fight against Laxus. He got fodderize from a get-go and needed to commit suicide to even down Laxus with MBP.

It was in Anime i think but nevertheless. He still put a good fight.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

It was in Anime i think but nevertheless. He still put a good fight.

Even then Laxus was on his last legs during the second round with Tempesta.

 

[Axiomus]

Getting beaten by Laxus doesn't make you a fodder. Laxus would have killed Ajeel in one hit, and did kill Wall with red lightning. Kyria survived a secret art. Her previous feats also haven't magically vanished. She still was evenly matched with Erza for quite some time, and oneshotted Wendy and Lucy. That roar also cut up Mercphobia. She also managed to cut Natsu with her attacks. She also cut her way out of Gray's ice. She also cut through Erza's sword and inflict cuts on Erza herself. Laxus being so dominant against Kyria just shows us how much of a beast Laxus is. Kyria still scales towards the other dragon eaters. She should be around Madmole's level overall, only difference being that Madmole specializes in defense while Kyria specializes in offense. Let's see Mirajane beat one of the dragon eaters first. Right now, she hasn't landed a scratch on either Madmole or Skullion....Which means she's pretty much in the same boat as Kyria.

Doesn't take a genius to figure out that Kamika's lightning is no match compared to Laxus' lightning. I haven't even fought Laxus, and I could tell you that. That statement doesn't imply that Mirajane was on Laxus' level.

Almost knocking out Wendy and Chelia is not as impressive as actually knocking out Wendy and Lucy.

 

[Jko]

Never oneshotted Ajeel, can't give feats to things that never happened. If so, I could just say Wall could have oneshotted Laxus. Ajeel fodderized Erza by just grabbing her which is more impressive than what Kyria has done.

Merc with no magic wasn't impressive.

She hasn't even attacked Madmole and can't hit Skullion bcs of inang lol. Kyria didn't have that trouble against Laxus.

That statement implies Mira has fought Laxus before and reinforces his statement of Mira being someone not to mess with.

KO-ing a tired Lucy is not impressive. Anyone above Wendy could oneshot her. Freaking Acno didn't KO Wendy so does that make Kyria automatically more impressive than Acno? Hell no.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Never oneshotted Ajeel, can't give feats to things that never happened.

finally Irene is featless then!!!

thank the lord!!!

 

[LaGOAT]

Show me a better one not named Fairy Law.

Its a casual punch It’s the same punch he used to beat his father

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finally Irene is featless then!!!

thank the lord!!!

Watch he contracted himself. Im telling u he hates laxus it’s ok tho not every1 has to like a boss

 

[Jko]

finally Irene is featless then!!!

thank the lord!!!

Except Erza was trashed in one hit by Irene's slap

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Its a casual punch It’s the same punch he used to beat his father

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Watch he contracted himself. Im telling u he hates laxus it’s ok tho not every1 has to like a boss

I don't hate Laxus, I just don't wank him like some Laxus fans. Look at the latest chapter, people basically kissed the man's feet for pulling Erza level bullshit and they turned a blind eye bcs he's Laxus.

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Y'all act like Laxus smashed Ajeel and then dropped that nuke lol.

Context matters. As I said, I could just say Laxus would've been oneshotted by Wall's attack based off his face alone.

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