Fantasy Mirajane vs Lucy

[kian]

Mira is so overrated lol, even if you think she wins she has no feats that shows she would be able to do it easily. Lucy's massively improved since their fight earlier in the series, while Mira's shown nothing and her not being able to beat Skullion has aged terribly

Do you not read the 100yq manga or something…?

there’s literally nothing clearer than how much above Mirajane is than Lucy lol

 

[Itsnever2k]

Do you not read the 100yq manga or something…?

there’s literally nothing clearer than how much above Mirajane is than Lucy lol

In what like chapter 30? Which is around the time Kiria low diffed Lucy. So I don't really see why that would mean much for how a fight between them would go now.

 

[AmitDS]

Gray used DeS magic cause he can't use Ice make magic. Freed made magic barrier, remember? DeS magic is specific. That's why Freed's plan ruined.
Where is a problem here?
In addicion to it Gray used only his fists against Freed. Without ice. Same story with Bickslow and Evergreen. He cares about his friends. So yes. I think Gray was galant with Mira

Still waiting for your proof that Gray didn't use it on Mira. What's the reason? To keep powerscaling fantasies about Gray being above her intact?

Face it, the only reason people even claim that he didn't use it is because they can't accept that Gray is as weak as he actually is.

Are you saying he wouldn't have used it on Freed had he needed to if he had access to ice make?

The point of bringing up Freed is to show that he would use it to hurt friends if he has to so the excuse that he went easy on Mira due to that has no canon backing.

Also he already agreed that Mira would resist it as well as Skullion did and said she's be tough, could beat Skullion, he knew he'd fight her heavily injured AND he struggled against her.

You thinking Gray went easy on her is not proof of it. Mira was confirmed to be able to resist DeS and Gray was confirmed to not hesitate to use it on Demon Freed if he needed to do so. He also agreed that he struggled and Juvia said he did his best (to her knowledge). On top of that Natsu wanked Mira as above Gajeel indirectly (along with Laxus and Jellal) all pointing to Mira > Gray with or without DeS.

No where was it ever stated or implied that DeS would put him above her. Gray never said " I can beat her with DeS" instead he agreed that she would be immune to his DeS freezing like Skullion was. Gray never said Mira would be easy to take down since she's a demon. He said that he expected to fight her heavily injured. He never said he went easy against her. Instead he said he struggled because his opponent was Mirajane.

It is clear that Gray is still weaker than her even with DeS and Mashima obviously believes this. Heck Gray himself does too. That's why it's his job to wank Laxus, Erza. Gildarts and Mira in this sequel, because he's inferior to every one of them, even Mirajane.

 

[Nespi]

Still waiting for your proof that Gray didn't use it on Mira.

It is necessary to prove the presence, not the absence. I have base Gray in the start and in the end of the fight. What do you have?

 

[FireIce]

Mirajane is stronger than Gray, she did better against Skullion and he struggled against her when she was tired, but he didn't had an extreme difficulty fight with her. He was neither low on magic power nor heavily injured. He still fought Metro afterwards. There is not a huge gap between them imo.

To stay on topic, Mirajane should make quick work of Lucy. The gap between them was explicitely shown in the Aldoron arc, where Lucy was helpless against a playing around Mira and was scared when she was powering up in Satan Soul. Gottfried may or may not defeat Mirajane, but if Mira unleashes of her like Kyria did, Lucy would probably die. Laxus won't be here to save her.

Only way Lucy wins is by using Gemini to turn into Lisanna but not sure if she could in this match because Lisanna isn't nearby.

 

[Itsnever2k]

Mirajane is stronger than Gray, she did better against Skullion and he struggled against her when she was tired, but he didn't had an extreme difficulty fight with her. He was neither low on magic power nor heavily injured. He still fought Metro afterwards. There is not a huge gap between them imo.

To stay on topic, Mirajane should make quick work of Lucy. The gap between them was explicitely shown in the Aldoron arc, where Lucy was helpless against a playing around Mira and was scared when she was powering up in Satan Soul. Gottfried may or may not defeat Mirajane, but if Mira unleashes of her like Kyria did, Lucy would probably die. Laxus won't be here to save her.

Only way Lucy wins is by using Gemini to turn into Lisanna but not sure if she could in this match because Lisanna isn't nearby.

Why though? Lucy has clearly grown a lot since their first fight, Kiria also easily beat Lucy the first time round, and was beat by her in the rematch. I don't see what Mira has shown to giver her so much credit. I don't get why people still think the Aldaron arc feats are super relevant like 90 chapters later.

 

[AmitDS]

It is necessary to prove the presence, not the absence. I have base Gray in the start and in the end of the fight. What do you have?

@ bold You don't have any panel of Gray in the fight...talk about absence.

I have Juvia stating he did his best and Gray agreeing that his DeS power would work as well on Mira as it did Skullion.

Unlike you guys I don't need a headcanon that Gray was holding back against his friend to comfort me. With or without DeS he already made it clear he's weaker.

Lol oh yeah and I have human Mirajane at the start and end of the fight though lol

 

[Garmadooon]

Why though? Lucy has clearly grown a lot since their first fight, Kiria also easily beat Lucy the first time round, and was beat by her in the rematch. I don't see what Mira has shown to giver her so much credit. I don't get why people still think the Aldaron arc feats are super relevant like 90 chapters later.

But Lucy had big circumstances in her favor in this fight against Kyria. Lucy's fight was done purely for her character and power development not for feats. All Labyrinth fights have been rigged in favor of FT. If Laxus isn't there she gets ripped off by Kyria without hax. It makes no sense for Lucy to be Mirajane level in such a short time.

 

[Itsnever2k]

But Lucy had big circumstances in her favor in this fight against Kyria. Lucy's fight was done purely for her character and power development not for feats. All Labyrinth fights have been rigged in favor of FT. If Laxus isn't there she gets ripped off by Kyria without hax. It makes no sense for Lucy to be Mirajane level in such a short time.

She beat Kiria because her gemini x aquarius dress was too strong. Lucy's been in a lot of fights since her fight with Mira, it makes sense she would grow a lot.

 

[Garmadooon]

She beat Kiria because her gemini x aquarius dress was too strong. Lucy's been in a lot of fights since her fight with Mira, it makes sense she would grow a lot.

Yes Lucy grew I agree, but she needed a POF stimulus to win. Just because she's in more fights than Mira doesn't mean she'll catch up to her that easily. Lucy is one of the main characters so she will be favored. Do you think Erza is equal to Gildarts because she has more fights than him?

 

[Itsnever2k]

Yes Lucy grew I agree, but she needed a POF stimulus to win. Just because she's in more fights than Mira doesn't mean she'll catch up to her that easily. Lucy is one of the main characters so she will be favored. Do you think Erza is equal to Gildarts because she has more fights than him?

There's nothing stopping Lucy from using gemini x aquarius in the future under normal circumstances. I think if Erza can defeat people who are in the same tier of strength as gildarts, then yes you can argue she is equal to him. Mira's not done anything to put her above the kiria tier, which is why I think it would be a hard fight either way.

 

[Darklord#10]

Mirajane might be below the likes of gildarts and laxus but she's far above the likes of Lucy gray and gajeel. She stalemate skullion in her bss form and skullion is stronger than gray by a good margin

 

[Mimi0207]

Lucy wins. She was on par with Mira weakest form because Mirajane couldn’t put her down. And she wasn’t going all out because she didn’t use Gottfried. With this spell she one shotted Kyria who is physically stronger than Mirajane because she fought on par with Erza and we know that Erza would one shot Mirajane without trying. She can also weaken Mirajane with Gemini Lisanna.

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Do you not read the 100yq manga or something…?

there’s literally nothing clearer than how much above Mirajane is than Lucy lol

I read the manga and Mirajane couldn’t beat Skullion while Lucy beat Kyria. Lucy > Kyria > Skullion = Mirajane.
You just favor her because she is your favorite character.

 

[Darklord#10]

Mirajane is a god in front of the likes of Lucy gray and gajeel. Facts

 

[Mimi0207]

Mirajane is a god in front of the likes of Lucy gray and gajeel. Facts

No. She lost to Gray and couldn’t beat Lucy with Elfman help. She didn’t take any W on this sequel but people on this forum act like she is a top tier.

 

[Darklord#10]

No. She lost to Gray and couldn’t beat Lucy with Elfman help. She didn’t take any W on this sequel but people on this forum act like she is a top tier.

Tf are you talking about, bro

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Cana said it was pathetic how gray struggled against a beat up opponent and his rebuttal is "WELL THAT OPPONENT IS MIRA-CHAN" she literally stalemated the Guy who mopped gray's weak ass

 

[Maguilty]

Lmao for the Lucy wanker

 

[kian]

Lucy wins. She was on par with Mira weakest form because Mirajane couldn’t put her down. And she wasn’t going all out because she didn’t use Gottfried. With this spell she one shotted Kyria who is physically stronger than Mirajane because she fought on par with Erza and we know that Erza would one shot Mirajane without trying. She can also weaken Mirajane with Gemini Lisanna.

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I read the manga and Mirajane couldn’t beat Skullion while Lucy beat Kyria. Lucy > Kyria > Skullion = Mirajane.
You just favor her because she is your favorite character.

Mirajane being my favourite character aside, it’s literally basic reading comprehension to come to the conclusion of Mirajane > Lucy

 

[sree]

Mirajane wins unless Hiro decides to troll her for no reason.

 

[Mimi0207]

Mirajane being my favourite character aside, it’s literally basic reading comprehension to come to the conclusion of Mirajane > Lucy

There is no conclusion who proves Mirajane > Lucy. Mirajane said she couldn’t beat Skullion and she exhausted all her power while trying to beat him. Lucy lost to Kyria who is stronger than Mirajane and Skullion but then, she became stronger and was able to beat her. Just like Erza struggled to beat Kyria but then she gave a good fight against Laxus and defeated Misaki. But Mirajane has nothing to suggest she improved so she is only on Skullion level while Lucy Gottfried is above Kyria level. Mirajane has no durability to say she can tank Gottfried which is stronger than Lion Maiden who could scratch her and Elfman. And Lucy can reverse her form with a fake Lisanna. And she could fight Athena who is far stronger than Mirajane.

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Tf are you talking about, bro

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Cana said it was pathetic how gray struggled against a beat up opponent and his rebuttal is "WELL THAT OPPONENT IS MIRA-CHAN" she literally stalemated the Guy who mopped gray's weak ass

If she is so superior to Gray then she should beat him even if she is tired. Right now Mirajane and Gray are on the same level and Lucy and Wendy surpassed them because they both beat opponents stronger than Skullion.