Discussion Mirajane vs Madmole

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still doesn’t change the fact she bypassed it, meaning she could do it.

I know ? I was saying we never got to see how

 

[Jko]

Mira beats Madmole low diff. Madmole was getting beat by Elf who is far weaker than Mira.

R2 Mira takes it if she is not locked to BSS. If she is then stalemate.

 

[Ramen]

Mira beats Madmole low diff. Madmole was getting beat by Elf who is far weaker than Mira.

Unless she has an attack tiers above FDK Purgatory, there is no way she can low diff. Elfman and Madmole were completely stalemating each other. No one side was beating the other.

 

[Jko]

Unless she has an attack tiers above FDK Purgatory, there is no way she can low diff. Elfman and Madmole were completely stalemating each other. No one side was beating the other.

Mira >>> Elfman = Madmole. FDK Purgatory was not impressive and FDK Demofist was out done by Mira in BSS and Elf in lion form. I see no reason he wouldn't be easily put down Mira when he couldn't even harm her with his offense. Mira and Elf already bypassed his armor scales as well so the best thing (defense) he got it isn't even going to work.

 

[Ramen]

Mira >>> Elfman = Madmole. FDK Purgatory was not impressive and FDK Demofist was out done by Mira in BSS and Elf in lion form. I see no reason he wouldn't be easily put down Mira when he couldn't even harm her with his offense. Mira and Elf already bypassed his armor scales as well.

How was FDK Purgatory not impressive? It literally incapacitated Madmole for a limited time. Purgatory>>>DemoFist. Also, Purgatory is above anything Elfman has ever done and Mira doesn't have anything as impressive as it.

Mira has never bypassed his armor what? The fight was off-panel and even then all hints point towards Elfman vs Madmole. Elfman never did either. Scratching him is not the same as bypassing his armor.

Mira does not have a single attack that can Ko Madmole in a low diff. That's extreme wank of Mira. FDK Natsu>>Mira but Natsu couldn't low diff him.

 

[Jko]

How was FDK Purgatory not impressive? It literally incapacitated Madmole for a limited time. Purgatory>>>DemoFist. Also, Purgatory is above anything Elfman has ever done and Mira doesn't have anything as impressive as it.

Mira has never bypassed his armor what? The fight was off-panel and even then all hints point towards Elfman vs Madmole. Elfman never did either. Scratching him is not the same as bypassing his armor.

Mira does not have a single attack that can Ko Madmole in a low diff. That's extreme wank of Mira.

It impacted him bcs of the increased heat and not power of the attack. So basically it bypassed his heat resistance and the heat generated from the attack was not impressive to what Natsu has already done previously. Above Elf, but not Mira who vaped a sea with a magic flex. She also has consistently shown to have higher power than Base Natsu.

She did as it was a 4 way. We have an on panel feat of them all attacking each other. They did hurt Madmole as he had beat up markers indicating he was beat up. They left bcs they were in a stalemate which means that both side would have to be equally beat up as well. It was shown on panel that he was beat up so where are getting he wasn't?

She can beat him in BSS just fine. She gave Gray, the DeS, a high diff while in BSS and injured so why the heck wouldn't a full healthy Mira not merk Madmole?

 

[Ramen]

It impacted him bcs of the increased heat and not power of the attack. So basically it bypassed his heat resistance and the heat generated from the attack was not impressive to what Natsu has already done previously. Above Elf, but not Mira who vaped a sea with a magic flex. She also has consistently shown to have higher power than Base Natsu.

Natsu also vaped a lake with magic flex. I never said Base Natsu, I said FDK Natsu. Mira has never had feats that are equal or surpass his. As long as it took FDK Natsu a high diff, then it will take Mira a high diff too. Again, I don't see what she's gonna do to low diff him if Natsu couldn't.

She can beat him in BSS just fine. She gave Gray, the DeS, a high diff while in BSS and injured so why the heck wouldn't a full healthy Mira not merk Madmole?

Because Gray wouldn't merk Madmole either? I highly doubt Gray would even win a 1v1 against him. Gray has never shown anything that can bypass his armor.

So she gave a Gray a high diff fight in BSS so what? I'll say it again:
Mira has never shown anything that can low diff someone with tankiness like Madmole.

 

[Jko]

Natsu also vaped a lake with magic flex. I never said Base Natsu, I said FDK Natsu. Mira has never had feats that are equal or surpass his. As long as it took FDK Natsu a high diff, then it will take Mira a high diff too. Again, I don't see what she's gonna do to low diff him if Natsu couldn't.



Because Gray wouldn't merk Madmole either? I highly doubt Gray would even win a 1v1 against him. Gray has never shown anything that can bypass his armor.

So she gave a Gray a high diff fight in BSS so what? I'll say it again:
Mira has never shown anything that can low diff someone with tankiness like Madmole.

Natsu never used FDKM for Madmole and Natsu vaped a lake with fire magic not a magic flex lol. Also Mira also vaped a sea not a lake and passive heat from FDKM >>> FDK Purgatory. She does as FDK Purgatory is not impressive. The sea vape is a far better feat. FDK Natsu is just Base Natsu using FDK attacks. Mira is better than Base Natsu as she has consistently shown to do the same stuff he has in weaker forms.

Mira >>> Gray >>> Elfman = Madmole. Not even mention the slayer advantage Gray has against Demons as well. Why wouldn't Gray be able to take Madmole when Gray would give Natsu way more trouble than Madmole?

Mira has already shown to be better than Madmole as she stalemated a stronger opponent than Madmole in BSS, bypassed his armor with pure power in BSS, and no sold his offensive attacks in BSS. Mira would clap Madmole. She can hurt him while he can't really hurt her.

Mira low diffs.

 

[Ramen]

Natsu never used FDKM for Madmole and Natsu vaped a lake with fire magic not a magic flex lol. Also Mira also vaped a sea not a lake and passive heat from FDKM >>> FDK Purgatory. She does as FDK Purgatory is not impressive. The sea vape is a far better feat. FDK Natsu is just Base Natsu using FDK attacks. Mira is better than Base Natsu as she has consistently shown to do the same stuff he has in weaker forms.

Mira >>> Gray >>> Elfman = Madmole. Not even mention the slayer advantage Gray has against Demons as well. Why wouldn't Gray be able to take Madmole when Gray would give Natsu way more trouble than Madmole?

Mira has already shown to be better than Madmole as she stalemated a stronger opponent than Madmole in BSS, bypassed his armor with pure power in BSS, and no sold his offensive attacks in BSS. Mira would clap Madmole. She can hurt him while he can't really hurt her.

Mira low diffs.

Bruh......everything you just said is wrong. Like legit everything.

What's next? Mira extreme diffs Gildarts?

 

[Jko]

Bruh......everything you just said is wrong. Like legit everything.

What's next? Mira extreme diffs Gildarts?

Bruh...it's not.

Madmole would get spite stomped by Gild so your point is moot and irrelevant.

 

[Ramen]

Bruh...it's not.

It is.

Madmole would get spite stomped by Gild so your point is moot and irrelevant.

Clearly you didn't get the point.

 

[Jko]

It is.



Clearly you didn't get the point.

It's not.

Cleay you are pulling strawmans. Gild is not in the debate and his power level is far above Madmole so using him as some sort exaggerated claim that I have never made is moot and irrelevant. I'd say Base Natsu low diffs Madmole as well. What's next Base Natsu can extreme diff August? Like I said irrelevant and moot.

 

[Ramen]

Cleay you are pulling strawmans. Gild is not in the debate and his power level is far above Madmole so using him as some sort exaggerated claim that I have never made is moot and irrelevant. I'd say Base Natsu low diffs Madmole as well. What's next Base Natsu can extreme diff August? Like I said irrelevant and moot.

It's not a strawman, it's to show how much bs you inject into Mira. The amount of wank you have done for Mira in itself should be a fallacy.

What base Natsu low diffs Madmole when FDK Natsu couldn't? Yea ok. But again, what's the point of even trying to have a discussion with you when the only answer I'll get is Mira>> Gray or Mira low diffs.

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It's not.

Yes it is. It's up to you whether you wanna be ignorant to that fact or not.

 

[Jko]

It's not a strawman, it's to show how much bs you inject into Mira. The amount if wank you have done for Mira in itself should be a fallacy.

What base Natsu low diffs Madmole when FDK Natsu couldn't? Yea ok.

It is as your are using a irrelevant claim that I have never made or insinuated as way to deflect and make me seem crazy. Bruh either keep to the topic at hand or stop debating with me. It is as simple as that. Just bcs you think Madmole is something he is not doesn't mean I do. The dude is Elf tier so I see zero reason he wouldn't get low diffed by Mira. Saying Mira low diffs Madmole doesn't put her at Gild level. The fact you implied that in your previous post shows you wank for Madmole should be a fallacy.

Natsu using FDK in Base is still Base Natsu. FDKM, and DF are Natsu current modes that actually put him above Base form.

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It's not a strawman, it's to show how much bs you inject into Mira. The amount of wank you have done for Mira in itself should be a fallacy.

What base Natsu low diffs Madmole when FDK Natsu couldn't? Yea ok. But again, what's the point of even trying to have a discussion with you when the only answer I'll get is Mira>> Gray or Mira low diffs.

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Yes it is. It's up to you whether you wanna be ignorant to that fact or not.

Mira is stronger than Gray who is stronger than Elf who is equaled to Madmole. Dunno what's hard to grasp.

It is not.

 

[Ramen]

It is as your are using a irrelevant claim that I have never made or insulated as way to deflect. Bruh either keep to the topic at hand or stop debating with me. It is as simple as that. Just bcs you think Madmole is something he is not doesn't mean I do. The dude is Elf tier so I see zero reason he wouldn't get low diffed by Mira. Saying Mira low diffs Madmole doesn't put her at Gild level. The fact you implied that in your previous post shows you wank for Madmole should be a fallacy.

Or shut up with the Mira wank and debate properly? Or is that too hard? Mira didn't low diff Skullion or Madmole so I don't see how she is now.

Natsu using FDK in Base is still Base Natsu. FDKM, and DF are Natsu current modes that actually put him above Base form.

That makes no sense. FDK is like LFD. It's a mode with stronger flames. Base FDK doesn't make sense. That's like saying Base Laxus with RL. Everytime he uses FDK attacks he goes into that mode.

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Mira is stronger than Gray who is stronger than Elf who is equaled to Madmole. Dunno what's hard to grasp.

The fact that she didn't low diff anyone. Madmole pushed her back in their fight. That alone shows that it's not a low diff.

Can you show me a single attack that would get past his armor that quickly?

 

[Jko]

Or shut up with the Mira wank and debate properly? Or is that too hard? Mira didn't low diff Skullion or Madmole so I don't see how she is now.



That makes no sense. FDK is like LFD. It's a mode with stronger flames. Base FDK doesn't make sense. That's like saying Base Laxus with RL. Everytime he uses FDK attacks he goes into that mode.

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The fact that she didn't low diff anyone. Madmole pushed her back in their fight. That alone shows that it's not a low diff.

Can you show me a single attack that would get past his armor that quickly?

I am the one debating properly as I have never once went off topic.... You did and made exaggerated claims that I have never implied in my posts. Like I said on topic or stop trying to debate with me. It is simple as I am not going into loops with irrelevant and moot claims I never made or implied. Also telling someone to "shut up" on an online forum is . Skullion is far stronger than Madmole and Mira didn't low diff Madmole bcs of Skullion. Just like Skullion didn't low diff Elfman bcs of Mira.

Except that's wrong as he used FDKM to enhance his FDK attacks twice. There would be no point in using a mode to only use one move you can do in base form unless it amps your attacks.

You are acting like Madmole was her prime target...and are acting like Skullion wasn't there lol. Do you think Skullion wouldn't low diff Elfman if Mira wasn't there???

Her punches or nukes as he was shown to have been hurt by both Elf and Mira.

 

[Ramen]

I am the one debating properly as I have never once went off topic.... You did and made exaggerated claims that I have never implied in my posts. Like I said on topic or stop trying to debate with me. It is simple as I am not going into loops with irrelevant and moot claims I never made or implied. Also telling someone to "shut up" on an online forum is . Skullion is far stronger than Madmole and Mira didn't low diff Madmole bcs of Skullion. Just like Skullion didn't low diff Elfman bcs of Mira.

Except that's wrong as he used FDKM to enhance his FDK attacks twice. There would be no point in using a mode to only use one move you can do in base form unless it amps your attacks.

You are acting like Madmole was her prime target...and are acting like Skullion wasn't there lol. Do you think Skullion wouldn't low diff Elfman if Mira wasn't there???

Her punches or nukes as he was shown to have been hurt by both Elf and Mira.

Again, you're arguing from a standpoint that Mira is your favorite character. Wanking someone online is

FDK is a mode. That's not debatable.

I'll keep saying it if you refuse to rebuttal it. Mira has never shown something that can bypass his armour. Simple. Everything you said is Mira wank. Putting scratches on him doesn't mean you can Ko him.

I'll just quote Ax here.

FDK is FDK. There's no such thing as "base FDK". Natsu is either using FDK flames or he's not. If Natsu is using FDK flames, then he's not using regular flames.
The mode is just when Natsu releases and covers himself with his power. Much of the same can be said about LFD. There's no such thing as "base LFD". Natsu is either using lightning or he's not.

 

[Jko]

Again, you're arguing from a standpoint that Mira is your favorite character. Wanking someone online is

FDK is a mode. That's not debatable.

I'll keep saying it if you refuse to rebuttal it. Mira has never shown something that can bypass his armour. Simple. Everything you said is Mira wank. Putting scratches on him doesn't mean you can Ko him.

I'm gonna quote Ax and leave it here.

FDK is FDK. There's no such thing as "base FDK". Natsu is either using FDK flames or he's not. If Natsu is using FDK flames, then he's not using regular flames.
The mode is just when Natsu releases and covers himself with his power. Much of the same can be said about LFD. There's no such thing as "base LFD". Natsu is either using lightning or he's not.

She already shown to bypass the armor when he shown to beat up from the fight with Elf and Mira.

He was beat up, those weren't scratches and he was sweating after the fight which only reinforces he was beat up. As with the obvious text pointing out he was beat up since it was a stalemate. Keep on topic as what I am saying is not wank and Mira is not even my favourite character.

No, there is. He can cover himself in flames any time he wants and he also didn't cover himself in flames when he used it again Jacob. So again why would he use a form for one move if it didn't amplify is attacks? There is a difference between FDK and FDKM and that is that FDKM Demo-fist is far stronger and hotter than any Base FDK attack shown to date. No one would enter a mode to only use one move unless it amplified the power of the attack and no Base FDK attack is better than what FDKM has shown with just it's passive heat let alone it's actual attack. FDKM Natsu vaped a huge Lake while FDK Purgatory singed off clothes at best? Lol.

 

[Ramen]

@Jko Aii so was it Base RL that fought Erza? Or Base DeS that fought Invel?

Can you show me when Natsu used base FDK in the series? And when he used actual FDKM?

FDKM = FDKM

Base = Base

Keep on topic? I've asked you to show me Mira's attacks like 6 times.

 

[Jko]

No, there is. He can cover himself in flames any time he wants and he also didn't cover himself in flames when he used it again Jacob. So again why would he use a form for one move if it didn't amplify is attacks? There is a difference between FDK and FDKM and that is that FDKM Demo-fist is far stronger and hotter than any Base FDK attack shown to date. No one would enter a mode to only use one move unless it amplified the power of the attack and no Base FDK attack is better than what FDKM has shown with just it's passive heat let alone it's actual attack. FDKM Natsu vaped a huge Lake while FDK Purgatory singed off clothes at best? Lol.

Aii so was it Base RL that fought Erza? Or Base DeS that fought Invel?

Can you show me when Natsu used base FDK in the series? And when he used actual FDKM?

FDKM = FDKM

Base = Base
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Base RL fought Erza? What.... Yeah it Base Gray that fought Invel...he clearly didn't have the DeS marks.

Yes.

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yeah, but FDK =/= FDKM.

He can use the FDK spells in Base