Discussion Mystery Team SPAIN

[mathematicianrcg]

I think Romeo even before he unlocked 120% was stronger than Mares. But I think his White Flame power puts him slightly above Romeo. Silva and Julio are just a much stronger Golden Pair best Doubles Team. But would lose badly to the others in singles.

Now the Ranking is clearer.

SINGLES/INDIVIDUAL ABILITY

1/2 Ryoga and Medanore

3. Mares

4. Romeo

5. Sedah

6/7. Julio/Silva

 

[ShadowHeart]

Now the Ranking is clearer.

SINGLES/INDIVIDUAL ABILITY

1/2 Ryoga and Medanore

3. Mares

4. Romeo

5. Sedah

6/7. Julio/Silva

I'm not sure now tbh honest Mares was effected by Seda poor copy of Romeo ability. So if Romeo had a match with Mares I definitely see Romeo taking 1 set before he adjust. And well I'm not sure whether White Flame surpasses 120% Hormones.

 

[-Ken-]

I'm not sure now tbh honest Mares was effected by Seda poor copy of Romeo ability. So if Romeo had a match with Mares I definitely see Romeo taking 1 set before he adjust. And well I'm not sure whether White Flame surpasses 120% Hormones.

White Flame completely crushed decently double PoP Kintarou+Ohmagari that manage to beat Tanegashima+Shiraishi, a person on par with Kishin! Oni. It's 7-0 if I remember the score correctly or a 7-1. I simply just don't see Romeo doing anything near that to Tanegashima or even Pre-Final Kintarou

 

[ShadowHeart]

White Flame completely crushed decently double PoP Kintarou+Ohmagari that manage to beat Tanegashima+Shiraishi, a person on par with Kishin! Oni. It's 7-0 if I remember the score correctly or a 7-1. I simply just don't see Romeo doing anything near that to Tanegashima or even Pre-Final Kintarou

Why not he kept up with Atobe 3 years into the future who should much stronger than Tanegashima. And they Romeo even received a power up making him stronger than that Atobe.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Why not he kept up with Atobe 3 years into the future who should much stronger than Tanegashima. And they Romeo even received a power up making him stronger than that Atobe.

The problem with using "Future Atobe" as benchmark is the Current Atobe has access to his Future Moves. But his body cannot manage to control it full. His feet and body was in blood in the last play.

So, how do we factor that in?

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I'm not sure now tbh honest Mares was effected by Seda poor copy of Romeo ability. So if Romeo had a match with Mares I definitely see Romeo taking 1 set before he adjust. And well I'm not sure whether White Flame surpasses 120% Hormones.

Fair. But also Mares paralysis will be a problem for Romeo too.

Idk if Romeo can manage to avoid his paralysis.

Especially in Mares Service games.

The ability of Romeo that will give Mares a big problem is Materializer. I am not sure Mares can simpy negate illusion hax. As you said, Sedah's hypnosis worked on him.

 

[-Ken-]

Why not he kept up with Atobe 3 years into the future who should much stronger than Tanegashima. And they Romeo even received a power up making him stronger than that Atobe.

Tanegashima is on par with Kishin Oni which is one of the best players on Japan team. I don't think it's a level that can be surpass that easily. I would say at best he's just on par with it, which would still be losing to Kintarou pre-final. The score is that Pre-final Kintarou does beat Tanegashima is actually like 6-2. It's not close.

But sure. For the sake of argument, let's simply assume that Romeo is stronger than Tanegashima. I'll go back to the fact that pre-final Kintarou which do beat Tanegashima after simply going up from noob to rookie in Doubles at 6-2 because last seen score is 1-4 before it end at 7-6 after Kintarou stop sucking. That Kintarou still get crushed by a Olympus Light Seda 6-0 before Mares get his white flame and if Romeo can do the same, that's basically saying that Romeo can 6-0 Tanegashima and Kishin Oni, which I don't know how realistic that sounds. And then Kintarou get an upgrade that allow him to fight on that level. And White Flame Mares+Olympus Light Seda even up with that Kintarou upgrade in the end because we do know Olympus Light Seda get absolute shit on by not even Kintarou that doesn't switch his racquet yet.

Of course, it's all doubles so maybe Olympus Seda wouldn't have dominated pre-final Kintarou the same way in singles if there isn't Ohmagari as Kintarou partner but Ohmagari is somewhat pulling his weight. But White Flame Mares that can suppressed the upgraded Kintarou+him switching his racquet just seem too much for Romeo for me.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

I think Mares is very strong.

Ohmagari countered him with Nitoryu. But for a lot of other players, Mares will always win his service games due to his Paralyzing Serves.

And he can also use a slightly weaker paralysis shots in groundstrokes and return rally shots.

Then, White Flame Aura came, and able to contain TNK2 Kintarou.

Mares is also a Singles Player. Both him and Seda are. That's why they used Individualistic style doubles.

 

[ShadowHeart]

The problem with using "Future Atobe" as benchmark is the Current Atobe has access to his Future Moves. But his body cannot manage to control it full. His feet and body was in blood in the last play.

So, how do we factor that in?

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Fair. But also Mares paralysis will be a problem for Romeo too.

Idk if Romeo can manage to avoid his paralysis.

Especially in Mares Service games.

The ability of Romeo that will give Mares a big problem is Materializer. I am not sure Mares can simpy negate illusion hax. As you said, Sedah's hypnosis worked on him.

How do you explain his body breaking down then? He didn't use any futures other than his serve.

 

[Hardy]

How do you explain his body breaking down then? He didn't use any futures other than his serve.

It's probably a big stat boost, that his body can't handle for long.

And they Romeo even received a power up making him stronger than that Atobe.

I think Romeo didn't manage to win a single "clean" point after Atobe received his final upgrade. Even with 120%, the best he managed to do was forcing rallies and was only scoring whenever Atobe broke down (before that he wasn't able to return a single serve).

 

[ShadowHeart]

It's probably a big stat boost, that his body can't handle for long.



I think Romeo didn't manage to win a single "clean" point after Atobe received his final upgrade. Even with 120%, the best he managed to do was forcing rallies and was only scoring whenever Atobe broke down (before that he wasn't able to return a single serve).

I'm on about the Atobe who got 3 years into the future power up. 100% Hormones Romeo could play evenly with that one before Atobe unlocked future sight.

 

[PinnacleofSorcery]

We never got a foreign player with a kijin before, I wonder if Medanore is going to change that? If so what do you guys think his kijin will be?

 

[mathematicianrcg]

We never got a foreign player with a kijin before, I wonder if Medanore is going to change that? If so what do you guys think his kijin will be?

Mares with Suki Kijin dont count??? hahah

Duke was in France 2 years ago. And I assume he was able to Kijin back then as he is #1 of France.

But seriously, It is obvious Medanore will have a Kijin.

Thats the point of Byodouin requesting Duke to play against Tokugawa in intra tourney. In order to prepare Toku against Medanore.

Remember, Byodouin knows about Medanore too.

Byodouin travelled around the world to beat Amadeus, Volk, and Medanore

 

[LetalHawk]

Mares with Suki Kijin dont count??? hahah

Duke was in France 2 years ago. And I assume he was able to Kijin back then as he is #1 of France.

But seriously, It is obvious Medanore will have a Kijin.

Thats the point of Byodouin requesting Duke to play against Tokugawa in intra tourney. In order to prepare Toku against Medanore.

Remember, Byodouin knows about Medanore too.

Byodouin travelled around the world to beat Amadeus, Volk, and Medanore

Mares had Suki’s spirit, and Ludovic had a Knight so we got two already.

I expect Medanore to have one at least, or the two Medanores have two different Kijins maybe.

 

[PinnacleofSorcery]

Mares had Suki’s spirit, and Ludovic had a Knight so we got two already.

I expect Medanore to have one at least, or the two Medanores have two different Kijins maybe.

Oh right I forgot Ludovic and Mares had it. I honestly keep forgetting some

Mares had Suki’s spirit, and Ludovic had a Knight so we got two already.

I expect Medanore to have one at least, or the two Medanores have two different Kijins maybe.

Imagine if he has Two different Kijins+howling+ synchro, he'll be broken to the max

 

[Adamska]

The two Medanores are open to be anything that we've seen so far.yet I guess we're going to see something new and superrrrrrr!!!

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Oh right I forgot Ludovic and Mares had it. I honestly keep forgetting some


Imagine if he has Two different Kijins+howling+ synchro, he'll be broken to the max

At this point it is obvious that he will have 2 kijins (one each medanore).

But instead of the Medanores. the 2 Kijins will be the ones doing howling.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Medanore's Skills so far

1. Za Warudo (Time Stop) - ability to stop time. All People and things stop in a time freeze except Medanore. Medanore can move while others are freeze in time stop.

2. Strongest Spear (Dark Matter) - It is like a stronger whirlpool shot (by Volk). It was able to pass thru Tokugawa's Black hole.

**----**

Are you impressed so far with him so far?

I am ok actually. He is good. But I am expecting more in second and third set. To destroy Tokugawa.

Remember, Za Warudo doesn't work, or at least ineffective against Tokugawa. So, I think there might be alternatives.

 

[ShadowHeart]

There 2 broken abilities and he's stalling so yeah I'm impressed with him.

 

[-Ken-]

Za Warudo alone actually should be enough hax to beat most people in the series. It's basically as strong as the writer want it to be. If Konomi make Za Warudo beat Byoudonin and Volk would people really be surprise? It's a time stop.

Volk and Byoudonin are most likely stronger, but I'm just saying looking at Za Warudo it just seem so broken.

 

[Ganonslayer101]

I like how to "Time Stop" we had to write Fuji painfully getting aced over 100 times to get the feel of it then explain that he's reacting on instinct over letting his brain process what's going on.



Then Medanore just actually has reality warping super powers. Im hoping it will be explained, even if flimsily. Like Volk can time loop because your body fails to recognize that you're losing so bad that it actually hypnotizes themselves. Medanore so far can just no cost do that.