Discussion Mystery Team SPAIN

[Hardy]

Wonder why he didn't have QP mention Spain during Germany meeting? Makes me think he didn't originally have planned for Spain to be a big player.

Maybe just Konomi hiding how strong they are from us. There's a chance they are all unknown players except for Medanore, who has seemingly recovered from a big injury, so it's not too odd.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Wonder why he didn't have QP mention Spain during Germany meeting? Makes me think he didn't originally have planned for Spain to be a big player.

Well, qp are even more concerned on overrated switzerland, who was destroyed by the USA team that is just destroyed by Spain.

I dont know, But I feel QP reputation as a data analyst received a big hit there. As he considered Swiss as "strongest overall". Germany will easily 3-0 Swiss.

Now for QP and Spain. I agree that Konomi just hiding their true strength. Or they are harder to scout. Or maybe they are an antidata players like Fuji

 

[Hardy]

Well, qp are even more concerned on overrated switzerland, who was destroyed by the USA team that is just destroyed by Spain.

I dont know, But I feel QP reputation as a data analyst received a big hit there. As he considered Swiss as "strongest overall". Germany will easily 3-0 Swiss.

Now for QP and Spain. I agree that Konomi just hiding their true strength. Or they are harder to scout. Or maybe they are an antidata players like Fuji

It really depends. USA is a recent gathering of talents so it could be the reason as to why they are not only ranked lower than the rest but why QP doesn't have the best data on them.

They didn't destroy Switzerland either, they technically won 3-1 and S1 was absurdly close. Seigaku didn't destroy Shiten.

I won't say it's even hinted, but I do think USA just played their cards right when it came to making a line-up and hit Switzerland in their weak spots, as Mizuki would (even though St Ru was much much weaker than Seigaku) so even the 3-1 doesn't show the full picture.

 

[TFJ]

Wonder why he didn't have QP mention Spain during Germany meeting? Makes me think he didn't originally have planned for Spain to be a big player.

Could be.

The switch of Ryoga from USA to Spain was really out of nowhere imo. Maybe the US players/team/country wasn't as interesting as he thought. Or maybe he couldn't or didn't want to develop them. I mean Kiku is Irie-lite, Dodu is jump high man, Ralph is captain. We don't have anything else about them and maybe he thought he should just abandon them.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Could be.

The switch of Ryoga from USA to Spain was really out of nowhere imo. Maybe the US players/team/country wasn't as interesting as he thought. Or maybe he couldn't or didn't want to develop them. I mean Kiku is Irie-lite, Dodu is jump high man, Ralph is captain. We don't have anything else about them and maybe he thought he should just abandon them.

Dont forger the Genius Doctor Alan who beat Peter.

I realize Alan may be the Vice Captain. Because the wiki said " He is second in command" in Usa

But yes outside of them,we dont know usa players that much

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It really depends. USA is a recent gathering of talents so it could be the reason as to why they are not only ranked lower than the rest but why QP doesn't have the best data on them.

They didn't destroy Switzerland either, they technically won 3-1 and S1 was absurdly close. Seigaku didn't destroy Shiten.

I won't say it's even hinted, but I do think USA just played their cards right when it came to making a line-up and hit Switzerland in their weak spots, as Mizuki would (even though St Ru was much much weaker than Seigaku) so even the 3-1 doesn't show the full picture.

Shinten Seigaku a little bit different.

Because Gin Should have beaten Kawamura. If not for that " Injury Abandon" Match thing

 

[Hardy]

Whenever I think of "what kind of players the opponent could have" I think on how well they would match up against the main team (or, well, the players I expect to play). E.g. Kintarou beating a Ryoma clone (maybe Ryoga's half brother even, lol) and Kirihara matching against someone that is on the same level as Yukimura is now. Maybe that's a good basis for a discussion about what we can expect from Spain.

Dont forger the Genius Doctor Alan who beat Peter.

I realize Alan may be the Vice Captain. Because the wiki said " He is second in command" in Usa

But yes outside of them,we dont know usa players that much

Uh, better source:

 

[mathematicianrcg]

We are just 1 match away from meeting the Spain Players.

Spain did not lose any match yet. Also they probably 3-0 all their opponents.

And obviously, it makes sense for them to be stronger overall than Germany.

Ryoga and Medanore are probably the strongest players now

And other players who are retained from last WC where they finished 4th without Medanore and Ryoga.

Irie/Atobe
Fuji
Ryoma
Tokugawa

Would probably play for Japan. I am still thinking who will play in the other doubles.

But obviously like Rikkai Vs Seigaku. I expect Spain to be dominating at first and up 2-0.

 

[ChinkyCandie]

Tokugawa will definitely need a major powerup if he were to go against Medanore. Black Hole would not cut it.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Possible Japan Lineup (Vs Spain)
(Assuming Japan beats Germany)

D2: Fuji/Marui
D1: Irie/Atobe
S3: ???? Maybe Tokugawa
S2:. Tokugawa or Byodoin ( Vs Medanore)
S1: Ryoma (Vs Ryoga)

I am not sure who plays in S3. If Toku will play in S3. Who will face Medanore? I think only Byodoin can match him

We all know Ryoma Vs Ryoga will be climax if the two countries fight.

 

[kaibaman]

Possible Japan Lineup (Vs Spain)
(Assuming Japan beats Germany)

D2: Fuji/Marui
D1: Irie/Atobe
S3: ???? Maybe Tokugawa
S2:. Tokugawa or Byodoin ( Vs Medanore)
S1: Ryoma (Vs Ryoga)

I am not sure who plays in S3. If Toku will play in S3. Who will face Medanore? I think only Byodoin can match him

We all know Ryoma Vs Ryoga will be climax if the two countries fight.

i know Konami will give the match between Ryoma and Ryoga, but Tokugawa vs Ryoga will be a bit more even i still think he would probably come up short against Ryoga, maybe Kintaro can play S3 and Byo will be to play Vs Medanore S1.

 

[Hardy]

i know Konami will give the match between Ryoma and Ryoga, but Tokugawa vs Ryoga will be a bit more even i still think he would probably come up short against Ryoga, maybe Kintaro can play S3 and Byo will be to play Vs Medanore S1.

I don't know if I mentioned it before but I have this crazy theory that Ryoga will be Spain's S2 but refuse to play because he won't face Ryoma like that. After S1 (Medanore vs Tokugawa) the final is decided on the Reserve match (Ryoga vs Ryoma).

Like that Tokugawa vs Medanore is S1 but the final match actually goes to the Echizens.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Assuming Japan will beat Spain in the Finals.

Do you think it is a must for Japan to beat both Medanore and Ryoga in both Singles Match?

Or at least 1 of them will win?

I think Medanore will win against Tokugawa(or any).

And Ryoga maybe will lose to Ryoma

because in Konomi's word " Ryoma is a character who can't lose an official match"

 

[ChinkyCandie]

I predict Ryoga and Ryoma will be the final match of the series.
Regarding Medanore vs Tokugawa, Tokugawa may win. He needs the resolve. He hasn't played since Pre-WC match in doubles. In both the G-10 match and that doubles match, he lost. He needs a win.

 

[Kaoz]

Wasn't this thread about the Spanish players first and foremost? I'd appreciate it if the discussion was more focused on them.

Whenever I think of "what kind of players the opponent could have" I think on how well they would match up against the main team (or, well, the players I expect to play). E.g. Kintarou beating a Ryoma clone (maybe Ryoga's half brother even, lol) and Kirihara matching against someone that is on the same level as Yukimura is now. Maybe that's a good basis for a discussion about what we can expect from Spain.

I agree with this line of thinking, so I understand the need for talking about who might play in the finals, but it should then be accompanied by a prediction of what traits or history a good opponent for that character would have. Without that, it's just a duplication of the line-up discussion thread.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Ok. We are few chapters away from meeting Spanish Players. So, I will update my theory about each Spain Players.

1. Medanore - As I said in another thread. I really think Konomi will make it seems like he already surpassed Volk after the Operation. Unlike Volk, I dont think he will be in S1.(I think it will be Ryoga) So he can win against Tokugawa or Byodoin. Though, I have no idea what the hell will he have.

2. Ryoga - Probably the Strongest Character. (Only Volk and maybe Medanore have an argument). But if Ryoma will play against him. We all know what will happen. I am guessing Ryoga may let Ryoma win cause of Nanjiro. Aside from Consume, we can maybe see some Ryoga's moves in Ryoma Vs Ryoga Non Canon Movie.

3. Spain S3 Player - I think it will be a Middle Schooler. And will probably face Fuji or Atoble. Most likely Fuji for me. Fuji needs to show he can match up to Tezuka. I predict this Spain S3 player is a Genius/Prodigy like Fuji.

4. Spain D2 - i think they will face Atobe and Irie. So I predict this spain duo can also have some x ray vison, or read minds, or any psychic power. Something like that.

5. Spain D1 - Idk who will play for Japan. But I think Spain should have a Power Pair in Doubles. Probably on par with Swiss Randy/Albert.

In Summary for Spain

D2: Psychic Doubles

D1: Power Doubles

S3: Genius/Prodigy Middle Schooler

S2: Medanore

S1: Ryoga

PS: This is assuming Japan will beat Germany. Which is MAYBE will be the case next month.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Ok Now, We Know 3 Spain Players Already.

S1: Antonio De Medanore - Spain Captain. We literally know nothing about him except the hype that "He should have surpass even Volk long time ago if not for injuries"

S2: Ryoga Echizen - We all know He Could be a carbon copy of Nanjiro. And that Consume Ability is OP.

S3: Romeo Fernandez - Based on that glimpse of him. He have an Hypnosis power. And he can do that outside of Tennis. It seems that He can use his Racket to hypnotize people. A 3rd Year Mser. We are right that there will be a strong Mser that will play in S3 I think.

Medanore - ??? (Something Ridiculous I bet)
Ryoga - Consume Abilities
Romeo - Hypnosis and Mind Control

Maybe their doubles players are more normal. Lmao.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Guys, what do you think Medanore's kind of techniques will be?

Being labeled as "Genius Maverick". i predict, he is the opposite of Volk. Volk put emphasis on base and basic form and movement of tennis.

I think Medanore will have more of an unorthodox style. Full of special moves. Kinda like of an Improved and High level version of Fuji.

We only know these things about him: (If i am not forgetting something)

1. He is Spain's Captain

2. He is a pro like Volk

3. He is known as "Would have surpassed Volk long ago if he wasn't injured"

4. Byodoin have something to do in his injury.

5. He is nicknamed "Genius Maverick"

PS: Idk, if I can make a thread about him or just put it in Spain thread. But since Ryoga has, I decided to create one for Medanore too.

 

[Adamska]

Good point being genius means that you can do or perform some Tech or ... that nobody can! (in some difficult situation)
I guess that he did something like that Vs Boss and(while he was injured) make their match had stayed unsettled!
First he was like a Vampire you know a pale skin look with some brutality in his manner, later he was cool during his course of conversation with Tokugawa and looked a little bit serious but friendly too...
So far ,Boss defeated all of his opponents and had led them to give up their tennis except for Tokugawa (with some help) and Medanore! (probably he is the only one who single handed stand Vs Boss )
One common thing about Captains of 4 Teams: they have strong mentality and leadership!

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Good point being genius means that you can do or perform some Tech or ... that nobody can! (in some difficult situation)
I guess that he did something like that Vs Boss and(while he was injured) make their match had stayed unsettled!
First he was like a Vampire you know a pale skin look with some brutality in his manner, later he was cool during his course of conversation with Tokugawa and looked a little bit serious but friendly too...
So far ,Boss defeated all of his opponents and had led them to give up their tennis except for Tokugawa (with some help) and Medanore! (probably he is the only one who single handed stand Vs Boss )
One common thing about Captains of 4 Teams: they have strong mentality and leadership!

Didnt Byodoin lost to Oni years ago????

I am not counting VS Duke, since Byo was injured by literally saving Duke's sister.

But in the current timeline. Yes.

As for Medanore, if Spain is really this strong 3-0 all their opponents. He should really be both very strong, and have great leadership. Based on what I saw so far in spain players, they seems rude and bad.

For ex. Romeo who seems to be a criminal, and can control minds. He suddenly become respectful in the phone talking to Medanore.
Even apologizing to the latter.

Aside from Medanore's base tennis. Do we expect him to have an Aura ala QP or POP, or Byo Aura? Or maybe he will just be like Volk, who doesnt have any aura.

My guess though is he will have. If Tokugawa have Asura path, maybe Medanore have the Indra path.

This may be a hot take. But I assume Medanore right now is stronger than Volk. (Well, he should have done it years ago)

Medanore seems also the only one who have no problems of Ryoga Joining Spain and being a regular immediately. I guess strong appreciate strong

My heart actually wants Medanore to win. A. Pro needs an on screen win in this tourney. Haha. Amadeus lost, Doubles Pro lost, Volk lost.

 

[OmegaTenken]

Didnt Byodoin lost to Oni years ago????

I am not counting VS Duke, since Byo was injured by literally saving Duke's sister.

But in the current timeline. Yes.

As for Medanore, if Spain is really this strong 3-0 all their opponents. He should really be both very strong, and have great leadership. Based on what I saw so far in spain players, they seems rude and bad.

For ex. Romeo who seems to be a criminal, and can control minds. He suddenly become respectful in the phone talking to Medanore.
Even apologizing to the latter.

Aside from Medanore's base tennis. Do we expect him to have an Aura ala QP or POP, or Byo Aura? Or maybe he will just be like Volk, who doesnt have any aura.

My guess though is he will have. If Tokugawa have Asura path, maybe Medanore have the Indra path.

This may be a hot take. But I assume Medanore right now is stronger than Volk. (Well, he should have done it years ago)

Medanore seems also the only one who have no problems of Ryoga Joining Spain and being a regular immediately. I guess strong appreciate strong

My heart actually wants Medanore to win. A. Pro needs an on screen win in this tourney. Haha. Amadeus lost, Doubles Pro lost, Volk lost.

I feel like Tokugawa can lose but still be even more satisfying than Yukimuras loss (). Like, I'm sure Tokugawa has fans but his story isn't about beating Medandore at all, so it isn't needed.

Isnt he also a junior, so he has next year to lead the team from his learning.

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Tokugawa uses black holes.

I'm guess Medandore must either have very fast shots. Or shots that travel to very weird odd remote locations.