Discussion Nanatsu Crossover Battles

[Rax]

Fairy tails earth diameter is around 43500m
Real earth diameter is around 12780m
Meaning fairy tail earth is 3.5 times bigger than real world so at best I'll say fiore is 4× of Spain.
I've already given that NNT god tiers at multi continental and you FT wankers are denying it without any solid proof so I'm not taking that

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They ain't DK and this current chapter even confirms it, DK used mel as a vessel so he wasn't at his full power in fact far away from his full power and even the same meliodas was getting wrecked by the OG demon king in purgatory for 60 years and DK wasn't even trying. Na matter how much you want to deny its not gonna work and in NNT it is already an fact that in a vessel the characters are much more weaker than their original strength

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People saying most FT characters are now etherion level lmao
Etherion just one shot destroys an entire country and here we have August who is the 5th strongest character in the series with his strongest attack can destroy a country

Where are you even getting the size of the planet? I posted CANON proof for my claim, you're just saying a bunch of nonsense without any proof to back it up.

Nobody in SDS is even country level. Britannia is a small country and yet they haven't even do anything considerable to it. Lol.

And no, again, your reading comprehension seems fairly weak.

The gaps between Ars Magia and Etherion is Ars Magia was described to be able to melt Fiore entirely. I shouldn't have to explain the gaps between an explosion Vs straight MELTING of that much mass. Two attacks can have the same level of AoE but wildly different energy yields. The type of destruction is a huge factor in such.

You don't even seem to understand how energy values work

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Where are you even getting the size of the planet? I posted CANON proof for my claim, you're just saying a bunch of nonsense without any proof to back it up.

Nobody in SDS is even country level. Britannia is a small country and yet they haven't even do anything considerable to it. Lol.

And no, again, your reading comprehension seems fairly weak.

The gaps between Ars Magia and Etherion is Ars Magia was described to be able to melt Fiore entirely. I shouldn't have to explain the gaps between an explosion Vs straight MELTING of that much mass. Two attacks can have the same level of AoE but wildly different energy yields. The type of destruction is a huge factor in such.

You don't even seem to understand how energy values work

Canon proof call me when Hiro does that and shows it in Twitter.
As I said Galand was multi mountain and there are characters far beyond him and going by detailed analysis NNT god tiers at full power are easily multi continent level
You are just denying it without anything solid to just saying that they are small country level won't make them small country level without any proof and here tarmiel who is a very weak character compared to the current form of characters is already small country level Lol, and to say stronger characters at the same level as small country is just nonsense and unless you prove me that NNT god tiers are small country level with a solid proof then only I may accept it just saying won't do.
Also Acnologia before Absorbing ROT was feared by everyone and that same Acnologia was said to be etherion equal which one shot destroys a country and still these characters feared him clearly showing none of them came near to etherion level of destruction

 

[Rax]

Show me where he said on twitter the size of the FT planet and its land masses.

Galand chopped off two mountain TOPS. Ikusatsunagi was capable of that and more and he's fodder to Spriggan, who are mostly mid tiers now.

Tarmiel has zero small coutnry level feats. Lol

Etherion wasn't a threat to Acnologia. Even before eating the Space Between Time. The Dragon Cry was capable of wiping out the entire FT continent, which is over 10x the diameter of Earth. And that was literally composed of dragons that Acnologia in human form casually trashed.

You're making up claims and statements.

 

[WoWfan]

If DK wasn’t at his full power then he couldn’t have removed the curse on Elizabeth like he said, if anything, the recent chapters confirmed that he was at full power at the time as he placed the curse back on Elizabeth. Mel was not even using his full power, don’t say he wasn’t, he was even trying to use trickery to save himself despite being at full power.

There are two types of Etherion, one that Wall has and the other one is the MC has, two have different AP, Wall and the other Spriggans are large country (with August, Irene and Larcade stronger) and MC Etherion Mutli-Continent level.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

The thing is that your calcs show that fiore is continent sized and another calc in vs battles wiki shows Fairy tail's earth 's diameter is 43500m which is 3.5 times of the real world's diameter and both these calcs are contradictory like if a small country is continent sized then the whole planet must be hundreds of times bigger than the real planet but another calc shows the FT planet is 3.5 times of the real planet that's why its very confusing on whom to believe.

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Galand destroyed two mountain tops just by his swords shockwave, tarmiel's ocean dimension itself is a small country level feat.
Yes DK placed the curse on Elizabeth back then and the current DK is in purgatory for over a billion years and was already a god in his verse
Look at ban he was absolutely fodder and then he went to purgatory for 3 days and came back as a super powerful monster
And now we have DK who is a god before even going to purgatory and now he is in purgatory for over a billion years clearly itself shows that when he will come to the human world what a beast he will be.
Even if I assume that the DK mel was at full power then why was he beaten by meliodas when the same meliodas was being beaten in purgatory

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The way you guys are wanking FT you may even say FT characters may even beat zaraki kenpachi

 

[WoWfan]

Ban was fodder to DK Mel too, the only reason he was able to get his hits in was thanks to Mel would was fodderizing DK. The reason Mel was able to beat DK was that he was using his awakened powers which he clearly did not show in Purgatory.
Well Kenpachi is country level iirc.

And the length after making a calc of the size of Fiore is 5143 km, so there is a basis for it which is not the size of Spain

 

[BurlapJack]

If fiore is as big as Spain then meliodas wins

If fiore is as big as Antartica then the entire NNT verse gets destroyed and fairy tail characters would be even stronger than naruto and bleach characters which clearly is not

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Characters like acnologia (EOS) is already continent level to multi continent lecelin FT verse and if a small country is like a continent equal then Acnologia is easily large planetary level, but I'm sure characters like hashirama who is the weakest god tier in naruto can easily beat Acnologia

Not true at all acno is no where near that with either calc as he is only unanimously
rated high 6-B which is large country level, see below on his cross-verse battle wiki

Demon king mel mode should be close to that with lowball since he hasn't done anything in that mode yet worth calc-ing higher (currently rated 6-B until further notice on his cross-verse battle wiki)

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Ban was fodder to DK Mel too, the only reason he was able to get his hits in was thanks to Mel would was fodderizing DK. The reason Mel was able to beat DK was that he was using his awakened powers which he clearly did not show in Purgatory.
Well Kenpachi is country level iirc.

And the length after making a calc of the size of Fiore is 5143 km, so there is a basis for it which is not the size of Spain

If fiore is that big then the same way the calcs show FT planet is just 3.5 which is very contradictory.
If you are thinking that trillion dark is his awakened innate power then you are wrong.

Zaraki's shikai nozarashi did cut through an meteor as big as seritei which is country sized and the destruction from such a big meteor could have destructive capacity of a continent zaraki's casual strike was able to cut through that and that was zaraki without eyepatch open and no bankai
His eyepatch released state should be at least making him 10× stronger and bankai another 10× stronger so in other words zaraki's casual sword strike in his bankai state with eye patch open is having a 100 continent destructive capacity meaning his very casual strike would just cut through the entire FT's continent and thats just one strike

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Not true at all acno is no where near that with either calc as he is only unanimously
rated high 6-B which is large country level, see below on his cross-verse battle wiki

Demon king mel mode should be close to that with lowball since he hasn't done anything in that mode yet worth calc-ing higher (currently rated 6-B until further notice on his cross-verse battle wiki)

Well some FT fans show a calc that shows fiore being as big as an continent and going by that logic FT characters are going to destroy NNT verse

 

[WoWfan]

Just like how Fiore cannot be as small as Spain for canon reasons, Awaken power is not a technique, it is a level of strength which Mel has clearly achieved, the meteorite was not as big as Seireitei, would likely cause massive damage though, still not the same level of strength as Spriggan. Again, multipliers are hard to actually judge and they tend to not mean much, he still remains at country level or higher. Kenpachi does not have the range to cut all of a continent, just country level to take hits from a meteorite and destroy it

 

[BurlapJack]

Fiore being continent sized is definitely fan-wank and nothing will prove otherwise

 

[WoWfan]

We’ve done our homework, using facts from the manga itself to give it the results that says otherwise, distance between Hargeon and Magnolia is 370 km, so using pixel calcing, the length of Fiore is 5143 km

 

[Rax]

The thing is that your calcs show that fiore is continent sized and another calc in vs battles wiki shows Fairy tail's earth 's diameter is 43500m which is 3.5 times of the real world's diameter and both these calcs are contradictory like if a small country is continent sized then the whole planet must be hundreds of times bigger than the real planet but another calc shows the FT planet is 3.5 times of the real planet that's why its very confusing on whom to believe.

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Galand destroyed two mountain tops just by his swords shockwave, tarmiel's ocean dimension itself is a small country level feat.
Yes DK placed the curse on Elizabeth back then and the current DK is in purgatory for over a billion years and was already a god in his verse
Look at ban he was absolutely fodder and then he went to purgatory for 3 days and came back as a super powerful monster
And now we have DK who is a god before even going to purgatory and now he is in purgatory for over a billion years clearly itself shows that when he will come to the human world what a beast he will be.
Even if I assume that the DK mel was at full power then why was he beaten by meliodas when the same meliodas was being beaten in purgatory

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The way you guys are wanking FT you may even say FT characters may even beat zaraki kenpachi

You JUST said Hiro Mashima himself said the size, and now you're back tracking. Clearly your grasp on the matter isn't concrete.

Post the calc you're even talking about, because clearly it's not accurate given CANON distances and maps say otherwise.


How is Tarmiel's feat small country level? I remember seeing a calc for it that ASSUMED that the depth of the ocean he had with his power is at least as deep as an IRL ocean, which is silly given it's a pocket dimension with absolutely zero evidence to back such a claim.

Come get me when you're able to actually provide EVIDENCE and links for any of your claims, because so far you've demonstrated that you just read something on another forum and parrot the claim over.

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If fiore is that big then the same way the calcs show FT planet is just 3.5 which is very contradictory.
If you are thinking that trillion dark is his awakened innate power then you are wrong.

Zaraki's shikai nozarashi did cut through an meteor as big as seritei which is country sized and the destruction from such a big meteor could have destructive capacity of a continent zaraki's casual strike was able to cut through that and that was zaraki without eyepatch open and no bankai
His eyepatch released state should be at least making him 10× stronger and bankai another 10× stronger so in other words zaraki's casual sword strike in his bankai state with eye patch open is having a 100 continent destructive capacity meaning his very casual strike would just cut through the entire FT's continent and thats just one strike

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Well some FT fans show a calc that shows fiore being as big as an continent and going by that logic FT characters are going to destroy NNT verse

The speed of a meteor is as relevant to its energy yield as its mass.

Dues Sema was small, but absurdly fast.

Gremmy's meteor was large, but very slow.

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Fiore being continent sized is definitely fan-wank and nothing will prove otherwise

How?

It's CANON statements of distance. How is canon wank?

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We’ve done our homework, using facts from the manga itself to give it the results that says otherwise, distance between Hargeon and Magnolia is 370 km, so using pixel calcing, the length of Fiore is 5143 km

Fiore is around 5,000km from North to South and 6,500 kilometers from East to West

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Just like how Fiore cannot be as small as Spain for canon reasons, Awaken power is not a technique, it is a level of strength which Mel has clearly achieved, the meteorite was not as big as Seireitei, would likely cause massive damage though, still not the same level of strength as Spriggan. Again, multipliers are hard to actually judge and they tend to not mean much, he still remains at country level or higher. Kenpachi does not have the range to cut all of a continent, just country level to take hits from a meteorite and destroy it

Confirmed you're a troll, a wanker and a denier
Seritei is 600 KM in length which should be definitely average sized country and the meteor is a bit smaller than that and the fact that a few hundred metres if meteor destroyed all the lives of dinasour back then it's very clear that the meteor DC is definitely around continent level and the bankai multiplier has already been said in the manga and in guidebooks that they give a 10× power and even if I lowball the eye patch part still the eye patch unleashed one will give 5×.
Which would be still 50× more powerful so it's very clear that at least zaraki can easily cut through fiore 50 times over

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Meteor speed wasn't slow its was fast but zarali reacted fast enough to cut it

 

[Rax]

Confirmed you're a troll, a wanker and a denier
Seritei is 600 KM in length which should be definitely average sized country and the meteor is a bit smaller than that and the fact that a few hundred metres if meteor destroyed all the lives of dinasour back then it's very clear that the meteor DC is definitely around continent level and the bankai multiplier has already been said in the manga and in guidebooks that they give a 10× power and even if I lowball the eye patch part still the eye patch unleashed one will give 5×.
Which would be still 50× more powerful so it's very clear that at least zaraki can easily cut through fiore 50 times over

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Meteor speed wasn't slow its was fast but zarali reacted fast enough to cut it

The Gremmy Meteor was super slow. It never once displayed any speed feats at all and fodder was reacting to it.

Meanwhile, the size of the Seireitei is super inconsistent.

MEANWHILE, you've provided zero panels or links to support your claims. You're the one coming off as a troll.

"Mashima said the FT planet size on twitter." "I saw it on a forum."

 

[BurlapJack]

The way you guys are wanking FT you may even say FT characters may even beat zaraki kenpachi

Some may, but this is about mel vs august and i believe it would be close with mel on top of his og magic extends past demon king suit mode and ignores durability like it has been theorized

 

[Samael Morningstar]

The Gremmy Meteor was super slow. It never once displayed any speed feats at all and fodder was reacting to it.

Meanwhile, the size of the Seireitei is super inconsistent.

MEANWHILE, you've provided zero panels or links to support your claims. You're the one coming off as a troll.

"Mashima said the FT planet size on twitter." "I saw it on a forum."

You're inconsistent and full of shit

Ok as you wish you can imagine that
You don't even know that bankai is 10× multiplier?
Even if I say that the meteor had country level DC scaling from Seritei and seritei is country level so it still won't change the fact that full power zaraki would be 50× stronger than that meaning seritei most accepted size is 600km length so 50 times that is 30000KM and as you said fiore is 6000KM then still zaraki's sword strikes can easily cut through fiore over 5 times
It will easily cut through maybe even acnologia if not then seriously going to injure hum

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Another thing I would like to ask is Anyone in FT is that powerful that he can cause natural disasters just by mere presence

 

[BurlapJack]

Another thing I would like to ask is Anyone in FT is that powerful that he can cause natural disasters just by mere presence

Completely different verse rules,

Not a good comparison

Especially when mel's calamity causing pressence is destruction over time

 

[Rax]

Another thing I would like to ask is Anyone in FT is that powerful that he can cause natural disasters just by mere presence

That's purely a power, not some level characters reach that just auto affects the area. That's a silly thing to try and quantify as a level as if it's a standard.

 

[Arjuna]

Another thing I would like to ask is Anyone in FT is that powerful that he can cause natural disasters just by mere presence

It is a verse rule

Just imagine Goku being casually present in Earth doesn't force the Earth to have natural disasters.

Obviously you won't say Meliodas>Goku.