Shounen Naruto by Masashi Kishimoto

[M3J]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

i wonder why obito and kakashi cant use the big three ms abilities...

... they can. Obito has Kamui that affects him while Kakashi has Kamui that he can use on others. Neither has Susano'o because they need two Mangekyo.

 

[ninjabot]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

So if you're trolling again, let me know. Otherwise educate yourself. Or we can do option 3 and I can just block you, a new favorite of mine on this site as I'm getting tried of a lot of people.

Wait, is it ACTUALLY possible to block people? SHIT! I had no idea!

How? I can think of 4 people off the top of my head that are about to disappear from existence, lol.

On Topic: I'm tired of talking about Minato. Someone change the subject. Let's try to figure out Madara's trump card.

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... they can. Obito has Kamui that affects him while Kakashi has Kamui that he can use on others. Neither has Susano'o because they need two Mangekyo.

He meant Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo. These are considered the big three because Amaterasu is stated to be the strongest Mangekyou attack, and Tsukuyomi the strongest Genjutsu, and Susanoo to be "extremely rare". Well, Tsukuyomi was the strongest until Kotoamatsukami was revealed.

 

[M3J]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

Oh, I know that. But Kamui can be counted as part of the Big MS jutsu as well, although it is not known like Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

How would Kotoamatsukami be stronger than Tsukuyomi? And how are you spelling it right in the first place (if you are)? Cheat sheet? <_<

 

[REN KOUEN]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

... they can. Obito has Kamui that affects him while Kakashi has Kamui that he can use on others. Neither has Susano'o because they need two Mangekyo.

so they cant use tsukyomi or amaterasu because of one eye also?

ninjabot you know you love me and your life would be empty if you blocked me


in all seriousness i have decided to stop minato hyping

it was meant to be amusing not annoying

ill post serious from now on

 

[Rikudou King]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

Then there must be something wrong with your eyes.

Obito doesn't need any hand signs for his ability. It was an instant jutsu. So how come the amaterasu and susanoo's arrows are more faster?

Bleeding of MS is enough as a warning for minato to prepare his millisecond activation of his hiraishin. And the fact that zetsu stated that the air around itachi has been change when he used his amaterasu. So i don't see any reason for minato not to feel that air. Hachibi, danzo and obito sensed something before they were hit by amaterasu, that's enough for minato's hiraishin to bail him out instantly.

I can't believe sasuke's fans keeps on using this "amaterasu's shit" to defeat minato. Come on, minato is the fastest ninja of all time. Its no doubt his hiraishin is much more faster than amaterasu. There's no need to argue about that.

My eyes are fine.

Amaterasu and Susanoo's arrows neither require handsigns either and are just as instantaneous. First off, the bleeding isn't any kind of warning, especially since activating Hiraishin takes longer then a "millisecond". If Minato could activate Hiraishin that fast, Obito wouldn't have nearly caught him several times nor would Ee have touched his nose. Zetsu never stated anything like that, neither did the Hachibi, Danzo, or Obito. None of them "sensed" it before they were hit. And you seem to be ignoring the fact that Hiraishin isn't automatic, Minato still needs to realize the need to employ it before he can actually use it.

 

[REN KOUEN]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

Oh, I know that. But Kamui can be counted as part of the Big MS jutsu as well, although it is not known like Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

How would Kotoamatsukami be stronger than Tsukuyomi? And how are you spelling it right in the first place (if you are)? Cheat sheet? <_<

well sure kamui is strong or formidable

but what i meant was the base three

i consider kamui kotoamtsukami and itachis crows

all unique to the specific uchiha and thus not part of the big three

 

[syx]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

There are no base MS techniques, or better say that everything points out that way. And Itachi's crow has no relation to MS in any shape and form.

 

[REN KOUEN]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

There are no base MS techniques, or better say that everything points out that way. And Itachi's crow has no relation to MS in any shape and form.

i know his crows arent MS i was trying to state that its unique to him

i guess i worded it poorly

itachis crows are his unique genjutsu

and tobis kamui is unique to his eyes

and obviously shisuis haxx genjutsu is unique as well

it would be awesome if sasuke also had a unique sharingan ability

 

[LnDRash]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

There are no base MS techniques, or better say that everything points out that way. And Itachi's crow has no relation to MS in any shape and form.

This isn't targeted at none in particular, but lately it seems to get so out of hand that it starts bugging me...

I always wonder how someone can even come to such interpretations and conclusions... I mean this manga really isn't rocket science. That doesn't even have anything to do with bias anymore... its just flat out wrong. Same as with all those people bitching how Obito is obsessed about Rin... shouting stuff like "why doesn't he simply resurrect her?? lololol stupid plothole!" even though that isn't what motivates Obito at all.

Normally I'd explain that to myself by people not paying much attention to the story and instead just skimming through those 16 pages every week without putting any real thought into it... but when its people with thousands of posts who actually debate and discuss all kinds of aspects of this manga on a daily basis then it really leaves me pondering wtf is going on

Is Kishimoto's pacing and storytelling really that hard to follow and confusing? Because it sure as hell doesn't seem to me like that... whenever something happens he dedicates almost entire chapters just to recap and explain whats going on. Seriously... just look at that Izanami stuff for example... he basically drew us a whole multi page manual with detailed schematics and whatnot and people still manage to misunderstand how that technique works and even what its actually doing.

/rant

 

[Prince Sasuke]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

So where is this block button?

 

[M3J]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

so they cant use tsukyomi or amaterasu because of one eye also?

ninjabot you know you love me and your life would be empty if you blocked me


in all seriousness i have decided to stop minato hyping

it was meant to be amusing not annoying

ill post serious from now on

No, apparently they have different eye powers. Madara also showed no signs of bein able to use Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu... no idea what's going on here, just inconsistencies, I guess.

well sure kamui is strong or formidable

but what i meant was the base three

i consider kamui kotoamtsukami and itachis crows

all unique to the specific uchiha and thus not part of the big three

Why mention Itachi's crows...? It has nothing to do with Sharingan.

 

[Dark blood]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

Wait, is it ACTUALLY possible to block people? SHIT! I had no idea!
How? I can think of 4 people off the top of my head that are about to disappear from existence, lol.
On Topic: I'm tired of talking about Minato. Someone change the subject. Let's try to figure out Madara's trump card.

Fair idea
Well on THAT topic: Madara indicated that his trump can't isn't ready yet... and Then suddenly jumped in and start a fight with Hashirama.
Trump card have Some thing to do with Hashirama ??? or he simply want to do SOMETHING till his trump card is ready ??

 

[REN KOUEN]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

So where is this block button?

your blocking me bro

i though we were nakama

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No, apparently they have different eye powers. Madara also showed no signs of bein able to use Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu... no idea what's going on here, just inconsistencies, I guess.


Why mention Itachi's crows...? It has nothing to do with Sharingan.

i thought it was his unique genjutsu in his base sharingan

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Fair idea
Well on THAT topic: Madara indicated that his trump can't isn't ready yet... and Then suddenly jumped in and start a fight with Hashirama.
Trump card have Some thing to do with Hashirama ??? or he simply want to do SOMETHING till his trump card is ready ??

as ive stated i beliwve the trump is some kind of object like rikudous staff

or some other special artifact, used to help control the juubi

 

[Dark blood]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

as ive stated i beliwve the trump is some kind of object like rikudous staff

or some other special artifact, used to help control the juubi

Then what's the meaning of IT being not ready ???

 

[REN KOUEN]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

i didnt see him say that

he must be planning either a genjutsu or some other method of controlling the juubi like perhaps something to do with hashiramas power

all i remember him saying was "i failed" then mentioning his trump card

i read manga panda but i.could have missed something

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No, apparently they have different eye powers. Madara also showed no signs of bein able to use Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu... no idea what's going on here, just inconsistencies, I guess.


Why mention Itachi's crows...? It has nothing to do with Sharingan.

wasnt madara planning to become juubi jinchuuriki himself and cast infinite tsukyomi?

i would assume he can cast base tsukyomi if he planned to cast it on the whole planet

 

[Dark blood]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

i didnt see him say that

he must be planning either a genjutsu or some other method of controlling the juubi like perhaps something to do with hashiramas power

all i remember him saying was "i failed" then mentioning his trump card

i read manga panda but i.could have missed something

I just re read ithe chapter .. Madara says ...
"He might get ahead of me before i am able to play my trump card"

Now reading the whole sentence may gives us a hint of some kinda genjutsu or some other jutsu (But i ll go with Genjutsu because Madara said that Obito might get ahead of him, in what ?? Casting infinite Tsukuyaomi i guess)

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[REN KOUEN]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

hmm well considering madara probablt has one of the most haxxed ems sharingans ever

i wouldnt doubt that he has some type of powerful genjutsu that maybe he needs to build up or takes time to prepare

or maybe hes waiting for an opening to catch juubito off guard with it

after seeing izanagi and izanami and itachi breaking edo tensei with that damned crow

i will never rule out uchiha haxx

the ultimate fix-a-plot

 

[M3J]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

Doesn't seem to be related to genjutsu, but I dunno.

We don't know if Madara really does plan to use Infinite Tsukuyomi. His personality seems to be destructive, based on how he acted when revived.

 

[REN KOUEN]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

he really was the ultimate edo tensei because kabuto didnt even need to instruct or control hin

not that would have been able to control him

 

[marshall313]

Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12 - Part 1

All of uchiha's trump card has a connection to their sharingan. So rest assured that madara's trump card is some sharingan/uchiha's jutsu. There's nothing new to that secret.