Shounen Naruto by Masashi Kishimoto

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Been thinking about this for a while:

Six Paths Pain v. EMS Sasuke

Battle setting: Pain in formation against Sasuke
 
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Oops, EMS
EMS sasuke takes this easily. Since he now no longer is even limited by the overuse of MS. His shuriken jutsu is as good as itachi, so the connected vision's blindspot he can still exploit. Planetary devastation- he cana void by reverse summoning. Even MS sasuke was giving troubles to kages out there.
Then there is his Genjutsu which pain can be caught upon. Sasuke may realize Pain is just a dead body moving too after intial clash, so at the end of the day, I might say sasuke would win by quite a margin.
Also fullbody sussano as well.
 

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Imo, I think Sasukes flame control is key, as you said he could cover his blind spots and nullify the Pains summoning jutsu. How do you think his Susanoo would fare against a full powered shinra tensei?
 

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Imo, I think Sasukes flame control is key, as you said he could cover his blind spots and nullify the Pains summoning jutsu. How do you think his Susanoo would fare against a full powered shinra tensei?
His fullbody sussano will not budge even a bit from tht. Naruto's 6 tails mode was enough to push him back. FBS would not budge and moreover he would be pushed back as reaction and sasuke's kagetsuchi would attack him. Would give him enough time to remove rods.

Considering the one he used to destroy village, u can say it is several times more powerful, but so will fullbody sussano too which matches the sealed kyuubi size in naruto. MAybe he can push it abit but sasuke's kagetsuchi will immediately be released and after pain uses tht, he will be burnt since he goes numb and can't use it for few mins.

Tbh, good match up would be MS sasuke vs PAIN.
 

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Yeah I was talking about the one he flattened the village with. I actually thing he could do more than that as he still had chakra to fight Naruto, control other pains, and make a mini moon later on
 

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OK EMS Sasuke vs Madara different forms
 

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Yeah I was talking about the one he flattened the village with. I actually thing he could do more than that as he still had chakra to fight Naruto, control other pains, and make a mini moon later on
Naah, not much because 1st of all, when he used tht, all other pains were put to sleep. After using it, it took a time for other pains to wake up and still tendo didn't recover powers. Not favorable when facing EMS who also has FBS too, along with black flames and genjutsu.
Nagato, the 7th pain which had all the powers of previous Pain, lacks mobility which would not go well against person who has kagetsuchi, better tool skills , so he is out of question.

OK EMS Sasuke vs Madara different forms
:lmao EMS sasuke would lose out in all forms against maddy, even against MS maddy too. He was tht damn powerful. EMS madara is leagues above EMS Sasuke pre rikudo powers .
Sasuke would only win against 10 year old child maddy who had just awakened sharingan.
 

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I don't know, the thing about Sasuke is that Kishi would just give him random powerups as needed. Remember Kirrin that one ability that made no sense because Kishimoto apparently didn't know how lightening works? Then somebody must have told him because he never used it again. A pure one time asspull.

Or the bird he summoned to escape because he needed a bird and apparently Kishi got tired of drawing snakes?

So if Sasuke ever had to fight Madara he'd get like an Anti-Madara jutsu or something with no explanation or reason. That's just how that went. His ability set was always whatever it needed to be.
 

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I don't know, the thing about Sasuke is that Kishi would just give him random powerups as needed. Remember Kirrin that one ability that made no sense because Kishimoto apparently didn't know how lightening works? Then somebody must have told him because he never used it again. A pure one time asspull.

Or the bird he summoned to escape because he needed a bird and apparently Kishi got tired of drawing snakes?

So if Sasuke ever had to fight Madara he'd get like an Anti-Madara jutsu or something with no explanation or reason. That's just how that went. His ability set was always whatever it needed to be.
Perfect example would be the bee fight. Bee killed him 3 time but asspull after asspull saved him.

However, if we look at it from a logical standpoint, Sasuke would need the biggest asspull to beat Madara and that's not likely seeing as how OP he is. Plus, what is an Anti-Madara jutsu? The only justsu we've seen that can beat him is Hashirama and wood style, Sasuke doesn't have that.
 

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I don't know, the thing about Sasuke is that Kishi would just give him random powerups as needed. Remember Kirrin that one ability that made no sense because Kishimoto apparently didn't know how lightening works? Then somebody must have told him because he never used it again. A pure one time asspull.
Was used in anime in final fight against Naruto :whistle

However, if we look at it from a logical standpoint, Sasuke would need the biggest asspull to beat Madara and that's not likely seeing as how OP he is. Plus, what is an Anti-Madara jutsu? The only justsu we've seen that can beat him is Hashirama and wood style, Sasuke doesn't have that.
:catshrug Naah, not even tht can beat maddy of 4th shinobi war.
The only ability back then countered madara's kyuubi control was shinsuu senju and we know how much chakra hashirama expanded on tht considering how he was panting and by the end of his fight with madara, even he almost collapsed and fainted.
So, sasuke neither has tht much amt of chakra or experience to match maddy.

And lmao, he is just sarcastically saying tht. Do not take it tht seriously.
 

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Also, we still don't even know Madara's MS ability. MS Itachi without AIDS and blindness >EMS Sasuke too. Sasuke is a smart fighter when we compare to most shinobi, but you see the difference with Madara
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Was used in anime in final fight against Naruto :whistle
He used it was Urashiki too, lol
 

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Perfect example would be the bee fight. Bee killed him 3 time but asspull after asspull saved him.

However, if we look at it from a logical standpoint, Sasuke would need the biggest asspull to beat Madara and that's not likely seeing as how OP he is. Plus, what is an Anti-Madara jutsu? The only justsu we've seen that can beat him is Hashirama and wood style, Sasuke doesn't have that.
Yeah, those were just two examples. My point was Sasuke's skill set was mess.

I don't know what an Anti-Madara jutsu is. Something stupid I'm sure. The real question is would it be more or less absurd than shooting fire into the sky to somehow cause lighting because I think that's pretty tough to top.

Was used in anime in final fight against Naruto :whistle
I'll take your word for it. :amuse
 

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I don't know what an Anti-Madara jutsu is. Something stupid I'm sure. The real question is would it be more or less absurd than shooting fire into the sky to somehow cause lighting because I think that's pretty tough to top.
Loool
 

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Naah, not much because 1st of all, when he used tht, all other pains were put to sleep. After using it, it took a time for other pains to wake up and still tendo didn't recover powers. Not favorable when facing EMS who also has FBS too, along with black flames and genjutsu.
Nagato, the 7th pain which had all the powers of previous Pain, lacks mobility which would not go well against person who has kagetsuchi, better tool skills , so he is out of question.
My point is Nagato still had chakra in reserve after the village shinra tensei, only after planetary devastation was he cooked completely. Also, compare Pain when he did planetary devastation and shinra tensei, more effort was placed on planetary devastation. I think it's fair Tendo pain could do a shinra tensei scaled above what he showed at Konoha. Something in between his moon and Madaras meteor in terms overall gravitational pressure. Of course in doing this all other pains would be deactivated
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I think a fully mobile Nagato could take EMS Sasuke as he can directly counter Amaterasu
 

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Yeah, those were just two examples. My point was Sasuke's skill set was mess.

I don't know what an Anti-Madara jutsu is. Something stupid I'm sure. The real question is would it be more or less absurd than shooting fire into the sky to somehow cause lighting because I think that's pretty tough to top.

I'll take your word for it. :amuse
Agreed to sasuke's skillset always matching the required conditions


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Also, we still don't even know Madara's MS ability. MS Itachi without AIDS and blindness >EMS Sasuke too. Sasuke is a smart fighter when we compare to most shinobi, but you see the difference with Madara
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He used it was Urashiki too, lol
Not sure abt alive itachi with MS above sasuke since EMS practically takes away the blindness + gives FBS. And as for Madara's MS ability , I think he already has Tsukoyomi for sure since normal genjutsu may not work against Ay with the reflexes charged with thunder and near to 4th. He did say genjutsu, but assuming it would be real strong then.
LOL, we don't even know izuna's real abilities too.

And yep, against urashiki too but tht would now be boruto domain

My point is Nagato still had chakra in reserve after the village shinra tensei, only after planetary devastation was he cooked completely. Also, compare Pain when he did planetary devastation and shinra tensei, more effort was placed on planetary devastation. I think it's fair Tendo pain could do a shinra tensei scaled above what he showed at Konoha. Something in between his moon and Madaras meteor in terms overall gravitational pressure. Of course in doing this all other pains would be deactivated
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I think a fully mobile Nagato could take EMS Sasuke as he can directly counter Amaterasu
Wasn't it tht he got ample time to rest and build up chakra, like kyuubi constantly did it during war ? Ok, let's say Shinra tensei + Chibaku tensei = all tht power used in 1 shave.
1- It is nowhere even close to Madara's meteor
2- Sussano can jump too. Sussano can be deactivated too. It also can move at considerable speed too.
The moment he uses tht, sasuke can use his very sussano to throw him up higher in air and then once the jutsu is completed, sasuke during freefall can once again activate sussano and take nagato out.

Fully mobile Nagato is different case. He would pose problem to sasuke for a while.
:catshrug let's not forget sasuke can use genjutsu and make pain feel illusions tht he has already used the jutsu and buy a moment and kill him before he uses it too while he gets ready to use the jutsu. Sasuke is kinda worse match for nagato or Pain..EMS sasuke i mean.
 
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