Shounen Naruto by Masashi Kishimoto

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Regardless, it was dumb to keep Goku and squander Gohan when he could have easily taken up the mantle. Plus, there was a generation who grew up with Gohan as well.
Not really that much tbh, most people who started with DBZ in Japan probably have been reading DB and liked Goku, it was a risky move to kill Goku at that time against Radditz while Gohan was barely introduced

However I do agree that after Cell, Goku should've remained " dead " and not fight against Buu, heck it should've been after Frieza if you logically look at it
 

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Not really that much tbh, most people who started with DBZ in Japan probably have been reading DB and liked Goku, it was a risky move to kill Goku at that time against Radditz while Gohan was barely introduced

However I do agree that after Cell, Goku should've remained " dead " and not fight against Buu, heck it should've been after Frieza if you logically look at it
Trunks would never have come back to save Goku from a virus if Goku died fighting Frieza. That part of the story was pretty nifty, and Trunks was a cool character. But yeah, Goku should have permanently died fighting Cell. I can see how it would have been a downer for the fanbase though - Gohan could never replace Goku. Yet even if they brought Goku back, they should have allowed Gohan to shine instead of declining back into mediocrity.

I know Kishi takes inspiration from Toriyama, but something like this is in the Naruto-verse is pretty... unnecessary.
 
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Not really that much tbh, most people who started with DBZ in Japan probably have been reading DB and liked Goku, it was a risky move to kill Goku at that time against Radditz while Gohan was barely introduced

However I do agree that after Cell, Goku should've remained " dead " and not fight against Buu, heck it should've been after Frieza if you logically look at it
I meant after Cell Saga. I don't mind Goku coming back to life, but he should have stayed dead after Cell Saga while Gohan continued to keep up his strength and even get stronger, along with Vegeta.

Goten and Trunks going Super Saiyan would make sense if they had Gohan/Vegeta to help them. Training with Vegeta would help though, given he'd need more rigorous training during the time skip to get better than the training any Z fighters had prior to Trunks Saga.
 

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Hey I am still wondering Naruto really died or what?
 

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The status of Naruto:

Nope, Naruto doesn't die.
 

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Then what is this commotion about Naruto dying
 

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People just saw naruto taking a hit while saying: "Go! Boruto!" And assumed he took a hit for him and left Bolt to look after things or something. It's just commotion for the sake of commotion.

---------- Post added at 01:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:49 AM ----------

Mannnnn things just keep getting better and better.

Anyway, upon speaking to a friend of mine i saw the movie with. He explained to me how the portable 'scroll' system works. Apparently it allowed the user to use Jutsus that aren't even their own learned element. Bolt's lightning was just a joke of jutsu created by the portable scroll system only. I knew it granted jutsu, but i though one would have to have the aptitude to be able to use that element AT LEAST. So i just assumed it was his element and he used a cheat scroll to do the jutsu. NOPE. Not even his element.

-For those who don't know, it's basically a fusion of technology and ninjutsu. Provide it chakra and the scroll does the jutsu for you, no need for experience or training.

Everyone speculated Bolt had lightning nature since Hinata did, and since the Lightning jutsu was a center for one of his Trailers, but that's a fat lie. Apparently he's wind natured according to the Movie Novel which has character sheets (?).

His mini vanishing Rasengan is apparently his off shot of copying rasenshuriken... Sigh. I was honestly ready to let Bolt be his own character. Now we find out not only does he have the same signature moves as Naruto... he even has the same chakra nature, and i bet Hima is the one that inherited Lightning off her mother. Bolt is getting less and less unique as it goes on. Which is a shame because he had potential to not only be recognizable, but different enough from Naruto so he wouldn't just be 'Naruto's son'. But alas, after learning about this Novel I'm abandoning ship. Sarada carry me.

What i will say is that His personality is very different. Where as naruto was a try hard with no sense of direction. Bolt has always been good at everything his whole life to the point where he stopped trying and just used short cuts to avoid effort. A stark difference in his dad, but now that he's on the same page at the end of the movie i feel as if they are gonna merge into the same gung ho type of person...
 
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Kishimoto has nerfed the shit outa Naruto even though him and sasuke are meant to be rivals. Sasuke retains the sharinnegan and his Sixth path Sage powers, where as naruto only has Kurama Mode left + Sage mode, a bit of favouritism right there.
 

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I think Naruto having Ashura mode is due to him having all the chakra from every tail beast. During his fight with Sasuke he exhausted them all. And Sasuke having Rinnegan is due Kabuto giving him Hashirama's cell. Which he still has. So no wonder he still has Sharinnegan.

I don't see any favouratism there.
 

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Pretty much this. Rinnegan is a transformation, it's not a "mode". Once your eye becomes a Rinnegan it can't "run out" of power. Naruto however only had access to Rikudou Sage Mode when he had access to chakra from all the bijuu. He doesn't have that anymore, therefore he doesn't have Rikudo Sage Mode. He can access it again but he has to go get the extra chakra from all the other Bijuu again to do so.

EDIT: What I mean by the Rinnegan can't run out of power, is that douryoku isn't an outside force, and isn't finite. The same power that activates Sasuke's Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan is the same power that activates his Rinnegan. If he runs out of chakra the Rinnegan will disappear, bu he'll regain it when his chakra is restored. His OWN chakra.
 
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Hmm, ok fair point but I still would have liked to see Ashura Mode been implemented somehow in The Last and This current movie

Edit: Seeing Ashura Mode would also show just how strong the villian they're fighting against is. Momoshiki wasn't that strong IMO, even after the Gaiden claiming they're were beyond kaguya level.
 
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Hmm, ok fair point but I still would have liked to see Ashura Mode been implemented somehow in The Last and This current movie

Edit: Seeing Ashura Mode would also show just how strong the villian they're fighting against is. Momoshiki wasn't that strong IMO, even after the Gaiden claiming they're were beyond kaguya level.
We may see a future arc where Naruto get the power to tele-receive all biijuu, or all biijuu chooses to live inside him permanently.
 

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We may see a future arc where Naruto get the power to tele-receive all biijuu, or all biijuu chooses to live inside him permanently.
All naruto really needs is half each bijuu's chakra inside him, otherwise he'll be too overpowered and that ends the rivalry between him and sasuke.
 

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I have been thinking about when Naruto tele-recieving Bijju's chakra. I have seen many people talk about it that Naruto can receive chakra from any bijuu whenever he want. I think we should remember some instances

1. Naruto's clone against Third Raikage and Madara said he no longer has any bijju chakra left, but Kyuubi chakra that was shared to it appear and hive him every chakra it have. BUt at the same time he cannot receive further chakra from original Kyuubi that was residing in real Naruto for reinforcement any longer.

2. Naruto was given chakra by every other beasts by their own willingness not that Naruto demands it.

3. Naruto was given chakra only once. If Bijuu can give him chakra without touching him they should have given to him after his fight with Sasuke but that doesn't happen. And Naruto is fighting Momoshiki to the verge that he might have died in that fight yet he didn't ask for chakra nor he receive any.


So I think Naruto cannot tele-receive chakra from the beasts, he has to manually receive them.
 

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About Naruto not having Ashura mode anymore, if you think about it Sasuke has also lost an advantage in the fight against Naruto that he doesn't have now: all the tailed beasts captured with Gedo Mazo. They were sitting ducks for him to use as battery power.

Also I wonder if Momoshiki is an inexperienced fighter like Kaguya was?
 

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About Naruto not having Ashura mode anymore, if you think about it Sasuke has also lost an advantage in the fight against Naruto that he doesn't have now: all the tailed beasts captured with Gedo Mazo. They were sitting ducks for him to use as battery power.

Also I wonder if Momoshiki is an inexperienced fighter like Kaguya was?
I am not talking about Naruto vs Sasuke. I was just saying Naruto cannot go Ashura mode on his own. He has to take chakra from every beast manually. And they are not sitting ducks to be use as battery. They are all intelligent creatures and know how to enjoy their freedom.

I don't think they would just sacrifice their freedom would chose to live inside Naruto. And that for what, so that naruto can be stronger than what is needed? LOL I don't think that's logical even for a fanfictions. :hee
 

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" Ashura Mode " is simply Kage Bunshins with Kurama's chakra sorta fusing together, ofc he can still use that
Also the other bunshin was gathering Natural Energy for him

Naruto seems to have lost the ability to use Gudoudama and maybe to heal people
 

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That's not what ashura mode is lol
 

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That's not what ashura mode is lol
Then what is it ? Rikudou's Sage Mode ? Naruto can still use it too judging from his eyes when he uses it
As I said, he only lost the ability to use Gudoudama (no more Bijuu chakra I guess)

Ashura mode if it does exist is simply his battle avatar as far as I'm concerned
 

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Naruto can still use Rikudou Sage Mode...

...but only when he has access to all of the tailed beast chakras. He hasn't met up with the bijuu anymore, so he can only use KYUUBI Sage Mode in the movie. That's why it looks the same, but lacks truthseeker orbs. He doesn't have the chakra natures necessary to create truthseekers anymore.

Not till he gets a boost of chakra from the other beasts again.
 
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