Discussion Naruto's reliance on the Kyuubi

Mzahk · Jun 5, 2010

This thread is about: hard work without a gift is not enough in the ninja world.

Rock Lee is credited to be the hardest working ninja in his generation. Since he wasn't able to master chakra usage he started relaying on the most basic skill that doesn't need chakra: Taijutsu.
He was pushed by his inability to do excel in one field.

However, if we imagine for one moment that Rock Lee were a jinchuuriki. We have two possibilities:
1. He would become a lazy ninja relaying on the tailed beast sealed within him.
2. Because he is a hard working person by nature (I don't know if Kishi made him look like a Chinese on purpose), he would surpass Naruto.

This topic was started in this one:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61057&page=41

And under the request of "Smokes" I moved it to the proper section.

So, it is all about if Naruto managed to do all those achievements, is it because he is a jinchuuriki or because he is just Naruto ?

Kyuubi is a glitch in the ninja world. If Naruto wasn't Kyuubi's host he wouldn't be able to:
1.Perform tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu

2.Perform Rasengan: as we know, one shadow clone halves your chakra reserves so an ordinary ninja won't use a shadow clone until it is a desperate situation: it is a technique used for spying not for fighting:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/315/07/

3.Summon Gamabunta:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/95/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/95/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/95/18-19/

4.Learn how to manipulate wind in no time:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/315/01/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/315/02/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/315/03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/315/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/316/16-17/

5.Perform rasenshuriken:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/321/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/321/10/

6.Master sage mode in no time too (a shown in the anime).

7.Defeat Pain:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/433/06/

All Naruto techniques are kage bunshin based techniques and if you don't believe that kage bunshin weakens the user just chek this:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/122/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/01/

Without Kyuubi, Naruto is just another Rock Lee in best cases.
There is a local proverb I really like "His work will be like digging in water" because it doesn't matter how hard you train, your body has its own limits and thanks to kyuubi Naruto managed to freeze that water.

That's why I am eager to see Naruto fighting without Kyuubi's aid. I want to see the true power of Naruto (who didn't learn how to manage his chakra reserves because he has Kyuubi to relay on).

If you want to talk about Rock Lee as a host feel free to do so but be sure to be back to the main topic.

Paradoxicon · Jun 5, 2010