Semifinal Natsu vs August

[Hermit]

Welll, even if you make the argument that Natsu uses POF, August has his own POF as well

He negates Natsu's POF with his own

 

[Holt]

So basically ur saying is that august>FH zeref?

That's a separate discussion entirely. Imo, if they fought, August would only lose if he ran out of steam. His copy magic will allow him counter Zeref when he uses any attack. Zeref is immortal, he can only be disabled, and yes, I believe that August can pull that off.

 

[inactive lurker account]

As I see it, the only way Natsu can win this is if the power of his feelings cannot be surpassed by the emotional powers of anyone else, a blatantly exceptionalist interpretation that is almost equivalent to saying that Natsu can win if he gets a protagonist-exclusive indefinite power boost. However, if we assume the power of emotions to be something that can be tapped into by anyone given the nature of magic in Fairy Tail, I daresay even August can boost himself with his sheer loyalty to Zeref and the empire... but this is a speculative matter, and I prefer not to appeal to emotional power boosts anyway

Since I'm assuming an optimized interpretation of what August is capable of, Natsu even at his best is outclassed in terms of versatility and magic power unless one takes the blatantly exceptionalist route I mentioned above. As for August's physical stats, I don't know if his lineage and the true nature of his power would allow him to survive attacks that can kill others easily given that he died as a result of his own ancient suicide spell, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for this one.

 

[Zelefomavis]

August wondering why his majesty's child was not loved gives Natsu enough time to activate his flames of Savage emotions. Natsu then one shots August

 

[Am Shegar]

August wins. He is just too much for Natsu. King of Magic.

 

[Valhalla]

Well Natsu uses only brute caster type magic attacks, and such attacks can damage August the same way the wind damages my hair every morning at the bus station. Natsu practically doesn't have anything that can bypass August's hax (well except his savage flames that can burn logic and good writing). So, no, Natsu cant win this. Or can he?

 

[Boomburst]

Welp, you had a good run Natsu. Would have loved to see Natsu vs Irene but oh well

 

[Ice Hunter]

Ohh... thought i will see August VS Irene here.....
August win this match.... i know Natsu is strong but August just above his league. The one who deserved fighting August equally is only Irene...

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

Ohh... thought i will see August VS Irene here.....
August win this match.... i know Natsu is strong but August just above his league. The one who deserved fighting August equally is only Irene...

You might not get disappointed, since it seems(from comments at least) that Irene and August will make it and face off in the finals, so there is a good chance you get your match.

 

[Pheromone]

The King of Magic annihilates his uncle, no contest.

I'm 50-50 that August can copy DSM.

August destroying Cobra, and seemingly taking God Serena's magic is enough of an implication one way.

We've seen August copy all sorts of strange magic, and apart from speculation about nuances, we've no reason to believe that DSM is any sort of wild exception. Particularly not after we've seen him already win against a Dragon Slayer.

 

[BluePegasus]

I can't come up with a single argument that would defend the statement of August not being able to copy Dragon Slayer Magic. It's a Caster Magic, and August's Copy Magic can copy all Caster Magic. It's the truth.

 

[Brandish μ]

We've seen August copy all sorts of strange magic, and apart from speculation about nuances, we've no reason to believe that DSM is any sort of wild exception. Particularly not after we've seen him already win against a Dragon Slayer.

Well it's like you just stopped at the 50-50 part and didn't read the rest...

Anyways winning doesn't mean a thing. He could destory Cana, but he couldn't copy her magic. Think he can win against Acno, since he can probs copy his magic?

 

[Pheromone]

Well it's like you just stopped at the 50-50 part and didn't read the rest...

Just a shorter way to quote, I did read your post. Nothing that really stood out.

Anyways winning doesn't mean a thing. He could destory Cana, but he couldn't copy her magic.

What a weird way to shoot your argument in the foot.

Aren't you the one arguing that Natsu can potentially win because August may not be able to copy his magic?

Think he can win against Acno, since he can probs copy his magic?

We'll never know, will we? Larcade, of all people, was hyped as Zeref's counter to Acno, and Acno himself got done in by a hunk of wood.

Your attempt at reductio ad absurdum won't exactly work here, not in a manga like Fairy Tail.

 

[Ilikeyou]

August wins.

 

[Kay3795]

Can he win against Acno just because he can presumably copy magic? No, not a chance! Even he admits that His Majesty—not him—would require FH which is the equivalent of unlimited power, denoting a obvious limitation of his power.

Natsu actually faced that unlimited powered version of His Majesty whom was power-up even more by darkness/despair ("Emotion" for those that like to spout POF so much like it's the excuse to everything in this manga) & won.

I repeat, August doesn't belong in his class anymore. Uncle will smack him & burn him.

 

[kkck]

Well, given that the manga has shown that natsu's raw power is infinity +1 since he beat zeref's infinite power I am going for him. August can cancel magic and whatnot but against literal infinity+1 power that won't mean much.

 

[Static]

Can't believe people are seriously including PoF and plot armor into a logical power scaling system. :/

 

[Takuan]

What the fuck are you guys saying?! About an Acno vs August fight? ...
August would render Acno's roar useless, since this is still DS magic. So sure, August could cancel Acno's magic. But nobody pretended that August would beat Acno, since even without magic Acno would rip him apart just like he did God Serena.

Saying "if August could copy all magic, i guess you think he could beat Acno as well?", like really, what kind of argument is that. Since when is magicless Natsu comparable to magicless Acno?

 

[Brandish μ]

What a weird way to shoot your argument in the foot.

Aren't you the one arguing that Natsu can potentially win because August may not be able to copy his magic?

Cana isn't as strong as Natsu... unless that doesn't matter... Natsu can win simply because he has an attack that can kill August.

Your attempt at reductio ad absurdum won't exactly work here, not in a manga like Fairy Tail.

I guess I am unfair to extrapolate it out to Acnologia since he's above August, but meh you went absurdly low (Cobra) so I went absurdly high (Acno).

 

[Ebony Maw]

Natsu stops here, August takes it with ease.

Natsu just can't win this without magic, especially since August's CQC is pretty damn good by itself. Add in his immense spell pool and he takes this with ease.