Fantasy Neinhart vs. Nine Demon Gates

[Nemispelled]

Was this whole merging with a tree ever explained, or speculation? Just because Makarov had a heart condition doesn't mean Hades does. The loss of his stopped him from being able to regenerate, but it didn't give him a heart attack.

Wall has stuff like his railgun and fire blasts, which should be able to effect the MBPs. If not, Bloodman can interact with magic barrier particles. As far as Macro goes I still don't think that it would work against Spriggan level opponent, but if it does Bloodman's own should be able to override it.

I can accept that the 9dg have the potential to win if they manage to blitz Neinhart before he summons a Historia. Maybe they can pull it off against a non-enhanced Neinhart. However, the enhanced version has those winds that can give some pretty nasty cuts and is immune to Brandish's magic.

The tree merging is just my speculation based on his physical appearance and aging. I assumed that, while Warrod was trying to populate the deserts he travelled across with trees and forests, the excessive use of his magic caused him to merge with nature.

For Hades, the way I saw it, his heart was a source of life support. So while it gave him power and the ability to regenerate, destroying it would cause his body's condition to go in the exact opposite way.

I don't think the 9 Demon Gates as a collective group are far apart from arguably the weakest Spriggan. It's only been one year since most of the DGs were killed in Tartaros, and they were the strongest opposing force at the time.

 

[Kiki]

I doubt any of 9 Demon Gates can oneshot Neinhart like Base Alvarez Natsu did. Natsu is one of the most improved character in current arc.

I admit there are some good points in the posts above. Now I think it all depends on the initial distance between Neinhart and 9 Demon Gates and the time Neinhart requires to summon Historia. If the distance is far enough and he can instantly summon Historia, he owns this battle. Depends on the thread maker (Doughboy).......

1.Mard Geer Etherious vs Gs - Mard geer takes this extreme hard diff/tie

Is Mard Geer one of 9 Demon Gates???

 

[Miralicious akuma]

Is Mard Geer one of 9 Demon Gates???

he isnt? dammit my bad

well anyways i think i'll still stick with 9dg but with extreme high diff/tie this time. { All the weakened 9DG can do a unison raid to beat gs (?) } Call me crazy but the thing is that i still cant digest the fact that one of the weakest spriggan can over power all the 9dg who were once one of the strongest / feared groups.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

I agree with @Axiomus and @DiMaria Yesta. This really depends on the conditions. If the starting distance is pretty far or Neinhart can summon his Historias before the battle, then...

• Neinhart > 9 Demon Gates [Extreme Difficulty]

Otherwise...

• Neinhart < 9 Demon Gates [Medium-High Difficulty]

In my opinion, Neinhart is around Mard Geer's level. Maybe slightly higher. As for the 9 Demon Gates (combined), I have them near Mard Geer' level as well. So really, this comes down to who has the advantage. In theory, Neinhart should lose this. However, he is different from a regular mage in that he can summon multiple characters to support him.

Now, I don't think his Hargeon Historias are sufficient. He would lose if he summoned them. But the Spriggan Historias should definitely be enough. Wahl, Bloodman, and God Serena are individually above any of the 9 DG. God Serena can take on multiple opponents at once while Wahl and Bloodman defend Neinhart.

 

[Doughboy]

Man there are alot of historias casted so far (GS,Bradman, wahl, Zancrow, keyes, Ur, Ezel, Hades,Ikaruga, Azuma, Kyouka)
but we've also seen that the Historias are significantly weaker so thie matchups can be like

I have historia Mard Geer defeating at least 2 or 3 demon gates by himself. But it's a good point to mention they are weaker. Neinhart can still fight himself too, he has wind magic that he used to attack Brandish and Natsu. Franmalth is getting one-shotted I know that for a fact.

 

[Doughboy]

Wasnt that only when he was enhanced? or did he have that ability all along?

I would say he always had it, the only thing we know of when he was enhanced was Brandish's Command T couldn't work on him.

 

[Jam]

For this battle, Neinhart can use every historia that appeared so far. So yes Kyoka vs. Kyoka, Ezel vs. Ezel can happen. Give me Neinhart mid

You forgot Keyes vs. Keyes

 

[Axiomus]

Still sticking with Neinhart.

I would argue that all of the Spriggans can solo the 9 demon gates. Bloodman alone has the powers of all 9 demon gates, only with Spriggan-level curse power to back it up. Neinhart can make a historia of Bloodman. He has also made historia of Kyouka, Keith, and Ezel. He made them alongside Hades, Azuma, Zancrow, Zancrow, and Ikaruga. That's all just his historia. Neinhart's own magic power was enchanted to the point where Brandish couldn't affect him.

 

[CaptainTorch]

Neinhart got this