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Yeah because the angle was changed on purpose so that we wouldn’t see it. The art shows Mel zoomed in it’s impossible to even see the punch connect but we know it did even though we didn’t see it. This isn’t the first time this has happened. Wild when he was introduced was able to move so fast that we don’t see him sneak up on Mel. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Wild by no means is slow

I’m not assuming it was that attack. It’s literally impossible for it to be any other attack. There’s 3 attacks that the DK launched. Two of them we see wild on the ground watching the fist is the only one that wild did not sit back and watch. If Ban says he shielded Mel from an attack he shielded Mel from an attack
That is your story is just your assumption, zero hint or " shadow " of Wild in that sequence of action.

He was literally looking away and the punch was in Mel's face, you aren't saying that he is fast, more like teleporting fast lol.

It is impossible to be that attack tho, it should be another one that they noticed that he was hurt way after that.
 

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That is your story is just your assumption, zero hint or " shadow " of Wild in that sequence of action.

He was literally looking away and the punch was in Mel's face, you aren't saying that he is fast, more like teleporting fast lol.

It is impossible to be that attack tho, it should be another one that they noticed that he was hurt way after that.
He was looking away when the revenge counter launched. After it ended he has no reason to look away. I mean Gilthunder is able to move as fast as lighting and base Mel is hypersonic. Wild would easily be able to cover that distance. Especially since he can move faster than Mel and Ban can react at one point. Just because you don’t think he’s that fast doesn’t mean he isn’t.

If you’re gonna say it’s another attack then you have to show an attack that goes with Bans comments. But that’s impossible. There were no attacks afterwards that Wild could shield Mel from because Mel was already gone. If Wild took a hit that wasn’t the punch then ban wouldn’t have said he shielded Mel. Any attack Wild took had to have been aimed at Mel otherwise it ruins what Ban said and Ban isn’t a liar. The entire reason you don’t think it’s the punch is because you can’t believe Wild is that fast in a manga where a dude at 3k is already hypersonic
 

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Bruh, how is this debatable? Wild shielded Mel from the DK's punch and both were send up flying. Mel is left unconscious and when he wakes up, Ban says that they were send flying by the DK and that Wild protected him from the punch, that's why he's hurt. That was Ban's response to Mel's question as to why Wild was hurt. It couldn't be more clear, IMO.
 

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He was looking away when the revenge counter launched. After it ended he has no reason to look away. I mean Gilthunder is able to move as fast as lighting and base Mel is hypersonic. Wild would easily be able to cover that distance. Especially since he can move faster than Mel and Ban can react at one point. Just because you don’t think he’s that fast doesn’t mean he isn’t.

If you’re gonna say it’s another attack then you have to show an attack that goes with Bans comments. But that’s impossible. There were no attacks afterwards that Wild could shield Mel from because Mel was already gone. If Wild took a hit that wasn’t the punch then ban wouldn’t have said he shielded Mel. Any attack Wild took had to have been aimed at Mel otherwise it ruins what Ban said and Ban isn’t a liar. The entire reason you don’t think it’s the punch is because you can’t believe Wild is that fast in a manga where a dude at 3k is already hypersonic
But the same action literally happened in the same punch where he was looking away...

Naw, he wouldn't when he isn't looking and the punch is literally at point blank already at the same moment.

It is easily possible as it is plausible with another attack off screen at a different moment.

I aren't believing because:
1) he wasn't even looking.
2) Point blank attack, need instantaneous movement or FTL.
3) No signs of him in that exact same sequence of actions.

But I digress at this point lol.
 

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But the same action literally happened in the same punch where he was looking away...

Naw, he wouldn't when he isn't looking and the punch is literally at point blank already at the same moment.

It is easily possible as it is plausible with another attack off screen at a different moment.
I mean yeah we’re digressing, but like I said I think wild is fast enough to intercept the punch
 
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I mean yeah we’re digressing, but like I said I think wild is fast enough to intercept the punch
Well, if he doesn't look away and if there is space for him to be in between.
 

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Albions vs Baby Indura (the one that fought the holy knights trio and escanor)
Who wins
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Demon king in zeldris (Current 3rd form) vs Demon king in meliodas(the possesed one before ban and meliodas interrupted)

Which one would win
 

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Albions vs Baby Indura (the one that fought the holy knights trio and escanor)
Who wins
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Demon king in zeldris (Current 3rd form) vs Demon king in meliodas(the possesed one before ban and meliodas interrupted)

Which one would win
I think DK zel third form would definitely take down DK in Meliodas before interference
 

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Demon king in zeldris (Current 3rd form) vs Demon king in meliodas(the possesed one before ban and meliodas interrupted)

Which one would win
Current DK in Zel's body takes this without too much trouble. Even before Mel started fucking the DK up from the inside, Ban was still keeping up with him. Current DK Zel should be stronger than Purgatory DK who made Ban look pretty much like an insect, so he takes this hands down.
 

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3rd form DK Zel should take it. I'd put DK Meliodas closer to the level of 2nd form DK Zel, the hench one.
 

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Albions vs Baby Indura (the one that fought the holy knights trio and escanor)
Who wins
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Demon king in zeldris (Current 3rd form) vs Demon king in meliodas(the possesed one before ban and meliodas interrupted)

Which one would win
Current DK is literally himself in his youth body and Original power as the DK.

He takes it.
 

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Yup DK right now is at his young power or basically prime power days as he even said. So the old DK whether hes 100% or not is not in this level of comparison.
 

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It'll be funny when this version of the DK can't kill normal Sins like Diane and Gowther. Escanor will prob be stronger than him too.
 

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It'll be funny when this version of the DK can't kill normal Sins like Diane and Gowther. Escanor will prob be stronger than him too.
Lol, that would be nonsense. Anyway, we already know that they have plot armor and none of them would die.

At best, they will be out of the fight and watch as spectators at the end.
 
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Lol, that would be nonsense. Anyway, we already know that they have plot armor and none of them would die.

At best, they will be out of the fight and watch as spectators at the end.
They'll prob injure him too though
 

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They'll prob injure him too though
Probably but we know that he will dominate them all at the end of days.

Main cast in any franchise, any shonen, all have plot armor. Obviously, despite being the final villain, you will actually never kill them lol.

It is obvious that at the very end, they will all end up as spectators, I see that common trope from miles away.
 

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Yup DK right now is at his young power or basically prime power days as he even said. So the old DK whether hes 100% or not is not in this level of comparison.
Current DK is literally himself in his youth body and Original power as the DK.

He takes it.

So 3rd Form DK Zeldris is stronger than the Purgatory DK? How does that work if Zeldoris' body only contains 50%(the ten commandments) of the DK's power?

1.) 1st Form DK Zeldris vs Assasult Mode Mel (Post-Escanor/Commandments)

2.) Current Base Meliodas vs DK possessed Melodies (No ban interference)


EDIT:

3.) DK possessed Meliodas vs Purgatory Demon King
 
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So 3rd Form DK Zeldris is stronger than the Purgatory DK? How does that work if Zeldoris' body only contains 50%(the ten commandments) of the DK's power?

1.) 1st Form DK Zeldris vs Assasult Mode Mel (Post-Escanor/Commandments)

2.) Current Base Meliodas vs DK possessed Melodies (No ban interference)
1. 1st Form DK Zeldris. He still seemed too powerful for Elizabeth, who should be more or less Prime Mel's equal.

2. DK Meliodas, base Mel seems a lot weaker than base Ban, though maybe thats cause he's got his sacred treasure back.
 

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So 3rd Form DK Zeldris is stronger than the Purgatory DK? How does that work if Zeldoris' body only contains 50%(the ten commandments) of the DK's power?

1.) 1st Form DK Zeldris vs Assasult Mode Mel (Post-Escanor/Commandments)

2.) Current Base Meliodas vs DK possessed Melodies (No ban interference)


EDIT:

3.) DK possessed Meliodas vs Purgatory Demon King

1. Assault Mode Mel probably wins. Not gonna lie, the DK looked weak asf in that first form. Human Eli mocked and even hurt him. Current Mel in Base was slapping his ass while barely trying.

2. DK possessed Mel is slightly stronger than Post Purgatory Ban, who seems to be comparable to Current Mel with the Demon Mark, judging by how him and King are able to keep up against the DK just as well as him. DK wins.

3. Purgatory DK wins going by feats. He basically made Ban look like pretty much fodder in Purgatory, while DK possessed Mel was having some difficulties against him.
 

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Merlin and Escanor vs current Meliodas restricted to full mark version. Time starts at 11.30
 
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