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Sariel & Tarmiel vs Cusack & Chandler
Can go either way with high to extreme difficulty.

I can see the Archangels winning due to them having their graces which synergies really well together, but then again Chandler and his Full Counter is an issue to deal with.

Goddess Elizabeth vs Arthur with Excalibur(no time limit)
Elizabeth.

Arthur has yet to unlock his full powers, and since Elizabeth's magic seems lethal + she can fly = she wins.

Arthur will be blitzing her non stop.
And?

You make it sound like Arthur can rush her and there's nothing she can do.

Hawk Mama vs Wild
Hawk Mama.

Her size wins it.
 

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And?

You make it sound like Arthur can rush her and there's nothing she can do.
Well,yeah that's exactly what I mean.
There's nothing she can really do.
 

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Sariel & Tarmiel vs Cusack & Chandler
Cusack lacks feats. But disregarding that I give the win to the Archangels, mainly because they can strengthen their Ark attacks together.

Goddess Elizabeth vs Arthur with Excalibur(no time limit)
Arthur.

Hawk Mama vs Wild
Wild.
 

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1) Could go either way but I am giving it to the masters with extreme difficulty.

2) Arthur

3) Wild
 
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Sariel & Tarmiel vs Cusack & Chandler
Goddess Elizabeth vs Arthur with Excalibur(no time limit)
Hawk Mama vs Wild
- I see the masters taking it with high to extreme difficulty. They're all in the same range of power for me, but the masters seem to have more versatility overall. Full Counter is a pain in the ass for magic oriented fighters and True Night makes the masters even stronger. As for Cusack, well... he's there with his Mind Manipulation techniques...

- For what we've seen so far, Elizabeth's forte is magic and most of the feats she has done are purification and healing which won't do anything in this battle. The only technique she has shown that is purely for battle is Ark and honestly I see Arthur dodging it. He was able to easily dodge AM Mel and Zeldris's attacks (yeah, they were toying around but still it's impressive). As for his attack potency, he was able to cut Cusack in half and behead Chandler, he didn't do any damage, I know, but it is still goddamm impressive if you ask me. I think Arthur wins this until Eli shows more feats that are not only magic oriented, feats that are related in durability, speed, etc.

- Wild takes it for me. His feats seem to be even more impressive than Mama Hawk's. The dude was able to easily tank a flick from the fucking DK (I know that he wasn't even trying but it is still impressive) and was able to easily dodge purgatory Ban and purgatory Mel who are arguably around commandment tier. His attacks also seem to be pretty potent.
 

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Sariel & Tarmiel vs Cusack & Chandler
Goddess Elizabeth vs Arthur with Excalibur(no time limit)
Hawk Mama vs Wild
Sariel and Tamriel vs Cusack and Chandler I feel could go either way most of the time. Though, we still need some feats for Cusack. The only direct comparison we have is that both duos are worth more than 2+ Commandments individually.

Elizabeth would probably brainwash Arthur, but Arthur should take this outside of that.

Wild.
 

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Sariel & Tarmiel vs Cusack & Chandler
Goddess Elizabeth vs Arthur with Excalibur(no time limit)
Hawk Mama vs Wild
1) They should more or less be in the same league, but i`d say the masters win because they are pretty hax.
2) Arthur wins.
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Elizabeth would probably brainwash Arthur, but Arthur should take this outside of that.
Imagine Arthur drooling over her like Hendy drools over Ludo :XD
 

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When has brainwashing ever worked on anyone with a spirit level on par with Arthur's?
 

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Commandments don`t work on Arthur for some reason so there is a good chance he is also immune to brainwashing.
 

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Commandments don`t work on Arthur for some reason so there is a good chance he is also immune to brainwashing.
Actually, it works on him, there was a misunderstanding when Zeldoris said that his " Piety " didn't react to him, he thought that he was a Human victim of his commandment at the beginning but since his Piety didn't react on him, he thought that he was just a thief.
 

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Chandler has shown versatility but at full power he is just a physical fighter with Full Counter. The Archangels are much more versatile than him. And Cusack has shown nothing besides Resonant

Actually, it works on him, there was a misunderstanding when Zeldoris said that his " Piety " didn't react to him, he thought that he was a Human victim of his commandment at the beginning but since his Piety didn't react on him, he thought that he was just a thief.
Did FKS say that? Because Arthur ran away from Zeldris IIRC and since he did, Piety should have worked on him.
 

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Was that confirmed?
Well, we saw him. Once he transformed his fighting style became totally different. Even if he can use spells, they are probably weaker. The cane was hiding sword, he became much more muscular and was only using physical moves.
 

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Chandler has shown versatility but at full power he is just a physical fighter with Full Counter. The Archangels are much more versatile than him. And Cusack has shown nothing besides Resonant



Did FKS say that? Because Arthur ran away from Zeldris IIRC and since he did, Piety should have worked on him.
He didn't run away, he was transported by Cath.
 

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How does it make a difference? Piety triggers when you turn your back to the holder, his back was turned.
He didn't do it himself from his own will tho.
 

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He didn't do it himself from his own will tho.
I know that. It still doesn't change the fact that he turned his back to him and is not fighting for the Demons, does it?
 
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