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King vs Chandler and Cusack
King vs Zeldris
King vs Ludociel
King vs Prime Meliodas
I also think that King with his Fully Grown Wings is in the 200K range. With the way he stomped Mael and Nakaba making Ludo 201K made it clear to me that he's definitely on that spectrum of power. That being said:

- King loses IMO, he's individually above them but Chandler's True Night is gonna make them a little bit stronger and FC+Resonant+Great Physical Strength are gonna be a pain for someone who relies heavily on magic and whose durability isn't the best. The masters take it with high to extreme difficulty.

- With what we've seen in the last chapter, Zel takes it. King's attacks won't do anything given that Zel has The Ruler which allows him to invert all the damage into healing. Not only that, but Ominous Nebula is gonna fuck him up terribly given that King has a low durability+all of his attacks are gonna get countered. King is probably above him in raw power, but Zel counters him hard.

- With what we've seen thus far, I could go either way. Ludo is probably a little bit below the 4C Mael that King stomped, however he's not a mindless beast and can actually think of tricky ways. Not to mention that Flash would allow him to react and counterattack to pretty much everything King sends him. For now, I'm gonna say King takes it, until we see more of Ludo.

- Awakened AM Mel should definitely be on his range of power or even above IMO+ he has Full Counter, better speed and better dura going by feats. AM Mel wins hands down. The difficulty probably goes up to high, tho.

Current Zeldris vs Demon Mark V1 Meliodas (Post-Revival)
Current Zeldris vs Assasult Mode Mel (Escanor fight)
Zeldris takes both of them without too much trouble going by current feats. However, Awakened AM Mel (post Escanor fight), beats him easily.
 

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King vs Chandler and Cusack
King vs Zeldris
King vs Ludociel
King vs Prime Meliodas
*) King
*) King (For now)
*) Zel (For now)
*) king (For now)

If,
Ludo = P.Mel (mael)

Since,
King >> 4C mael

King > P. mel (High diff)
 

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4C Mael vs Ludoshel
Sunshine Mael(Pre-Noon) vs Ludoshel
 

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4C Mael vs Ludoshel
Sunshine Mael(Pre-Noon) vs Ludoshel
Ludociel definitely wins the first one. For the second one, Ludociel wins most of the time until a certain hour as he said.
 

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Ludociel definitely wins the first one. For the second one, Ludociel wins most of the time until a certain hour as he said.
So Mael can beat Ludo as long as it's 11am-12am or does he only surpass him in The One.
The whole thing is just wired. Mael with one blessing being stronger than Mael with 4 commandments.
 

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So Mael can beat Ludo as long as it's 11am-12am or does he only surpass him in The One.
The whole thing is just wired. Mael with one blessing being stronger than Mael with 4 commandments.
I know right? Also Ludociel being stronger than someone with 4 Commandments is freaking ridiculous.
 

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I know right? Also Ludociel being stronger than someone with 4 Commandments is freaking ridiculous.
You're forgetting that Estarossa's base was much weaker in comparison to Ludoshel's and I doubt even when he recovered his identity as ''Mael'' did his PL increase much.

I'm also expecting that a Goddess absorbing an element foreign to their body will reduce the amount of PL given in comparison to a Demon doing the same thing.
 

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Base Estarossa vs Base Meliodas (Post Revival/Pre-AM)
3C Estarossa vs Demon MarK Meliodas (Post Revival/Pre-AM)
Sunshine Mael (11:50am) vs Rudociel
Emotions Mel (Purgatory) vs Diane, Ban, Merlin, Gowther
 

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Seen a lot of people say Mel is DK tier+ so:

Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs 5C Meliodas
Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs DK
Prime Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
5C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
10C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
 

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Base Estarossa vs Base Meliodas (Post Revival/Pre-AM)
3C Estarossa vs Demon MarK Meliodas (Post Revival/Pre-AM)
Sunshine Mael (11:50am) vs Rudociel
Emotions Mel (Purgatory) vs Diane, Ban, Merlin, Gowther
Base Meliodas
3C Estarossa
Mael
If it’s Meliodas using his Original power, Meliodas stomps.
 

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Base Estarossa vs Base Meliodas (Post Revival/Pre-AM)
3C Estarossa vs Demon MarK Meliodas (Post Revival/Pre-AM)
Sunshine Mael (11:50am) vs Rudociel
Emotions Mel (Purgatory) vs Diane, Ban, Merlin, Gowther
Estarossa will win due to full counter being a strong tool against Meliodas.

3C-Estarosaa

Not Meliodas.

Seen a lot of people say Mel is DK tier+ so:

Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs 5C Meliodas
Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs DK
Prime Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
5C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
10C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
5C-Meliodas.

Every encounter Meliodas gets trashed besides 10C
 

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Estarossa will win due to full counter being a strong tool against Meliodas.

3C-Estarosaa

Not Meliodas.



5C-Meliodas.

Every encounter Meliodas gets trashed besides 10C
Lol nope, the DK get trashed like his arm lmao.

Try again.

I laughed at 5C Mel being even relevant here against that OG magic power, what he will do to not be hakai-ed like the DK? Nothing lol.
The downplay is real with you when it comes to Mel's OG power and his power in general.
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Seen a lot of people say Mel is DK tier+ so:

Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs 5C Meliodas
Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs DK
Prime Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
5C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
10C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
1) Easily Emo Mel with OG Magic, too hax and too much for a mere 5C that can't even affect the world lol. By feat too, it is easily above.
2) Could be either way, going with Emo Mel since he can literally hakai him into oblivion as showed in the manga.
3) Same like 2.
4) Mel without trouble at all.
 
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Lol nope, the DK get trashed like his arm lmao.

Try again.

I laughed at 5C Mel being even relevant here against that OG magic power, what he will do to not be hakai-ed like the DK? Nothing lol.
The downplay is real with you when it comes to Mel's OG power and his power in general.
 

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Seen a lot of people say Mel is DK tier+ so:

Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs 5C Meliodas
Emo Meliodas with OG Magic vs DK
Prime Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
5C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
10C Meliodas with OG magic vs DK
He wins with 10C.
Loses every other round.
 

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Prime Meliodas vs Escanor "The One"
 

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Prime Meliodas vs Escanor "The One"
Hakai lol.

Mel one shot him like he one shooted the DK's arm.

Without it, he still beat him as showed that he could makes Mael run away from a fight without his OG godly magic.

He was playing around during the all fight against Escanor as usual. But we knew that it was for the plot.
 
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