I need some panels with your first claim, no douby she has speed with her as she is a flying type, but just because she is above glox doesn't mean much, as mel at 56k was blitzing him...
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), I don't think she stands any chance against Mel despite having a similar PL to him and I will explain why:
Eli could have an innate magic on Mel’s level. Not impossible. Fights, reaction, durability, action, skill, etc are rarely as simple as fans “vs” discussions make them into. Even so, I have little skepticism to Mel’s ability over Eli. Mel is strong.Oh, look at that. After some time of not viewing this forum, I scroll down to the section of versus and I see a Mel vs Eli all over again. Guess that old habits never die after all
Jokes aside. Goddess Eli could very well have a similar PL to 2nd DM Mel, specially with her eight wings of light which allowed her to push back the Induras (creatures that were tanking without any problems attacks from Ludo in his OG Body) and everyone away. Not to mention that Mel was wary with those creatures and he didn't stop Eli to go against them (since he's so overprotective over her this can only mean that he was sure that Eli could at least handle them). Her wings are also just as big as Ludo and Mael's (the later making a statement comparing her power to 2nd DM Mark Mel and Ludo). At this point it's hard to believe that Eli is far below those levels of power in her Goddess Body. However and before some fanboys jump the gun on me (I see you sobreno
First of all, with the feats she has shown until now, it's pretty safe to assume that 90% of her PL is magic. We also know that her attacks are pretty straightforward, like Let There Be Light which consist of drills of light coming directly on you. We don't have too much info about her physical capabilities, durability and speed, but it's obvious that she should be way below Mel in all of these, IMO. Add FC in the equation and you have all of Eli's magical attacks getting FC and Mel beating her easily in close combat. That's not even counting his OG Magic that allows him to destroy the arm of someone like the DK (with that she would definitely be stomped, no matter how you look at it).
Problem with Full Counter is that whilst its very effective against magical opponents its limitations lie in the fact that it's not a perfect defence by any stretch and this has been proven multiple times by how one can trick, outmanoeuvre or simply overpower a FC user in multiple ways.
Pretty sure Ruby Shine is a Flash move
Lmao, and you think that someone like that damsel in distress can trick and outmaneuver FC lol.
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You are assuming a lot but still doesn't prove a proof that she can actual fight and beat a single TC like Galand for example.Oh, look at that. After some time of not viewing this forum, I scroll down to the section of versus and I see a Mel vs Eli all over again. Guess that old habits never die after all
Jokes aside. Goddess Eli could very well have a similar PL to 2nd DM Mel, specially with her eight wings of light which allowed her to push back the Induras (creatures that were tanking without any problems attacks from Ludo in his OG Body) and everyone away. Not to mention that Mel was wary with those creatures and he didn't stop Eli to go against them (since he's so overprotective over her this can only mean that he was sure that Eli could at least handle them). Her wings are also just as big as Ludo and Mael's (the later making a statement comparing her power to 2nd DM Mark Mel and Ludo). At this point it's hard to believe that Eli is far below those levels of power in her Goddess Body. However and before some fanboys jump the gun on me (I see you sobreno
First of all, with the feats she has shown until now, it's pretty safe to assume that 90% of her PL is magic. We also know that her attacks are pretty straightforward, like Let There Be Light which consist of drills of light coming directly on you. We don't have too much info about her physical capabilities, durability and speed, but it's obvious that she should be way below Mel in all of these, IMO. Add FC in the equation and you have all of Eli's magical attacks getting FC and Mel beating her easily in close combat. That's not even counting his OG Magic that allows him to destroy the arm of someone like the DK (with that she would definitely be stomped, no matter how you look at it).
Yes, I remember. She was also in human form, which is arguably much weaker. I don't agree with the notion that Elizabeth was superior to Holy War Meliodas but I also disagree with Elizabeth being afraid as an argument in this context.
false equivalence. that literally doesn't correlate to anything what the context was in that line. But keep strawmanning.
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actually merlin states that elizabeth before they fought mael was already at her full power (i.e when she was a goddess)
You talk like she can defeat alone a single foe when she is nowhere near the level of a true fighter lol.
Where she said that lol, she said at her current level which doesn't imply that she has more.
elizabeth implies that even before the holy war began?? the time she stated that was meliodas was still regressing to his old powers and was not awakened yet. So completely different than what merlin said in chapter 258-259
But I never said that she would be able to challenge Meliodas? Are you sure you read my post right?
This is an ongoing story right?Clearly nothing contradicted her statement later down in the future chapters after this.
Off guard?She was literally facing Derriere.
If he stands completely stationary and refuses to use Fullcounter,sure.