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Seeing the PLs so far... I get the impression that escanor's power could easily be within the hundreds of thousands. We have seen estarosa's stats. 3000 magic, 53000 strength and 4000 spirit. For one thing, we saw escanor being able to land a hit with Rhita and estarosa could not even see it. So escanor easily, and probably vastly, outclasses estarosa in the strength department. At worst escanor is several thousand points ahead of estarosa in that regard. And then we have magic.... Escanor has the actual power of the sun behind him. I honestly do not expect escanor's magic to be less than his strength at this point. If anything it wouldn't be weird that his magic was even higher than his strength. Escanor is a freaking monster....
Probably. I think the reason why Nakab left his power level at "unmeasurable" is because he's trying to say that Escanor is as strong as he needs to be for the sake of moving the plot along. Plus I think Escanor will never lose a serious fight, just because of the fact that his pride cannot be allowed to be damaged or he'll be a lame character.
 

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Probably. I think the reason why Nakab left his power level at "unmeasurable" is because he's trying to say that Escanor is as strong as he needs to be for the sake of moving the plot along. Plus I think Escanor will never lose a serious fight, just because of the fact that his pride cannot be allowed to be damaged or he'll be a lame character.
The next plot device we will see to make escanor interesting is seeing him fight nearing sunset and his strength decreasing as he struggles to win before he runs out. Odds are that the moment the sun sets he transforms into his very weak form. That said, escanor is without a doubt the strongest creature in the manga and by far at that. Estarosa's strength is greater than the power escanor had when he faced galan and even then escanor managed to power up to easily beat him in absolutely every regard. Well, it is possible that escanor's strength is greater than his magic but even then the situation is ridiculous. We saw that galan's and meliodas' strength barely moved rhitta but escanor at 50k pl can easily do so. Basically 28k is not enough to move that. That would mean that escanor's strength when he was at 50k made about the bulk of his power and the rest was divided between his magic and spirit. Of course, his power does increase vastly from that point by merely exerting himself. Odds are that the 50k we saw at that point is escanor with as much restraint on his power as he plausibly could.
 

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The next plot device we will see to make escanor interesting is seeing him fight nearing sunset and his strength decreasing as he struggles to win before he runs out. Odds are that the moment the sun sets he transforms into his very weak form. That said, escanor is without a doubt the strongest creature in the manga and by far at that. Estarosa's strength is greater than the power escanor had when he faced galan and even then escanor managed to power up to easily beat him in absolutely every regard. Well, it is possible that escanor's strength is greater than his magic but even then the situation is ridiculous. We saw that galan's and meliodas' strength barely moved rhitta but escanor at 50k pl can easily do so. Basically 28k is not enough to move that. That would mean that escanor's strength when he was at 50k made about the bulk of his power and the rest was divided between his magic and spirit. Of course, his power does increase vastly from that point by merely exerting himself. Odds are that the 50k we saw at that point is escanor with as much restraint on his power as he plausibly could.
Well estarossa's 50k strength managed to kick escanor while he was holding rittah to air so i guess u atleast beed 40k strength to move it
 
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Do you know meliodas's power after he use that demonic thing
He was able to 1vs1 dolor who has 36500 Str. And 1vs1 glox who has 47000 magic!! It could be the same for zeldris if he wanted to fight dolor and glox.
It also means meliodas is strong enough to kill one of them if he wanted to... and fight zeldris if he wanted to...
Based on pl, i think glox is able to win in a 1vs1 against most of the TC
 

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Do you know meliodas's power after he use that demonic thing
He was able to 1vs1 dolor who has 36500 Str. And 1vs1 glox who has 47000 magic!! It could be the same for zeldris if he wanted to fight dolor and glox.
It also means meliodas is strong enough to kill one of them if he wanted to... and fight zeldris if he wanted to...
Based on pl, i think glox is able to win in a 1vs1 against most of the TC
Mel only used his physical strength against them so most likely his pl would be a little bit lower than estarossa
 

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I just Realized now,that gowther is/could be the strongest person in this manga. Invasion is beginning to look more and more scary. Commandment gowther really is going to be something crazy.
 

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I just Realized now,that gowther is/could be the strongest person in this manga. Invasion is beginning to look more and more scary. Commandment gowther really is going to be something crazy.
Nah.

As seen with current Gowther he's useless if none of the arrows can hit their opponents.

His battle with Escanor when he tried to put some distance between them, and was blitzed and got his glasses taken shows you can easily overcome his hax if your strong enough.

Or when they were standing off and Escanor could have oneshotted him and chose not too.

He can still clearly be beaten by brute strength.

As for Escanor why do some think he's in the hundreds of thousands?

His physical strength is obviously a couple thousand above estarossa's 53k by the end of their fight as evidenced by the fact that Escanor became to fast for estarossa to even process anymore.

His magic is slightly above 3k, why would it be equal to his strength? He only overtook estarossa in terms of magic at the last second.

Spirit is impossible to guess.

That doesn't put him anywhere even approaching 100,000k

As for Rhitta it takes about 27k for Mel to only be able to drag it while whining.

Escanor was still able to lift is one handed somehow in his night form 28k power level form.

Clearly a inconsistency. No way we can determine how strong you have to be to lift it.

And yeah I'm starting to think Escanor might never lose a fight straight up.

He might just get trolled out of a win at least one though.
 

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Why couldn't it? Zeldris and Estarossa are at 60,000.
And again, Meliodas withstood Gloxinia's Basquias without a scratch and easily overpowered both Dolor and Glox in all aspects. Physical strength doesn't make you immune to everything.

Besides, if his darkness power increases, so should his magic.
Meliodas Pl could not be around 60k. I'm just being logical. Zeldris seemed to be physically stronger than Meliodas a bit, so Meliodas strength stat had to be less than 50k and is magic isn't supposed to be high if we take estarossa stats,which is a reflection of mel's into consideration.

Meliodas withstanding basquias beam doesn't necessarily have to with his Pl. It just shows how durable he is. Look at gloxinia for example. He has 0 strength but was able to survive several hits from meliodas.

Plus,the darkness power very likely doesn't have to do with the magic stat. If it did then estarossa being able to block out escanor's mini sun makes would maker zero sense. If anything i'd say the darkness strength reflects on the the total power a demon possesses
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Nah.

As seen with current Gowther he's useless if none of the arrows can hit their opponents.

His battle with Escanor when he tried to put some distance between them, and was blitzed and got his glasses taken shows you can easily overcome his hax if your strong enough.

Or when they were standing off and Escanor could have oneshotted him and
chose not too.

He can still clearly be beaten by brute strength.

As for Escanor why do some think he's
in the hundreds of thousands?

His physical strength is obviously a couple thousand above estarossa's 53k by the end of their fight as evidenced by the fact that Escanor became to fast for
estarossa to even process anymore.

His magic is slightly above 3k, why would it be equal to his strength? He only overtook estarossa in terms of magic at the last second

Spirit is impossible to guess.

That doesn't put him anywhere even approaching 100,000k

As for Rhitta it takes about 27k for Mel to only be able to drag it while whining.

Escanor was still able to lift is one handed somehow in his night form 28k power level form.


Clearly a inconsistency. No way we can determine how strong you have to be to lift it.


And yeah I'm starting to think Escanor might never lose a fight straight up.

He might just get trolled out of a win at least one though.
That's 3100 gowther. Gowther with his commandment power level should be able to keep up with other commandments and Escanor in speed and strength to a certain point. With an increase in his power level,gowther can take anybody out.

Regarding escanor,there's no way his magic stat is around 3000. That doesn't make any sense,it's so ridiculous. Just like I said before the strength demons darkness has to be unrelated to their magic power/stat. 3000 magic power can't kill/shouldn't even phase the strongest commandments
 

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Meliodas Pl could not be around 60k. I'm just being logical. Zeldris seemed to be physically stronger than Meliodas a bit, so Meliodas strength stat had to be less than 50k and is magic isn't supposed to be high if we take estarossa stats,which is a reflection of mel's into consideration.

Meliodas withstanding basquias beam doesn't necessarily have to with his Pl. It just shows how durable he is. Look at gloxinia for example. He has 0 strength but was able to survive several hits from meliodas.

Plus,the darkness power very likely doesn't have to do with the magic stat. If it did then estarossa being able to block out escanor's mini sun makes would maker zero sense. If anything i'd say the darkness strength reflects on the the total power a demon possesses
The only time we have seen a confrontation between mel and zeldris was when they met at vaizel and to be fair meliodas was just out of his fight with dolor and gloxinia. I am not so sure that this would be a fair comparison of their strengths.

I agree in that there probably are other aspects to consider in regards to how resistant someone is. I think magic can also be used to withstand damage so to speak. Magic users like king have shown great speed and endurance so far so the idea that magic can make up for strength makes sense.

I also think the darkness power is more physical than magical. merascylla and all the commandments were able to use their darkness when they had no magic power to speak of. I think the darkness itself works more like a limb than a spell.
 

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The only time we have seen a confrontation between mel and zeldris was when they met at vaizel and to be fair meliodas was just out of his fight with dolor and gloxinia. I am not so sure that this would be a fair comparison of their strengths.
Meliodas didn't exert himself much. Prior to his battle with the Tc,he looked in good condition to me.

I agree in that there probably are other aspects to consider in regards to how resistant someone is. I think magic can also be used to withstand damage so to speak. Magic users like king have shown great speed and endurance so far so the idea that magic can make up for strength makes sense.
Could be or it's just that fairies have some level of resilience. So far it's only humans who've been shown to have terrible durability.

I also think the darkness power is more physical than magical. merascylla and all the commandments were able to use their darkness when they had no magic power to speak of. I think the darkness itself works more like a limb than a spell.
True,the darkness has nothing with magic and is more or less like a body part.
 

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People don't like Escanor's slightly higher than 3k magic stat.

May not make sense, but that's still what Nakaba has decided on.
 

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People don't like Escanor's slightly higher than 3k magic stat.

May not make sense, but that's still what Nakaba has decided on.
I didnt even like the fact that estarossa had 3k magic i even hoped he'd learn a more original ability but what can he do with 3k magic ? I hope that these pl are not there full power like seriously estarossa have 3k magic -_- even galan should have more than 1000
If not then estarossa better be dead he's usless
 

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People don't like Escanor's slightly higher than 3k magic stat.

May not make sense, but that's still what Nakaba has decided on.
I think you mean estarosa.
 

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I think you mean estarosa.
Nope.

Escanor's magic power didn't surpass estarossa's until 11:00-11:30.

Which means he's slightly higher than 3k.
 

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Well escanor's pl is unmeasurable the magical eye cant measure it
 

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Well escanor's pl is unmeasurable the magical eye cant measure it
Of course it can be measured.

Nakaba just wants to prolong the hype and clearly only intends to give a breakdown of his peak most likely.
 

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I wonder what makes it unmeasurable? Perhaps the eye can only detect strength magic and spirit within a certain range of numbers?
 

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The power of plot. And trollNakaba.
Hey, you never know. Last time we doubted the Sun King's powers, he obliterated two guys with power levels in the 60Ks
 

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Yeah it obviously a troll and nakaba probably said that so his power level could fit the plot and so he could literally face any opponent because we don't know what the true extent of his power is and nakaba doesn't want us to know so we Don't call bullshit if he beats a being of immense power. Um measurable aka plot device/trolling.
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If we take ummeasurable literally then don't get your hopes up for the demon king or 4 great angels or whoever controls the goddess clan because if their still bound by Pl and his is literally unmmeasurable then there won't be a plot and conflict in the series because escanor will just beat them at noon. So I would no take that literally.
 
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