Official webtoon translation makes it very clear without a doubt..

[Ray Barracuda]

V cannot gauge Urek , like at all.


Let's look at it step by step, i'll even try to remove my bias to make it clear as day.


evidence 1:

First thought confirms it through and through.

Makes it clear here that he thought if he were closer to his prime he'd have the power to suppress both Urek and Gustang combined which is pure delusion.

evidence 2:

Then the moment he saw Ureks speed, he revised his statement.

Which got us this.

evidence 3:

All three of V's evaluation come from whatever display of power Urek is currently using against him, it's not coming from feeling the depth of his sea like Baam did with Dumas for example.


The prime that V cucked himself to of being unsure he could beat was the Urek that displayed a little more power and speed than what he thought was possible of both times before.



From the most non biased standpoint possible due to current evidence, it is genuinely impossible to scale V, either current or Prime as anywhere near Urek.

you'd have to conveniently disregard the step by step processes laid out for us here of where his judgement comes from and say that it somehow doesn't mean anything, conveniently speaking so mind you.


Scaling V to Urek is unconsolidated wank with actual active proof that points to the reverse situation being more than likely.

 

[arrowofsky]

I believe V(iole), fair and square, gauged Urek to be stronger than even in his prime, and at the first SS he was just a bit of excusing his current low state, rather than being in a delusion.
Urek should be stronger than FHs by the lore, how he blitzed through the tower (albeit he did it after FHs initially cleared the mess a lot), and that he was already stronger than the guardian of "rice pot" etc. If things to come to the arm wrestling or old school fist fight, Urek definitely wins. V, other FHs or a combination of them only have a chance if they play their cards strategically and manage the brute force of Urek. That's why, I personally scale them to be not so different (Urek > V prime, but not Urek >> V prime), because fighting involves more than raw power.

This is not too important though, I doubt we will ever see V prime. Would you like to or expect to see V prime somehow reincarnated separately from Baam and be a formidable, significant character?

 

[Ray Barracuda]

I believe V(iole), fair and square, gauged Urek to be stronger than even in his prime, and at the first SS he was just a bit of excusing his current low state, rather than being in a delusion.
Urek should be stronger than FHs by the lore, how he blitzed through the tower (albeit he did it after FHs initially cleared the mess a lot), and that he was already stronger than the guardian of "rice pot" etc. If things to come to the arm wrestling or old school fist fight, Urek definitely wins. V, other FHs or a combination of them only have a chance if they play their cards strategically and manage the brute force of Urek. That's why, I personally scale them to be not so different (Urek > V prime, but not Urek >> V prime), because fighting involves more than raw power.

Super doubtful of it still ngl.

He said "right now" when referring to being able to handle both Urek and Gustang.

It's an excuse, sure this is valid but it's definitely delusion considering he got proven wrong two times after.

He couldn't believe Urek could be that fast either.

Can't see it at all that this was an exchange of gauge between two potential euqals, it was purely a one sided evaluation where one person had to retract his statement three times in one chapter.

Do you know how wild that is?


Mind you, from Urek's point of view there's zilch that he believes V to be a strong potential opponent, he literally handed him the kids glove treatment where he's trying to be as lenient as possible.


When two people are meant to be equals or something like that, there's always, ALWAYS a double mutual form of respect in admittance of the other's power.


One sided glazing/evaluation is not how it's done.

This is not too important though, I doubt we will ever see V prime. Would you like to or expect to see V prime somehow reincarnated separately from Baam and be a formidable, significant character?

Nah, I'm sure a prime V will return in some form or the other even if temporarily.

Might also not be Urek that stops him either but Baams will or something like that, God i pray it's the latter, Baam really needs a mighty upgrade in terms of will and determination.

 

[arrowofsky]

Super doubtful of it still ngl.

He said "right now" when referring to being able to handle both Urek and Gustang.

It's an excuse, sure this is valid but it's definitely delusion considering he got proven wrong two times after.

He couldn't believe Urek could be that fast either.

Can't see it at all that this was an exchange of gauge between two potential euqals, it was purely a one sided evaluation where one person had to retract his statement three times in one chapter.

Do you know how wild that is?

V just opened his eyes to the actual world for several minutes at that time, and before V was [supposedly] commited suicide, he was among the best/strongests. Hence, I can forgive him being startled with Urek's unexpected power. At the end of that chapter, V completely acknowledges Urek anyway. It was a one-chapter length learning progress for him

 

[Ray Barracuda]

V just opened his eyes to the actual world for several minutes at that time, and before V was [supposedly] commited suicide, he was among the best/strongests. Hence, I can forgive him being startled with Urek's unexpected power. At the end of that chapter, V completely acknowledges Urek anyway. It was a one-chapter length learning progress for him

Yeah but that's my point, the acknowledgment when it eventually came still arrived from a point of a "current display".


Not the complete evaluation of a person's sea.



It's like when Hell Joe for example believed himself to have completely surpassed Urek based on whatever a lax Urek displayed for him on the FOD that many years ago.


Yes yes, i know the comparison is disrespectful as fuck but hope you see where I'm coming from here.

 

[Lonatian]

I feel that V's comparison of other people's strength based on his strength (prime V) is too arrogant and not objective.
1. When he was alive, the strongest people in the tower were the administrators and 13 GWs. They had no rivals in the tower.
2. He died thousands of years ago. After all that time, the world has changed a lot. Now, even if he met Enryu or Phanta, he would think the same.

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V would be like other GWs, they basically really see themselves as superior beings.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Urek is stronger than prime V but I don't think the gap is that big. If urek is 100 then V is 90-95.