Registered User有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
- Apr 28, 2008
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This is not something new. The same happened against Kalifa.
Who died because of Sanji's goofiness?As a One Piece fan I'm upset that Sanji continues to fall for the same trap over and over again. This whole idea that people are dying because of Sanji's goofiness mid-war needs to stop. Nami and Ussop survived devastating headbutts from Ulti, Robin can handle herself, X Drake already swore to protect Chopper.
Okay, my father taught me many good things, but let's assume he believes females are inferior to men in everywhere from intelligentce all the way to worth.Calm down. Didn't call your argument stupid. Have you tried to see it this way: Zeff taught him red leg style, and that he should never hit women with it. That's his father figure, that saved his life. To renounce that way which he was brought up, would be like to renounce a part of himself, and he would end up not being Sanji. Imagine if someone gave you to choose: renounce your parents or die. Somethings are worth dying for, otherwise life would be a shallow place
And if you read my previous posts, I did say that.This is not something new. The same happened against Kalifa.
I see your point now. You're absolutely right. I apologise for having disagreed with you, and not having aknowledged that this value of Sanji, as you mentioned again, is stupidOkay, my father taught me many good things, but let's assume he believes females are inferior to men in everywhere from intelligent all the way to worth.
If I decide to not acknowledge this belief of his anymore, does that make me shallow? No, it makes me a better person than my father.
If renouncing family means I can save the life of people I care, I would renounce them.
Let's not forget how stupid this value of Sanji is.
If a principle or value result in a meaning less death, that value and principle the way that individual understands it is stupid.
I like how you're completely ignoring that:
- He's putting his ENTIRE crew in danger by not doing his job.
They potentially lose the war and millions of people suffer because he didn't play his role.
We could have a reality where Sanji's choice results in the death of the crew, the scabbards, the SN and the entire Wano is enslaved. I guess that principle must be great because he didn't renounce his family, but he's imprisoned, starving and millions are dying because of his choice. Imagine being able to go to sleep with that on one's consciousness.
The choice of not fighting a woman that's evil and murderous who threatened to dismember the limbs of his friend, torture her until she was no longer useful, but still choose not to fight.
Somehow, I'm the one being unreasonable.
Dude, all good, You don't need to agree with me.I see your point now. You're absolutely right. I apologise for having disagreed with you, and not having aknowledged that this value of Sanji, as you mentioned again, is stupid
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Don't you know what "regardless of the Sanji situation" means lol?I've never read FT. I had to drop Naruto and Bleach because the story got stale. But Oda has been hitting consistently. I've noticed this sentiment coincides with the fall of Sanji! Didn't hear any of you whining during WCI about the story falling off. But now we are in Wano and Zoro's up top the tears and whining begins!!!
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Oda dragging Sanji = Bitching fans 'One piece Sucks'
That's just the way Oda writes Sanji, people are gonna hate some more in the future for the exact same reason. Something like that is assured to happen again, it's all part of Sanji's gimmick and I don't think Oda will stop anytime soon. It is silly and it's just how his character is, no way around it. Maybe in the future Luffy or Robin may have to talk to him or he will find a way around that but I would guess it's not happening.So it can't be fictional and make sense without Sanji not hitting female villains trying to kill his crew mate.
It however is fine and within objective... if Luffy or Zoro were in the same situation, and defended themselves, protected their crew mates and defeated the opponent.
But Sanji doing the exact same thing wouldn't make sense?
This has nothing to do with realism or the main objective. Sanji fighting and defending himself here wouldn't have zilch to with the realism or objective of the series.
Realism and objective in what way? That sounds like an arbitrary claim that doesn't make any sense.
It's not too different from Ennies Lobby. If they lost, his friends and the people of Galley-La would get killed or sent to Impel Down.And if you read my previous posts, I did say that.
I just said it's stupid because this is a war that would determine:
- If his comrades live.
- If the people of Wano live.
- If the scabbards survive.
- Losing this war means death and slavery.
What's wrong with saying Sanji's principle is crippling and stupid?