I am sick of Oda using cliffhanger on every little thing. Would it really hurt to tell about the box, Lilly and what the box content in one chapter? Shit like this made this manga 1/3 longer than it should be
thats the whole point for sales... remember this is published in a magazine,, there must be a little thing,,that need to keep you willing to buy the next issue,,,
Somehow I don't buy sommers being defeated just yet. Him dying should be somewhat of a big event, something imu feels on the spot. Odds are sommers will continue to squirm away from zoro for a bit.
sommer's cant be defeated Ofsscreen..he is not a Minor char..he is a GK, and one Linked directly to Imu,, if he dies, it supposed to affect Imu's by that regard alone.- IT CANT BE OFFSCREEN,, and after all the cruelty he showcased, most people want to see him dead or defeated in a FULL DOUBLE PAGE...
sommer's cant be defeated Ofsscreen..he is not a Minor char..he is a GK, and one Linked directly to Imu,, if he dies, it supposed to affect Imu's by that regard alone.- IT CANT BE OFFSCREEN,, and after all the cruelty he showcased, most people want to see him dead or defeated in a FULL DOUBLE PAGE...
If the box relates to lily then it could set some of the strawhats on the path to find her. Then again it wouldn't be too weird if she was on the way to elbaf to begin with.
Sanji Kills Killingham.. in the exact moment Zoro Kills Sommer's, in the precise moment Luffy,,or Luffy+Loki Launch at imu the most devastating strike EVER seen in Op Story--and Imu's unable to react in time to block or dodge , cause he is paralyzed by Sommer's and Killingham's deaths...
Pacts goes both ways,,, when a GK DIES,, Imu's feels himself diying-- (leaving aside the massive hole at his pride for the death of someone so powerful + regen ) like Harald... for someone who have been dodging death for 900 years...feel himself diying...is not very nice...
Because of u i got stupid idea, Sommer run toward Killingham, n Zoro with his new CoC defeat both of them at same time because Sanji still not unlock his CoC, i mean Zoro neen leak hos haki so long mybe even at Punk Hazard when facing Monet, Zoro need time to proper use it, meanwhile Sanji just can master it?
Because of u i got stupid idea, Sommer run toward Killingham, n Zoro with his new CoC defeat both of them at same time because Sanji still not unlock his CoC, i mean Zoro neen leak hos haki so long mybe even at Punk Hazard when facing Monet, Zoro need time to proper use it, meanwhile Sanji just can master it?
at this stage, of the story and thanks to masters haki's Gaban's it is Implied BOTH need to awaken it, to support Luffy as their powerful Wings,, the scenario is set for both doing it,, so im pretty sure he is goin to awaken it too,, besides the Iva's flashback is set, even prior to this chapter Sanji's was pondering about in the floor..
I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that Sanji is going to jump from no CoC to Advanced CoC.
Oda seems to really no care about power scaling if this ends up happening. What was so hard about giving non CoC haki power ups to be a Top Tier? Give Sanji black flames or Power of Love.
And this dragging of the Biblio story line is killing me.
Maybe its all these breaks giving me an altered perception of time.
Maybe the Elbaf warning to not stay long extends to us the readers as well lol
So we wait for 2 weeks for this ? How long will the stalling and blue balling continue ? Something something can’t be seen, something something serious weakness
I feel like the breaks are making this worse. But I will never argue Oda doesnt deserve them. I just wish it was possible to have a consistent weekly update without it being a detrimental to him.
I feel like of we didnt have so many off weeks everything would be okay pace wise
at this stage, of the story and thanks to masters haki's Gaban's it is Implied BOTH need to awaken it, to support Luffy as their powerful Wings,, the scenario is set for both doing it,, so im pretty sure he is goin to awaken it too,, besides the Iva's flashback is set, even prior to this chapter Sanji's was pondering about in the floor..
I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that Sanji is going to jump from no CoC to Advanced CoC.
Oda seems to really no care about power scaling if this ends up happening. What was so hard about giving non CoC haki power ups to be a Top Tier? Give Sanji black flames or Power of Love.
And this dragging of the Biblio story line is killing me.
Maybe its all these breaks giving me an altered perception of time.
Maybe the Elbaf warning to not stay long extends to us the readers as well lol
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I feel like the breaks are making this worse. But I will never argue Oda doesnt deserve them. I just wish it was possible to have a consistent weekly update without it being a detrimental to him.
I feel like of we didnt have so many off weeks everything would be okay pace wise
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Just imagine all this build up for Sanji to not get it lol
is just--- THERE'S no way to begin with to deal with Gk's if you simple doesn't have it--- as much you can delay their Regen . Not-- outright kill them...
if this is goin to affect Imu's both of they must die- not just become puzzles like it happened earlier-
and yes; is a big Jump for Sanji's!
im still waiting confirmation Killinghan ALSO have such a heart.. and all the GKS tier 2 have it-- and it is the key to infinite regen ...besides the thing that keep them alive...
Also i want to know the powers of Longinus ....
Big question --- DID SANJI'S KNOW about Sommer's Steel heart?.. maybe to imply Killingham may also have one ?
hmph, a coward to the very end huh Summers? To bad we did not get a flashback window or three that showed if there really was an inferitory comple within and accepted Imus corruption in order to become "braver", right now that is just a hint or a speculation.
moving one.
Sanji....AGAIN....bleeding!!!! urghhhhhhh, Always....the....same....THING!!! he must always be the chewtoy huh? Having said all that rant, I guess this is to show that even a Monster Trio can get wounded and exhausted when fighting an Immortal, after all an immortal always win a battle of endurance. I had expected Ivankov to be in a Sanji flashback. Not cuase of some "oh Sanji will finally harness new kama" BS, no cause as much as Sanji has pride in his cooking, his chivarly and his love for women, he has no pride in hismelf or his past. Ironically, and extra struggling for someone like Sanji, the Newkamas are a good representation of Acceptance. The Newkamas/Okamas are flashy yet fully proud on who they are. For Sanji, someone that has no pride in who he is or in his past, its strangely can carry wisdom in finding self-acceptance by having Ivankov in that flashback.
The rest of the chapter, also sound nice.
hmph, a coward to the very end huh Summers? To bad we did not get a flashback window or three that showed if there really was an inferitory comple within and accepted Imus corruption in order to become "braver", right now that is just a hint or a speculation.
moving one.
Sanji....AGAIN....bleeding!!!! urghhhhhhh, Always....the....same....THING!!! he must always be the chewtoy huh? Having said all that rant, I guess this is to show that even a Monster Trio can get wounded and exhausted when fighting an Immortal, after all an immortal always win a battle of endurance. I had expected Ivankov to be in a Sanji flashback. Not cuase of some "oh Sanji will finally harness new kama" BS, no cause as much as Sanji has pride in his cooking, his chivarly and his love for women, he has no pride in hismelf or his past. Ironically, and extra struggling for someone like Sanji, the Newkamas are a good representation of Acceptance. The Newkamas/Okamas are flashy yet fully proud on who they are. For Sanji, someone that has no pride in who he is or in his past, its strangely can carry wisdom in finding self-acceptance by having Ivankov in that flashback.
The rest of the chapter, also sound nice.
At this point... is not even THEIR POWERS.. THEY ARE BORROWED POWERS---tied to Imu's
Sommer's own powers go far as,,his own Devil fruit and whateaver he can make Physically or using Haki ....
Once you bypass the Max imu'S Haxxor cheat of infinite regen, things are goin to get totally deadly for him
PART OF his bet is,,Zoro's never awaken it.. and yes he is the kind of scummy guy who could use ANY CHEAT, trick, and crappy scummy move of any kind..shielding himself in being a Knight of God.. the guy murder a kid along his father in G.V just 4 Drama... he is an absolute coward, hiding himself behind Imu's hacks.. lets make a list of what he have...
after all this King's haki agenda have been pushed since day one in Elbaph... for plot reasons, i cant see a way to kill killingham if not with Supreme King Haki's on his legs (Maybe on his arms too, that would be quite surprising isnt it ???)
I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that Sanji is going to jump from no CoC to Advanced CoC.
Oda seems to really no care about power scaling if this ends up happening. What was so hard about giving non CoC haki power ups to be a Top Tier? Give Sanji black flames or Power of Love.
And this dragging of the Biblio story line is killing me.
Maybe its all these breaks giving me an altered perception of time.
Maybe the Elbaf warning to not stay long extends to us the readers as well lol
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I feel like the breaks are making this worse. But I will never argue Oda doesnt deserve them. I just wish it was possible to have a consistent weekly update without it being a detrimental to him.
I feel like of we didnt have so many off weeks everything would be okay pace wise
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Just imagine all this build up for Sanji to not get it lol
Girl, at this point "power scaling" is just an illusion that people argue over to ruin their and everyones fun. But you're kinda right that it's weird how they got/are about to get such huge jump without upgrading their other kinds of haki. Like Luffy had to train two years to use conqueror but his "wings" will just awaken it with free upgrade? How is that fair?
Also yeah, Elbaf drags worse than it should because of those breaks but I also won't whine about them. Oda is really busy recently so he NEED those breaks. I only wish he would actually use them for RESTING instead of doing more work.
Oh, and I hope we get to know what's in Biblos box like next or another chapter. People say it won't be revealed until 1200 chapter but I don't think whatever it is it will be big enough to deserve to be "main event" of such round chapter. Waiting would be pain but I wish Lokis hybrid form could be fully revealed in 1200. THAT would be something, espesially spiced up with some epic action.
I doubt biblo can have the missing poneglyph. It went missing a couple decades ago IIRC and the chest has not been opened in hundreds of years. If Gallaghorn is in the chest then I'd think it's too early to use it. Just as it was too early to bring down wano's walls some time back. The horn starts the war but it's difficult to imagine who could be waiting for it. Zunesha maybe but most currently living folk are too young to have any notion of it. Maybe an ancient weapon or dormant android army... Could even be that gallaghorn just straight up brings down the adam tree or the red line.
Seems like chapter 595 will be relevant(paraphrasing a bit):
Ivankov: The 99 recipes are part of the bridal training. I am not teaching them to a stranger! If you want to learn them you need the heart of a maiden and learn newkama karate!
Sanji: Never! I was born to love women, not to be their friend!
Iva: Interesting, I will give you a chance! You will steal the 99 recipes from the masters across the island while they try to put you in an adorable little dress! Lets see how long you can resist as a man!
I did misremember some of this, I thought the okama catching up to sanji and getting him in a dress was after this exchange but rather it happened earlier during a cover story. IF this is what Gaban's comment about sanji was about then it'll be interesting to see how oda tackles this because there are multiple ways to go about it. Does sanji embrace his okama self? Or does he sort of... put his trauma behind him? Supposedly sanji fought newkama and learned their martial arts but we've never seen him use any. IIRC the last time his training was referenced it was when he learned blue walk to fly away from the okama. Sanji suddenly embracing being a maiden at heart does sound like a rather substantial change to his character so such a development doesn't seem likely.
I think this is more about the Sanji & Woman thing. In order for him to have conquerors his weakness for woman has to stop.
It feels that’s where we are heading honestly. Cause Ivankov is not the character you use if the weakness is related to Sanji and Germa.
I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that Sanji is going to jump from no CoC to Advanced CoC.
Oda seems to really no care about power scaling if this ends up happening. What was so hard about giving non CoC haki power ups to be a Top Tier? Give Sanji black flames or Power of Love.
And this dragging of the Biblio story line is killing me.
Maybe its all these breaks giving me an altered perception of time.
Maybe the Elbaf warning to not stay long extends to us the readers as well lol
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I feel like the breaks are making this worse. But I will never argue Oda doesnt deserve them. I just wish it was possible to have a consistent weekly update without it being a detrimental to him.
I feel like of we didnt have so many off weeks everything would be okay pace wise
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Just imagine all this build up for Sanji to not get it lol
I think this is more about the Sanji & Woman thing. In order for him to have conquerors his weakness for woman has to stop.
It feels that’s where we are heading honestly. Cause Ivankov is not the character you use if the weakness is related to Sanji and Germa.
I don't see why that'd be an issue. The framing around conqueror hake is that it is powered by your own sense of self. How does not hitting women affect his sense of self? This is about sanjis identity, his convictions, his will, him being unwavering against overwhelming, impossible odds. At least as i understand this this doesn't have anything to do with morals or politics. We know this because multiple other cladding users are outright evil on top of vile and they are able to use conqueror haki. If a conqueror would rather die than hit a woman then a conqueror will die. Sanji needs to deal with whatever it is that is getting in the way of his sense of self, with whatever is causing him to waver. It could be his training with the okamas, it could be his genetic modifications, it could be his family.
