On Break One Piece Chapter 1196 Discussion

[Rein Avara]

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[AmyRose]

Honestly this chapter made me realise how long it took Sanji to understand that if he basicaly dies or cripple his body beyond "fixing" he won't be able to protect anyone. Like so what if his sacrefice will protect Nami, Robin or crew in general at this very moment if for any reason he WON'T be there to help them again if they'll be in danger. That's the thing: if you don't care about your own life and willingly burn yourself down to the ground to protect/help others at some point it may happen that you WON'T be there to continue your work. Well, good thing that Sanji finally dealt with that. Anyway HA!, Killingham had really stupid face when Iva nightmare disapeared. I kinda think that he have REALLY superficial understanding of fear and limits of his own power. People aren't terrified of various things forever after all. One fears disapear and new may appear but as long as you deal with them at some point they won't last. It's actually super nice of Killingham that he accidently helped Sanji deal with his weakness. Unfortunately for him this mean he'll die soon enough. I really want to go back to Loki and all but I hope Killingham will actually try to put on a fight once Sanji will get conqueror. Sommers was hilarious but also pretty disappointing, espesially for sadistic big talker he is. Well, WAS.

 

[kcd]

By crew you mean half of it ? Because the other half can't even use haki while every vice-admiral can.
The crew is definitely not ready yet.

Yeah, that’s what I meant. The powerhouses of the crew are the ones who get to fight the top tiers of the World Government and other Yonko's crew. The rest would support in whatever capacity they can, while the Grand Fleet and top-tier allies like Loki, Yamato, Momo, Scabbards, and others operating at that level would handle the remaining top tiers. Regrettably, I don’t see EOS Nami or Usopp showing any top-tier Armament Haki feats.

Edit: There's also the revolutionary army too, so there's no shortage of top tier allies.

 

[Dziumbranakas]

Yeah in OP all CoC user have big egos, being King itself mean to have ego to be only in top.

I disagree, it is not about having an ego, it is about owning it, owning yourself as you are. Not being sorry for your faults, your desires, your character, nothing. Be it good or bad, you are YOU and this is what every CoC shared.
Personally I do not believe that CoC is not "trainable", it's just that it is something so deeply dormant subconsciously that it is nigh impossible for one to have the right spirit and mind connection to tap into it.
One fault to this IMO is Ace. He seems to have been somewhat suicidal yet he had CoC

 

[Zmsp]

After reading the chapter... yeah, I think it's poorly executed, but let's see where this is going.

Anyhow, I noticed this Sanji fight is very similar to the Queen fight:

- He's fighting the quadruped enemy with queer features (Ivankov/Qillingham hybrid vs Queen), who shoots lasers and spawns demons (nightmares vs oni curses), and some sort of acceptance is required for Sanji to level up (science vs weakness).

I wish science was actually the way to go in order to overcome God's Knights, at least for Sanji. If Germa is a fallen empire who once belonged to the WG, and Judge wanted to bring it back, it'd be nice if they knew about GKs and their immortality and had a plan to counter it.

CoC could be a thing in the future, but it's way too sudden right now.

 

[fastfonz]

After reading the chapter... yeah, I think it's poorly executed, but let's see where this is going.

Anyhow, I noticed this Sanji fight is very similar to the Queen fight:

- He's fighting the quadruped enemy with queer features (Ivankov/Qillingham hybrid vs Queen), who shoots lasers and spawns demons (nightmares vs oni curses), and some sort of acceptance is required for Sanji to level up (science vs weakness).

I wish science was actually the way to go in order to overcome God's Knights, at least for Sanji. If Germa is a fallen empire who once belonged to the WG, and Judge wanted to bring it back, it'd be nice if they knew about GKs and their immortality and had a plan to counter it.

CoC could be a thing in the future, but it's way too sudden right now.

Oda is definitely rushing things. so the recent growth chapters dont feel earned.. but so many complained that he takes forever. Personally, I think a slower pace with more climatic fights, like Luffy vs. Katakuri (which is the same thing, a fight to help a character grow) just landed better. Oda went so fast that he had to turn the God Knights into arrogant fodder. They should have been harder fights, that truly pushed the characters but then its 3 to 5 more chapters each and a lot of complaining from some. Anyway, you cant have it both ways, but to me making the fights feel like garbage fights is never good. You shouldn't get a massive upgrade from a garbage fight.

 

[PastryStout]

This is dreadful. Let this arc end already, seriously...

 

[baditz]

I disagree, it is not about having an ego, it is about owning it, owning yourself as you are. Not being sorry for your faults, your desires, your character, nothing. Be it good or bad, you are YOU and this is what every CoC shared.
Personally I do not believe that CoC is not "trainable", it's just that it is something so deeply dormant subconsciously that it is nigh impossible for one to have the right spirit and mind connection to tap into it.
One fault to this IMO is Ace. He seems to have been somewhat suicidal yet he had CoC

Its because i was right, Ace has big ego, what ur discribe as CoC user are all part of ego,, just loving urself not make u will have CoC all okama are love themself but notbmean they have CoC.