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What I hope from this arc is that someone is gonna knock some sense in the rubber idiot about his DF. I found it mind boggling that the rubber idiot seemed so uninterested in understanding his powers, with neither his crew probing him.
oh...forget it.....I WISH----- if they dont make questions NOT HIM, OR THE WHOLE CREW about..where the hell the LOONEY toon powers come from,, they act totally uninterested-- i doubt much less they l ask about his monkey transformation---even when it could pick their interests a little bit,, since at difference from G5 it looks like he stopped being Human completely--but on any case there's no way to ask him,,and yes,,,,HE WONT REMEMBER SHIT,, once he get back to normal .After that nobody would care to ask either..
 
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What I hope from this arc is that someone is gonna knock some sense in the rubber idiot about his DF. I found it mind boggling that the rubber idiot seemed so uninterested in understanding his powers, with neither his crew probing him.
Well, Gaban is there. Mayby after all of this will be done he will enlighten Luffy about true nature of his fruit. Also Vegapunk actually explained his fruit to the crew so I'm genuinely surprised the idea of telling LUFFY of all people didn't crossed Lilith mind. They had time after all. Though they probably didn't expected that troubles will follow them to Elbaf of all places so Lilith/crew thought they can tell him later. Btw, only Luffy seen victims of failed awakening. Mayby this experience will make him realise he's actually a zoan.
 

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I think someone who relies so heavily on his DF like Blackbeard will probably awaken at least the Yami.
When Van Augur was talking about people who rely heavily on their DF, he doesn't mean people who always use their DF (even WB used his DF for 99% of his attacks), what he means is that people who have not developed their other fighting abilities outside of DF strength are over-reliant.
He said this during his fight with Ace, and a 100% of Ace's attacks were DF based, yet he said that Ace doesn't rely just on his DF because he was able to take a punch from Blackbeard proving that he didn't only develop his DF's power, but his physical durability, and other combat abilities.

If we define using your DF for 99% of attacks as over-reliant on DF ability, then that is pretty much every DF user in the series.

I also think Blackbeard has probably already Awakened his ability, I'd be surprised and narratively, Oda would be doing the strongest DFs a disservice if we never saw the full power of arguably the strongest DF in the series.
While I can't prove he has, I think top tiers (best of the best, and he's easily top 5 in the series) just get the benefit of the doubt. Like I don't need to see Mihawk using CoC to say he has it, it's more likely he has it than not and I'd say this applies to the idea of Blackbeard's mastery of his DF.
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What I hope from this arc is that someone is gonna knock some sense in the rubber idiot about his DF. I found it mind boggling that the rubber idiot seemed so uninterested in understanding his powers, with neither his crew probing him.
Doubt this will happen, Luffy is very intuitive. He just has epiphanies and develops understanding. I think that's just a part of his character, he will always remain an idiot. I don't think anyone will probe him. He will just understand it as required.

I guess now that he's up against Imu, he probably is peaking, and will probably peak further in some way or form - Oda could take this in numerous ways, he could have this form like Berserk Nika, a form he is not able to fully control until the very end of the series - this might be the form that Imu is afraid Luffy will master meaning he's in big trouble meaning he probably won't do so until the end, or maybe there is another form that can only be achieved if one fully controls this form and this is just the incomplete form to the very peak of Nika's form/power.

Glad we will be getting a chapter soon (assuming no break next week too?).
 
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