Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1198 Spoiler Discussion

[669ako]

Two massive presence as jinbei said its imu and nika

 

[AmyRose]

I genuinely hope that in the next chapter Imu will make mistake of trying to go after Luffy and while he WON'T get destroyed by him he will have most confusing and ridiculous fight of his life. Up until he won't try to hurt someone Luffy care about. That would deffinetly bring him back.



Btw side note. What in the world Hairudin meant by "I go get Loki"? His "little" brother is 3 times bigger than him. How he plan to move him around?

 

[hokageji]

Luffy stops Imu. Imu escapes back to holy land. Luffy in Nika form now starts to destroy elbaph like a monkey would create havoc. Ussop will figure out how to stop and bring back Luffy and therefore becoming the hero of Elbaph and a brave warrior of th sea

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And Nika looks like a Rheasus Monkey, I was expecting a Langur but he appears more like a rheasus. This is why Kaido didn't awaken his DF and a big penalty for DF users.
I can see it now, Nika was the first world legend who at some stage lost control over and went havoc, while Joyboy was from the 2nd world who learned to control the Nika ability. Both were the same ability users either through inheritance or something on those lines. Joyboy = white, Nika =black..

 

[Sachsenhesse]

I dont want to be all negative, but man.

"2 big haki signatures"?

Its Reiatsu,Chakra and Dbz Energy Level all over again.

Monkeyform is only here because G5 is hated by many fans, kinda like Cell appeared because the androids didnt seemed like a real threat.

Its getting more and more a shitshow, what a shameful end. Big Game of Thrones Season 8 vibes

 

[Kuza]

bleach piece

 

[KimCorrea]

Imu does look like Mayuri though

 

[Rein Avara]

It is interesting that Luffy in his Nika form Journeyed to the West (Village)

 

[Resgia]

We all know what's going to happen. Luffy will have to transform into something bigger, into King Kong.... oh wait, there is something better...

great monkeyfication..

 

[aster4jaden]

First Brulee and Pudding are looking adorable.

Second holy crap!!! Imu latest Form looks fantastic!!! it really looks like mix of an Ophanim and a Demon to me.

Luffy's new hinted form, could be the "Destroyer Luffy" that Madam Shyarly saw in her vision?

 

[Imfamux]

Regarding Luffy's awakening—my hypothesis is the following: Gear 5 is actually the base form of the Nika Devil Fruit, and only now is this Fruit truly awakening. A rather extreme analogy would be Ichigo himself!

For a long time, Ichigo thought his Zanpakuto was Old Man Zangetsu. He developed his Bankai and all his power levels around that—UNTIL he discovered that it was only PART of his soul and power, because the truth was that Ichigo was the perfect hybrid of three races (Quincy, Hollow, and Shinigami). Once he understood that, he awakened his ultimate power—his true Shikai and Bankai. And even his true Bankai was sealed until the very last moment, when Yhwach shattered the scabbard holding it back!

All this time, Luffy lived as though he had eaten the Gomu Gomu no Mi—something that DOES NOT EXIST. In Wano, he ended up awakening an unknown power that was, in fact, ALWAYS the ORIGINAL power of his Fruit. And now, in Elbaf, he is TRULY awakening the Nika Fruit, which is why this is the critical moment—it’s the first time Luffy is ACTUALLY coming into contact with his awakened Zoan form!

 

[HolyLord]

I dont want to be all negative, but man.

"2 big haki signatures"?

Its Reiatsu,Chakra and Dbz Energy Level all over again.

Monkeyform is only here because G5 is hated by many fans, kinda like Cell appeared because the androids didnt seemed like a real threat.

Its getting more and more a shitshow, what a shameful end. Big Game of Thrones Season 8 vibes

Your Dragon Ball comparison is ridiculous to begin with. Cell was introduced because Toriyama's former editor wasn't happy with the Androids, not because fans thought they weren't threatening enough.

And the funniest part? Oda has explicitly stated that he doesn't want other people giving him story ideas, including his own editors.

Yet you seriously believe a handful of sad ass trolls on Twitter and Reddit convinced him to change the direction of a story he's been writing for nearly 30 years?

Imagine thinking your little online echo chamber has that much influence over Oda's writing.

 

[Federicoxxx]

One of the things i like the most..is that even in monkey mode,, he seems rather Happy,, Naughty / rascal ,,, i honestly love to see him doing monkey sounds, and monkey like mannerisms, like scratching his own butt,, i would say he is having a lot of fun on this mode..,, similar at how he was always Smiling and laughing in regular g5 mode, it is very very interesting he goes for ZaZa first,, he didnt stay with Loki and Imu's... the FIRST THING HE DID,, it was to get rid of ZaZa, once and for all,, so no more kids could get kidnapped,, leaving aside the chaos ZaZA HIMSELF was doing,, i dont think it was a a simple coincidence, maybe in Monkey mode,, the first of the list, it was to totally Botch the enemy's plan,, even when it was almost already botched, specially thanks to ZORO who, already beat the shit of Sommer's,, so nobody is goin to control that ship and take it to Mariejois..

i think from the enemy side,, the only in the current position to control the ship and take it to Mariejois, might be Gunko,, but her mental state is an absolute mess..

if we think about it,, simple removing the kids from the ship,, and destroying the ship to pieces,, it would also work to botch their plan..

oh yeah,,someone already said it ,,but imu's face remind me to GISMONDA MASK

https://onepiece.fandom.com/es/wiki/Gismonda

 

[Bukan]

Nika still in white form like the giant said when nika grab zaza. So i think nika is referring to hanuman the white monkey.

 

[DeadlyBeast]

So this pretty much confirms that Nika is basically Sun Wukong and Luffy in his injured state has let the DF fully take over. Wonder how powerful/dangerous he's about to become. Hopefully he's not going to be a danger to his own allies but who knows considering the lore from Elbaf on dark Nika being a god of destruction.

Imu's new form is insane. At this point I'm just like how many forms he gonna have. Also confirmed he can't be away from Marijeose long which is strange. For someone as powerful as Imu how could they be stuck somewhere. Makes me think Imu is the literal Devil that created DF and the Sea God (who we don't know much about) cursed him to be stuck in that one place and made sure the progeny of his powers (DF users) would drown. This is turning into a battle of gods with humans just being chess pieces at this point.

 

[AmyRose]

Hmm, I just realised: What if multiple hybrid forms are mostly mythical zoans thing? Killingham have 2, now Loki is supposed to have 2 and Luffy on top of one he already have just awakened new hybrid form. So, what if all mythical zoans are like that and we just don't know it because people generally dosen't dare to try awaken their fruits? Sure, sometime awakening just happen under pressure but I imagine zoan users avoid situations when their fruits may try to take over through awakening. That's why Kaido despit being soo powerful wasn't awakened. He was afraid that he will turn into mindless beast. Also his fruit could NOT want to lend him more power because he wasn't guardian but rather occupant. In regard of what currently is happening to Luffy it seems like Nika fruit is trying to help him just like it did in Wano but in this case result depends on him. If he lose his humanity he will turn into powerful but mindless animal who will probably turn Elbaf upside down and if he regain control he will become biggest threat to Government/Imu but greatest ally to the world.

 

[kkck]

The most likely scenario is that luffy was taken over by his fruit as happened to the impel down guards. Basically he got taken over by the fruit's nature/will. And he has to somehow overcome this or risk being taken over forever. This is speculation on my end but I wouldn't expect luffy in this form to have powers he didn't have before. Mostly because he was already awakened. That said, once luffy overcomes this I wouldn't be surprised if he gets some manner of boost. Maybe his transformation not being as taxing anymore or perhaps oda will change it to not be such an annoying eyesore.

Another idea I have is that maybe this black form has something to do with luffy's gear 4. Luffy's G4 forms weirdly inpired by deities and also have the awakening strip around them even though the forms are not actually awakened. Of course the black color pallete isn't due to the fruit itself but rather due to luffy using hardening to sustain and enhance the forms via muscle manipulation. Thematically the forms are also different from G5 because they have a serious vibe to them while G5 is basically one big joke.

 

[TitaniumOxide]

I genuinely hope that in the next chapter Imu will make mistake of trying to go after Luffy and while he WON'T get destroyed by him he will have most confusing and ridiculous fight of his life. Up until he won't try to hurt someone Luffy care about. That would deffinetly bring him back.



Btw side note. What in the world Hairudin meant by "I go get Loki"? His "little" brother is 3 times bigger than him. How he plan to move him around?

I mean he was able to punch away a 10k pound dude in Dressrosa... so he must be stronger now?

 

[SanaNeOlm]

After reading the chapter, I fail to see why the leakers called Loki a fraud.

 

[gcd]

It gets worse every week, we´ll soon reach DB powerlvl, its a shame that so many shounen do this.

 

[AmyRose]

I mean he was able to punch away a 10k pound dude in Dressrosa... so he must be stronger now?

I see your point but let's just say carrying around huge track would be very hard even if you would be strong enough to do that. That's what concerns me: How he will move around Lokis ginormous body while being soo tiny compared to him? Dragging him around isn't exactly an option because that would make his wounds worse. Well, it's good enough that he seem to care about Loki now and not just because situation demand it.

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After reading the chapter, I fail to see why the leakers called Loki a fraud.

Because people can be stupid sometime. We seen only result of Lokis battle but I bet he pushed Imu hard enough to force him to change into another one of his forms. Imu wouldn't change again if he didn't see reason for that because doing that just to let's say "flex" on Loki could cost him too much. As Imu admited himself he's about to hit his limit which have to mean he used all energy he could use down in "lower world" so it seems like he couldn't affort to change forms without knowing if it's necessary. And since Jimbe take a note on two powerful hakis in the village it seems like Imu decided to go after Luffy before he leave. I think that it may be huge mistake because Luffy may be now much more powerful than he is in G5. Espesially if Luffy will only follow his instincts instead of messing around like he tried before thinking his ridiculous "freedom" powers will be enough. Mayby the key here is for Luffy to mix "freedom" powers with this new feral form? Well, we'll probably see next time. Though it's really bad moment for cliffhanger, it's soo annoying.