One Piece Discussion & Long Time Prediction Thread

[Josl]

Re: One Piece: The New World

i dont necessary think conqueror haki is that useful in one on one battles. it's only use would be to intimidate people like shanks did. other than that it seems invaluable when facing armies

Every time Luffy used the conqueror haki every body was shocked and scared. Even Admirals:
http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+570&page=1&next=true
Just think about it. One Piece is a shonen battle manga. It's protagonist has the rarest type of power possible.
OF COURSE it will be the most usefull and strongest type of haki for combat. Making people faint is just basic. Like the gum gum fruit gives you the basic ability to stretch but look what luffy was able to do with this kind of ability

 

[Aikidoka]

Re: One Piece: The New World

Like jimm says, it's only the basics so I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy came up with new and inventive ways to use it. Also agreed with Josl's comment -- Luffy's ingenious when it comes to his powers, so Conqueror Haki will definitely see much more than its basic use.

I also think Conqueror Haki's use is much more valuable in army settings than people think -- think of the WB War. Whitebeard could shrug off pretty much all the fodder attacks that came his way, but I'd bet that they at least contributed something to his eventual defeat. If he had been in "peak" condition (even with the sickness), he probably could have fought Akainu on more equal grounds.

That's where Conqueror Haki comes into play -- take out all the annoying fodder first so you can concentrate your max abilities on the deadlier opponents.

 

[Skyrius]

Re: One Piece: The New World

There's already been a whole argument over the uses of Conqueror's haki here:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63701

XD But to reiterate, think about Water 7 and Enies Lobby and Shabondy. Getting rid of cannon fodder quickly is essential in timed events. Likewise, Luffy's level of haki has been shown to be enough to take out New World pirates allied with Whitebeard and elite Marine soldiers from HQ (yes, yes, they're still cannon fodder, but it's the thought that counts). Besides, as Law's pirates mentioned, when Rayleigh unleashed his Conqueror's haki, a couple of them almost fainted. So if it can distract a stronger enemy for even a second, at a high stakes, high level battle, a moments hesitation is enough to turn the tide.

 

[zerocooldx]

Re: One Piece: The New World

Is there any real doubt that Smoker won't be promoted to at least a Rear Admiral once he eventually is permitted to transfer over to the G-5 Marine base in the New World?

I would like to say that he will end up being a Vice Admiral, but we don't know if any of the Vice Admirals will be promoted to Admiral. And in all likely hood there won't be any promoted. Plus Smoker himself has stated that there are those weaker then him who hold higher positions. So that could also play a bit of a factor in him chasing promotions, since he really doesn't seem to be into that. I also expect Smoker to not use his Jute anymore, seeing as how it was broken by Hancock. And i think after two years in hard NW conditions he will be strong enough to use the Haki of Armament.

 

[Geez]

Re: One Piece: The New World

Does anyone know whether Tom (water7 arc) has been executed or just tossed in impel down ?
Well, if he was in prison, he might have seized the opportunity to escape like the other level 6 and be on his way to FI... just random tought, sorry if it's stupid !

 

[Oni_James]

Re: One Piece: The New World

Does anyone know whether Tom (water7 arc) has been executed or just tossed in impel down ?
Well, if he was in prison, he might have seized the opportunity to escape like the other level 6 and be on his way to FI... just random tought, sorry if it's stupid !

He was executed. According to wikia (and i remember from the manga, tomorrow i may look for the specific page where it happened):
"Tom was escorted on the sea train he built to Enies Lobby, where he was allegedly executed shortly thereafter."
But it would be nice if he had been tossed in impel down and now he'd be free. He didn't deserve what happened to him...

 

[kkck]

Re: One Piece: The New World

I don't think tom was tossed to ID. I would think the WG would have thought of him roughly the same way as an actual roger pirate which means basically he would have been executed as soon as possible.

 

[luffyq1]

Re: One Piece: The New World

Regarding Aokiji as Fleet Admiral, I think Sengoku has ulterior motives. This is a theory I've had in mind for a while, I think Sengoku has foreseen that one day BB will be stopped. And he knows that the day when that comes is the day when the Marines & Pirates form a temporary treaty in order to stop BB. Sengoku knows exactly how dangerous he is. That's why Sengoku placed Aokiji as Fleet Admiral because Aokiji is a pretty open-minded person. One of the reasons why Sengoku prefers Aokiji is because he was Garp's pupil. Garp was an open-minded person who doesn't always follow the rules. He disobeyed the order to kill Ace & Rouge. This is where Garp's influence on Aokiji lies. In other words, if they wanted to take BB down one day, they need someone like Aokiji at the top so both sides can cooperate. Aokiji respected Luffy a lot, just like Garp respected Roger & fulfilled his last wishes.

You know where I'm going with this, right?
Luffy will obviously try & take down BB, but he would need the cooperation of the Marines to do so. From what we've seen at Impel Down & Aokiji's comments of Luffy's ability to make anyone into his allies even though they don't realize it, clearly foreshadows the partnership with the Marines.

wait a minute, when did Aokiji ever admit to respecting luffy?? and Aokiji never said that luffy has the ability to make everyone into his allies, Mihawk was the one who said that not Aokiji.

 

[elitefox]

Re: One Piece: The New World

Like jimm says, it's only the basics so I wouldn't be surprised if Luffy came up with new and inventive ways to use it. Also agreed with Josl's comment -- Luffy's ingenious when it comes to his powers, so Conqueror Haki will definitely see much more than its basic use.

I also think Conqueror Haki's use is much more valuable in army settings than people think -- think of the WB War. Whitebeard could shrug off pretty much all the fodder attacks that came his way, but I'd bet that they at least contributed something to his eventual defeat. If he had been in "peak" condition (even with the sickness), he probably could have fought Akainu on more equal grounds.

That's where Conqueror Haki comes into play -- take out all the annoying fodder first so you can concentrate your max abilities on the deadlier opponents.

Lol, WB is even stabbed to the heart.

I guess Rayleigh gives Luffy this assignment and let luffy find it out for himself. I just wonder if the haki of armor can be shaped? or it takes shape just extending your body, you know like a bigger hand or gloves.

thus make luffy's punches sharper and not blunt attack.


I wonder if the other supernova can learn haki.

 

[zerocooldx]

Re: One Piece: The New World

wait a minute, when did Aokiji ever admit to respecting luffy?? and Aokiji never said that luffy has the ability to make everyone into his allies, Mihawk was the one who said that not Aokiji.

Yeah as far as i remember Aokiji said due to his respect and admiration for Garp, or something along those lines, that he would basically let Luffy off the hook for that one time. And the only thing about friendship or making allies that Aokiji spoke of i believe was only to Robin, which was basically about her finding people who genuinely care for her and whatnot. So ya all in all Aokiji gave them all a one time free pass. So the next time they meet i seriously doubt that he will be very civil towards them.

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I wonder if the other supernova can learn haki.

I think that the other SN's will definitely learn Haki through their adventures and battles across the NW. Oda has sort of branded them with the title of next generation top dogs. So i'm sure they will make just a much progress as the SH's do in terns of strength. Its just that they have the luxury of being able to travel freely without the full force of the Marines and WG coming down on top of them.

 

[hdiuy]

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I get a feeling that after the timeskip the Supernovas won't be called the Supernovas. I'm looking forward to see new pirates, marines, Shichibukais etc. I think that 2 years later, some of the supernovas will be gone or basically won't make it big like some of them wanted.

 

[Uriel]

Re: One Piece: The New World

I think that the Supernovas tittle will stay for a while, as the honorific tittle of the "challengers" of the proclaimed strongest pirates in the sea. That include Shichibukai and Yonkous.

And my bet is that only 4 supernovas will make it to true fame.

 

[Skyrius]

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I doubt all the Supernova will still retain their title in two years, especially with the crazy stuff that's been going down in the One Piece world. Law and Kidd seem to have the most potential, while Bonney and Bebe seem potentially out of the run (depending on what exactly it was that sucked up Bebe's ship). The others are still up in the air.

I most curious about Drake, since he obviously knows more about the Marines (like the Pacifista project) and about the Yonkou (he seems to be purposely inciting Kaidou by attacking that island), so I'm hoping he plays some part in exposition in the upcoming chapters. Maybe give the reader hints about the other things the government is hiding.

 

[kkck]

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I can't help but wonder what exactly happened to the supernova at this point. Kid seems ok so far but I have no doubt in my mind he will soon enough get the shit beat out of him by a NW pirate of average power or he will incur the wrath of a yonkou. Hawkins seems to have gotten in a fight with a pirate with an 80 mil bounty but his victory is not assured. It'd be interesting if he was actually defeated. I find it interesting hawkings ran into a pirate with an 80 mil bounty in the first island he visited in the NW though, even if he lucks out against brownbeard he is bound to have trouble soon. Seriously, if the first bounty he found in the NW was 80 mil then I would not be surprised in the least if bounties above the 100 mil are average. Bege seems in trouble although he is not necessarily done for. I'd think he just ran into a weird island and will have trouble escaping.

 

[zerocooldx]

Re: One Piece: The New World

Anyone think that after the two year time skip Luffy will end up looking like Oda had originally drawn him back in Romance Dawn? I think that would be pretty cool and sort of bring things full circle for Oda and the manga.

 

[Geez]

Thx Oni_James and Kkck !

Dunno if luffy will change like in romance dawn, i mean, i hope not 'cause 20 years old is still young for that kind of look in OP's world... but that would be a nice way to show his growth!
(I'm also pretty impatient to finally see Elbaf, and how Usopp will react there^^)

Ah and, maybe this is nothing but i noticed that the starfish talked about the Fishman princess. Dunno if it was an hint but i hope the next arc will show her!

 

[Kaiser Will]

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[Rosebullet Teacher]

Garps gotta find a way to enjoy his retirement, Coby needs to get stronger to challenge Luffy, so why doesnt Garp retake Coby under his wing on a calm collected voyage......To CAPTURE level 6 prisoners! Badass, also Crocodile has got to get his rep back up i cant see him being the ruthless Croc we know now that WB is gone & he shows a bit of concern for Daz Bones, but if he still is hes gotta seek out a battle with a Yonkou. Other hand maybe that dream of being a superhero makes him a little less likely to randomly disembowel people. Either way I hope hes back on One Pieces trail, taking ass & kicking names...did i say that right?
FuS

 

[zerocooldx]

Garps gotta find a way to enjoy his retirement, Coby needs to get stronger to challenge Luffy, so why doesnt Garp retake Coby under his wing on a calm collected voyage......To CAPTURE level 6 prisoners! Badass, also Crocodile has got to get his rep back up i cant see him being the ruthless Croc we know now that WB is gone & he shows a bit of concern for Daz Bones, but if he still is hes gotta seek out a battle with a Yonkou. Other hand maybe that dream of being a superhero makes him a little less likely to randomly disembowel people. Either way I hope hes back on One Pieces trail, taking ass & kicking names...did i say that right?
FuS

I actually think that Garp and Sengoku partly retired/resigned because of the stance that the WG took of the level 6 ID prisoners. Basically the WG seems to have said that they are going to ignore and keep under wraps what happened in ID in terms of those level 6 escaped prisoners. So i wouldn't be surprised at all to see Garp and Sengoku privately attempt to track and take down those escaped level 6 ID prisoners on their own time.

 

[Rosebullet Teacher]

Take Coby along & threes company Garp still probably doesnt like Luffy being a pirate so Cobys gotta inherit his will it dont matter how it happens but im dying to see the Luffy v Coby high level battle
FuS