One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

If Oda like a characters, that one will survive no matter what. Something we can be sure, no Straw Hats that isn't a inanimate object will die until the end.
So... You don't die. You just get injured for a while. Get some tape, it's all good.
That remember me of this VG Cats comic: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/070312.jpg
 

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Oda is so masterful a storyteller that we can't see the forest through the trees.

This arc isn't about freeing Ace, or meeting old friends and enemys.
It isn't about powering up or learning Haki.
It isn't about gaining new nakama, or reuniting with old nakama.
Some of these things will happen along the way but they aren't what it's about.
It is about tying up loose ends.
It is the End of an Era and the Beginning of a new one.


End of an Era:

Whitebeard has a number of reasons to attack the World Government. Some of which are less obvious:
1) Rescue Ace.
2) Kill Blackbeard.
3) Punish the Marines for inciting this fight. This reason probably includes personally defeating Sengoku whom he would consider to be the primary offender. Would also explain why Sengoku is so stressed out right now. :)
4) Whitebeard is no longer in his prime. He is getting old. At the very least, he is sick and at the very worst he is dying. Either way, going down fighting like a pirate is preferred to dying in bed a sickly old man. He would rather take out all his enemies now while he can still fight with most of his strength.

Oda has made a point of not actually killing anyone in One Piece except in flashbacks. The purpose is likely to make it much more immediate and dramatic when it does happen. The Great Pirate Age will end with the death of it's most important living member.


The Beginning of the New Era:

Depending on who defeats Whitebeard, the age will change to one of several ages. Although, like any age in this world, it wouldn't be acknowledged until you were well into it.

These are the ages for the bad guys:

The Age of Marine Supremacy
In this age, the balance has shifted towards the Marines. The yonkou are weakened or eliminated and eventually the shichibukai are eliminated as no longer needed.

The Age of Smiles
Doflamingo seems to be a merchant more than anything. We keep seeing his business ventures and his "smiley face" logo all over. He also is Liberating Islands so maybe he is an aspiring Yonkou and plans on snapping up some islands that WB was holding.

The Dark Age of Pirate Dreams
This age would be much like the Great Pirate Age, just darker as pirates would be more willing to sacrifice their nakama to further their own ends.


It is also possible that Luffy could start an age at this time. A number of situations could crop up where Luffy ends up being the figurehead of the new age. For example, if Luffy was the only one left standing at the end of the WB vs WG battle. Or if WB survived the battle but overheard Luffy declare that he is the "future pirate king", WB would probably challenge him.
 

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I believe that you're forgetting a few things:

The Super rookies
The dreams of the "Old" New Era


Each Super rookie is going to change the world into their image in some way. What makes them special is what has been said during the Saobondy arc, that they have gained notoriety fairly quickly for such crazy crews.

Yes, we hope for the Strawhat Crew. Think about it though, there's a LOT of "silvers" to Luffy's professed "Gold" standard. So who and what will be the new age?


The Old new Era is the upkeep of the same ideals of Gol Roger to the new pirates. Of course, Law seems to be fairly in this ideal as well as the Strawhats through Shanks. The most resistant to such a thing is Kidd. His chaotic nature says little to the fact of him fighting for anyone other than himself.
 

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The Age that Wowzers and JC123 mentioned are the Age that will occur as the result of this WB Arc. Don't forget the possibilities of interruption caused by Dragon, cause Oda only mentioned him a lil in old chapter, and in time there will be an Arc dedicated for Dragon, for that will be an Arc probably set for Luffy to get to a whole new level (since he is his dad), or probably out of blue Dragon will show up and cause a more messed up situation in there?hahaha
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

This age would be much like the Great Pirate Age, just darker as pirates would be more willing to sacrifice their nakama to further their own ends.
I don't believe BB would be willing to sacrifice his own nakama.
 

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I don't believe BB would be willing to sacrifice his own nakama.
if u really read One Piece, than u would understand why Wowzers said BB could sacrifice his own nakama, because:

Ace is aftering BB for something unforgivable in piracy, KILLING HIS OWN NAKAMA!!!

before post something please think carefully first =)
 

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The possible ages I posted are only the most obvious ones. Some have been (almost) clearly stated like Doflamingo's. Others have only been hinted at like Dragon's. There is a possibility that the new age will be a total surprise but Oda likes to plant clues to future events so I'll go with what I've seen so far.
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

My random thoughts:

Well new era is definitively coming..
and BB and Ace's fight triggered it.

it was hinted by shanks first..
the worlds balance is going to shift....

there is no pirate king currently because no one is able to dominate all other forces.. this new era is going t shift that balance giving someone a chance to dominate all and become Pirate King..

Moreover this new era belongs to the rising pirates not the old ones.. as it was hinted by Rayleigh that their (luffy and co's) era is about to begin.

Shanks i think is betting on luffy to do it. That's why he said about losing his arm

Shanks: ...I bet it on the "new era"...

P.s: I think there should be a separate thread about 'New Era' in tree of knowledge.
 

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P.s: I think there should be a separate thread about 'New Era' in tree of knowledge.
There is one. If you ever wanna see if there's a thread on a certain topic in the Tree of Knowledge, check the Index, it's usually kept pretty up to date.
 

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My own thoughts are that the new era will see the Monkeys united in an alliance that will shake the world.
 

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

man i already said that this arc was about the end of the era and the begining of a new one in my earlier posts but no one paid attention to it i guess. haha.

and im sure that the monkeys will not unite, they might help each others but unite. and i think that the new era is the begining of new rulers and new great power in the world, no more legends, for pirates i mean. the arrival of a new pirate king. but i think the begining of the new era will start with like some kind of neutral power. what i mean by that is that no one will be above everyone else. ok yes there will still be kaidou and shanks but they will not be recognized as rulers or wtv how you want to call them. all of this until someone will pop out and surpass everyone by becoming pirate king. and at that time, it will be the peak of the era. and by becoming pirate king, i mean people will start calling him by the name of pirate king. haha imagine luffys new bounty, monkey d luffy, pirate king, 600 million berries. thatd be cool, but id still want them to say mugiwara.
 
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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

Well given how different the Monkeys are, for them to ally would mean the world will shake as a result. Moreso Garp than the others, because though Revolutionary is a leap from pirate, even a slack and honourable marine is five skips and a triple jump from that.

The new era has already begun with Luffy's rise, because eras are only ever defined by history's depiction of the winner.
 

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What!!? Do you mean Oda actually knows who is going to win in advance?? :p
 

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That remember me of this VG Cats comic: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/070312.jpg
Zorro's hair-do reminds me of Grimmjow...

and im sure that the monkeys will not unite, they might help each others but unite. and i think that the new era is the begining of new rulers and new great power in the world, no more legends, for pirates i mean.
I agree that the Monkeys will not unite simply because they are all so powerful, infamous, and most of all, free-willed characters with vastly different values and goals. Can you imagine Luffy joining his father to bring down the World Government? Maybe, but Luffy's lifelong ambition is to find One Piece and have a jolly good time in the process, and Dragon's goal seems... a bit too serious for Luffy to undertake without some major character development and maturation (wow, this is a real word, lol).
 

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What I'm wondeirng is where is the other Yonkou......think about it guys, we have Wb fighting the WG (or about too) we have Kaid and Shanks fighting, so where is option number 4........If the original theory of "all the yonkou are stopping each other from reaching the end of the grandline" is still true then couldn't we have a new pirate king in a matter of chapters, i mean how much of a curve ball would that be. WB would be totally distracted, Shanks would have failed and Kaido well who the fuck knows, plus the WG would have stuffed up too, to me this sounds very Oda like, to do something no one saw coming......but who knows i know it far fetched, but hey this is Oda
 

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the younkou arent stoping eachother from reaching the end of the ocean. theyre called like so cause because theyre the closest pirates of one piece, or just becoming pirate king. and im pretty sure they just dont kno how to get to the other end or that they just cant right now. again with my suposition of a secret passage way that leads to raftel who only opens every like 25 years or so. think about it, its very possible. just like skypiea, theres 2 ways of going there, the knock up stream or by another sky island. probably its the same thing with raftel, except they just have to wait some time in order to get on it.
 

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I dunno though, I mean i doubt it's something like "you have to wait until this moment" true i also doubt it's just each Yonkou is stopping each other but i think that's probably a bit more likely that a time related issue.......i think it probably has something to do with the ancient language which tells you how to get into Raftel but who knows
 

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The world already is in the grand age of pirates, the first half of the red line is overrun with pirate crews. The new world is under the control of the yonkou and probably quite stable because of it. The new age will be the loss of balance in the new world. White beards islands will fall into chaos and more pirates and marines will enter the new world. So for me the new age will be: "grand age of pirates"^2. More chaos in the new world and the post White beard era.

Which reminds me, when White beard talked to shanks, he was talking about the old days and how few people remember them. Maybe the new age will see an end to all the people from those old days and not just White beard (as everyone is speculating his end is near). Perhaps Sengoku and maybe Garp will also face their end, thereby eliminating everyone who was left (and is still active) from the old age. They don't necessarily have to die though, Garp might also retire.
 

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yo i got a question, everyone says this arc is gonna take over a year. ive heard people discuss how long they thought it would take, but now people are talkin about it like if it was a fact. so ya is the thing about takin a year a fact or just a rumor?
 

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Oda said it would take about a year, but he tends to be a little inaccurate in that area as most of his arcs take longer than he says. :)
 
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