One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

[Razh]

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Sure, because he doesn't plan the story ahead, he just draws one chapter at a time.

 

[Phase]

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It probably is actual research, as weird as it sounds. I don't have any good ideas what he's researching unfortunately. But to give an example, Oda did a lot of research on trains before he introduced Puffing Tom, which was based on Puffing Billy, the world's first train (but it didn't look the same). Rocketman also had some historical basis to it. He also researched Venice before making Water 7, and aqua laguna is a very enhanced version of a yearly high tide they get in Venice where everyone has to wear rubber boots.

 

[Razh]

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In any case, he probably isn't researching anything that is going to be in the next couple of chapters.

 

[camil222]

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ya thats for sure. the next chapter and the next after that is probably almost done. they prob just need like to do paperwork and stuff like that to put it out. a well, probably something about marine ford or even like someone said researching the hormones in the body.

ivas fruit is actually really really strong. it doesnt look that strong at first but like he can easily kill anyone in a matter of minutes and even seconds, depending on the concentrations. i study in that so like hormones are what the body uses to balance itself and for developement of the body, etc. and those things can have a lot of negatives effect on the human body. anyway this fruit is kind of like kumas to me, at first youre like its no good, but after u see what he can do with it, its a really strong fruit.

 

[Wowzers]

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Yeah, your devil fruit is limited only by your imagination. Even intelligence isn't as important as imagination in this regard. A good example is Luffy vs Robin. Robin is one of the most intelligent people in one piece but her imagination is very low compared to Luffy's.

If she had better imagination she would be using her abilities in some pretty freaky ways, for example she can copy more than just her hands, she can copy pretty much any body part like her ear on the guy's back. She can also make arms that are larger than her own by combining them together like here.

If she can do these things she could also cover up the arms and legs of an opponent with her own arms and legs and essentially take over the body of another person and then use them to fight.

She could also put eyes and ears all over town to get info before going into town or if searching for something/someone. This ability by itself could be almost as good as mantra by keeping herself out of the frey and collecting knowledge along the way.

I wonder if she could stretch the ability to include complete copies of herself that could walk around and do things. She could work as a communication system by having a mouth and ears form and talk to you from a distance. There is a lot of untapped potential in this ability.

 

[Imitorar]

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Oda said once (and by once I mean about 10 years ago) that he had a 3 week buffer between chapters. Things may have changed since then, but he definitely does. It seems logical to say that all manga-ka do, otherwise things would be too stressful. This way they have time to fix things up and meet with the editors, instead of having to get the chapter from nothing to ready-to-be-printed in the space of 7 days. And that's assuming that manga-ka work on weekends.

And about Robin's powers, she's certainly smart enough to come up with those uses. Sometimes an intelligent grasp of a power's scope can do the same thing as unrestrained childlike creativity. But I think that it's a matter of concentration. Creating a complete clone would probably cause far too much mental stress for Robin to withstand. As it is, just keeping a hundred wings in existence while flying is too much for her to bear for more than 12 seconds, because of the physical and mental stress. However, if she disciplines her mind, Robin may eventually begin to make more complex copies wth her powers.

Though controlling another person's body would be hard, since that would take a lot of physical strength, and I think that physically, Robin isn't extraordinarily strong. And there's a distance limit to her powers, 200 Hana-Hanas, I believe, so setting up eyes and ears all over town would be difficult. But within a 200 Hana-Hana radius, it should work. But again, having a lot of body parts that far away would probably cause her a lot of mental stress.

 

[camil222]

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ya man that would be sick. robin could pop huge arms and legs, kind of like a gear 3, and she could fight giants. haha. but a clone would be pretty much mastering her fruit. if that would happen one day, id be awed. definately would be sick. and ya, robin isnt strong enough mentaly or physicaly to master her fruit.

 

[Wowzers]

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Sounds a lot like the 50 gomu gomu distance for Luffys stretching. I haven't heard of a distance limitation for Robin's powers but if a hana-hana = a gomu-gomu = 1 meter (or some reasonable approximation) that might match what we see in the manga. I think he comes up with these arbitrary values just so he can't be tied down due to artistic licence.

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Just though I'd add something. There is a far more practical reason for not producing legs and some other body parts... She can't copy clothes.

 

[Phase]

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Her body parts have to "bloom" out of something. A full clone that walks around isn't reasonable with the limitations on her ability. It would have to be attached to something like a flower is attached to the ground.

 

[Shurou]

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Just though I'd add something. There is a far more practical reason for not producing legs and some other body parts... She can't copy clothes.

Well, I wouldn't mind Robin copying certain other parts of her body as long as it's not on me and where I can play with them....

 

[Imitorar]

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Sounds a lot like the 50 gomu gomu distance for Luffys stretching. I haven't heard of a distance limitation for Robin's powers but if a hana-hana = a gomu-gomu = 1 meter (or some reasonable approximation) that might match what we see in the manga. I think he comes up with these arbitrary values just so he can't be tied down due to artistic licence.

Oh, he definitely makes this stuff up because he needs an answer, but doesn't wanna limit himself. I don't think that Oda ever bothers himself when drawing a scene about whether Luffy's stretched too far. But they're the best we've got and probably the best we'll ever get. Though I never interpeted a Gomu Gomu or a Hana Hana to be a meter, I figure that if he meant that, he'd have said meter. I figured it was the length of the Devil Fruit. Which is about as arbitrary a measurement as "Gomu Gomu" in the first place.

Just though I'd add something. There is a far more practical reason for not producing legs and some other body parts... She can't copy clothes.

We're talking about a guy who, when asked why a character who grew spikes from her body didn't have her clothes ripped, answered that then it would become an ecchi manga, and people would be embarrassed to buy it. I think he could make something up. Maybe have her grow them inside of dresses or something.

@Phase: I'm not sure, I think they can grow out of thin air. Otherwise, how could Crocodile have dodged her knife? The arm wasn't growing out of his back. Though I guess it could be that it started by growing out of his back, and then he broke away from it. Because it's true, she does need her body parts to grow out of something. Although a full clone is still theoretically possible, because she can grow body parts on top of each other.

 

[Phase]

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@Phase: I'm not sure, I think they can grow out of thin air. Otherwise, how could Crocodile have dodged her knife? The arm wasn't growing out of his back. Though I guess it could be that it started by growing out of his back, and then he broke away from it. Because it's true, she does need her body parts to grow out of something. Although a full clone is still theoretically possible, because she can grow body parts on top of each other.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/203/09/ shows that it was growing out of his shoulder. On the next page you see that he dissolved himself, but the area with the arm is still somewhat solid. Oda could probably have her do a full clone somehow if he really wanted to. I just don't really think that it fits her ability set.

If I had to guess, I'd say that if her body part loses its support then it will just disappear. I don't have any basis for that though, just a guess.

I liked the way the anime did it personally, where Croc just dissolved the part of his body where the water was going. The manga is the boss though.

 

[Imitorar]

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http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/203/09/ shows that it was growing out of his shoulder. On the next page you see that he dissolved himself, but the area with the arm is still somewhat solid. Oda could probably have her do a full clone somehow if he really wanted to. I just don't really think that it fits her ability set.

If I had to guess, I'd say that if her body part loses its support then it will just disappear. I don't have any basis for that though, just a guess.

I liked the way the anime did it personally, where Croc just dissolved the part of his body where the water was going. The manga is the boss though.

Not necessarily, part of the point of the anime is that it shows the in-between stuff that the manga doesn't, it's one of the limitations of the medium of manga. But I think that your explanations fit fine. It probably is that if her body part's support goes, the part fades. I think that solid bit in the second panel there was just a clump of speed lines or something, but it doesn't really matter so much.

 

[zelllogan]

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I wonder the number of chapters that will be needed to wait in order to see another strawhat in action. It should be sanji because he is on okama island but still, it seems so far away from the current situation.

 

[Gecko Moria]

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I wonder the number of chapters that will be needed to wait in order to see another strawhat in action. It should be sanji because he is on okama island but still, it seems so far away from the current situation.

I don't think we will be seeing another Strawhat in action soon as that would divert from the current action too much. Unless, one of the Strawhats has somehow sneaked into Impel Down (like Nami).

 

[camil222]

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no i really dont hope that the strawhats will sneak into impel down, i think that idea is so irealistic and i dont know why a lot of people think thats whats gonna happen. the worst i could see is if theyd meet up with luffy in like marineford or something with the boat after all meeting up with rayleigh and theyd escape the goverment by goin into fisman island, but like still i dont know about that. i mean they are so far away, like id say theyd need another week at least, minimum, to get back (zoro a year!).

and i also wish well get to see gorousei in this arc. like i dont know, the execution is at their domain and this event is such a big issue like everyone are getting mixed up, im sure theyll get involved somehow ( i dont mean theyll fight i just mean in the story ).

 

[k-dom]

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I think Zellogan question is rather how long Impel Down will still last ?
Personnaly I think another 15 chapters (wishing for less)

 

[Phase]

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no i really dont hope that the strawhats will sneak into impel down, i think that idea is so irealistic and i dont know why a lot of people think thats whats gonna happen. the worst i could see is if theyd meet up with luffy in like marineford or something with the boat after all meeting up with rayleigh and theyd escape the goverment by goin into fisman island, but like still i dont know about that. i mean they are so far away, like id say theyd need another week at least, minimum, to get back (zoro a year!).

How do you know how far away they are? We haven't been given the location of any island any of them were sent to except for Amazon Lily. Just the names were provided. Granted, Chopper is in South Blue and Robin is in East Blue. Both of those oceans border the first half of the Grand Line though, so they could both in effect be fairly close as well. Not to mention that Chopper will probably be flown in.

I'm not saying anyone's going to end up at ID, though if one person does I could accept that. I'm just saying there's no reason to assume they wont get back to SA before the execution.

 

[camil222]

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ya but the thing is lets just say theyre in loguetown ( the closest island in east blue to the entrance of the grand line ) just how long do u think it would take them to get back to shabondy, a shitload of time. but obviously theyll get lift by people and they can come threw the calm belt, but it would still take them a shitload of time.

plus the thing is how do they know luffys in impel down, well we dont kno if its in the newspaper, but i think the event will only appear after its done. and how the hell are they gonna get into impel down? its literaly impossible, even luffy alone probably couldnt have made it. and if theyd be to appear itd be right now, because theyre getting ace ready for the execution, and tell me how theyre gonna do that when theres half a buster call waiting for them outside. it just doesnt make sense to me. the only person i could see infiltrate impel down would be dragon, cause of his fruit ( well wind fruit ).

 

[Phase]

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ya but the thing is lets just say theyre in loguetown ( the closest island in east blue to the entrance of the grand line ) just how long do u think it would take them to get back to shabondy, a shitload of time. but obviously theyll get lift by people and they can come threw the calm belt, but it would still take them a shitload of time.

plus the thing is how do they know luffys in impel down, well we dont kno if its in the newspaper, but i think the event will only appear after its done. and how the hell are they gonna get into impel down? its literaly impossible, even luffy alone probably couldnt have made it. and if theyd be to appear itd be right now, because theyre getting ace ready for the execution, and tell me how theyre gonna do that when theres half a buster call waiting for them outside. it just doesnt make sense to me. the only person i could see infiltrate impel down would be dragon, cause of his fruit ( well wind fruit ).

Ok, Loguetown would be like the farthest you could get practically from SA. Of course they'll cross over the calm belt, there's no way Oda will make then go over reverse mountain and all the way through the entire first half of the grand line. You have absolutely no basis to say how long it would take to cross the calm belt.

It's nice that you're continuing your ID argument even though my last post stated quite specifically "I'm not saying anyone's going to end up at ID." I wont be surprised if one person ends up there, but why you assumed I meant they'd go there for Luffy is beyond me. Here's an idea, one of them gets captured and sent to ID. Wow, that was tough.