One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

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Re: One Piece Mega Convo (Spoilers!)

I don't know if it will take that much time. Time isn't something oda seems to care. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the strawhats appearing from nowherer in one of the following chapters. I doubt that we will see a big development for each character. It will be anticlimatic.
 

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Well the "Ace Escort Team" is 5 Vice Admirals and 5 Battleships but there is still all the other battleships outside that stay there so there probably is more than a full buster call outside. :)

As for the other strawhats showing up: I'm starting to get the feeling that Kuma sent them to islands that the revolution has under their control (or will soon) so it is possible that the individual strawhats will get rides with Dragon's forces to Shabony. In return they help out with the revolution's objectives... at least until they can meet up.
 

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As for the other strawhats showing up: I'm starting to get the feeling that Kuma sent them to islands that the revolution has under their control (or will soon) so it is possible that the individual strawhats will get rides with Dragon's forces to Shabony. In return they help out with the revolution's objectives... at least until they can meet up.
Wow, that's a pretty awesome idea that I had not thought of. Although it could only work for a few of them. Franky, Sanji, Usopp and Brook namely. Zoro is on a deserted island with Perona it seems, I'm very interested to see how he gets out of there. Chopper is in south blew, and will likely hitch a ride on one of those giant birds. Robin is on that bridge in east blue, but the bridge is under construction by the WG, so the revolutionary thing doesn't fit. Robin's story intrigues me the most, I know Oda has something way cooler in mind for it than I could think up. Finally, Nami is on a weather research sky island, and sky folk care not for blue sea politics.

Kuma's ability is to send people where they'd want to go on a trip, as best I can tell. This isn't so much naming a place as it is describing it, like we saw with Perona. It's possible to come up with a description of every island that sounds like something the person who sent there would say they'd want to see. The only one I can't figure out is Zoro.
 

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ya thatd be a good idea. and it would ad up to what ive been thinking that kuma is a spy inside the goverment for dragon, hes a revolutionnary to. thatd explain why he send them all to islands with revolutionnary. but i know a lot of people didnt like the idea of kuma being a spy working for dragon, but hey we never kno. last week one of the spoilers was the picture of dragon and in the background there was kuma. it got me all exited cuz i thought they were gonna say it, but ended up it wasnt even in the chapter.

and for zoros island, we know that its and island with a deserted castle, meaning there was a kingdom there before. so maybe, i dont know a lot about the revolutionnary and wat they do, but wat if a war was set on the island against the king or something like that and somehow everyone got killed. i could see something like that happening. but that means theres no one left on the island to bring zoro back. maybe its dragons secret base!!!!! haha obviously not.
 

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Well, the island Zoro is on was deserted due to warfare... at least that's what it looked like. Maybe the country revolted against the world government and most of it's people were sent to work on the bridge where Robin is. That bridge in my mind would be a prime target for the Revolution since they would free so many people that are sympathetic to their cause and possibly even their comrades.
 

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but what about luffys island? im sure kuma didnt know that luffy was gonna infiltrate impel down because with the help of hancock, especially that she hates all mens. his island was definately not part of the revolutionnary army or has to do something with it. and sanjis island, obviously iva use to live on it, but they said that hes no longer the okama queen, so probably didnt send him on that island for that reason.
 

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Well, in Luffy's case it's probably the obvious reason... Haki. Kuma probably wanted him to learn it, or at least get some notion of what it is. It is also an opportunity to shift the balance a bit in the shichibukai if Hancock was defeated. He probably thought that since the Amazons never let an intruder survive Luffy would be doing a lot of fighting against Haki... and that pretty much happened. Except, Luffy managed to do something a little unexpected there, and so Hancock didn't fight him. If he fought Hancock the fight would have been a lot more serious and he would have gotten better practical experience with it.... assuming he survived.

Things turned out very differently then expected.
 
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Well, in Luffy's case it's probably the obvious reason... Haki. Kuma probably wanted him to learn it, or at least get some notion of what it is. It is also an opportunity to shift the balance a bit in the shichibukai if Hancock was defeated. He probably thought that since the Amazons never let an intruder survive Luffy would be doing a lot of fighting against Haki... and that pretty much happened. Except, Luffy managed to do something a little unexpected there, and so Hancock didn't fight him. If he fought Hancock the fight would have been a lot more serious and he would have gotten better practical experience with it.... assuming he survived.

Things turned out very differently then expected.
Here's an idea.

Kuma: If you were going on a trip, where would you want to go?
Luffy: Somewhere that I'm absolutely never allowed to step foot in.
(I can provide a manga link that demonstrates this desire of his if necessary).

Amazon Lily, a place where no man is ever allowed to step foot.
 

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yo guys i just watched the latest anime today and theres something i wanted to ask. you kno how luffy punched that world noble in the face and it went all white and black, well did they meant haki by that. and another thing i dont like is the past episodes all they talk about is eyes. i dont kno but like i dont refer to haki with eyes.
 

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No, I don't think he used haki, at least not in the manga. I believe the Rayleigh was the first to introduce haki which is after luffy punches the dude in the face.
 

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nope, haki was first namely introduced by shanks as he went aboard whitebeards ship, then it was first actively introduced with the sfx as Luffy knocked the bull out and the next time we saw it was the episode/chapter before the punch when rayleigh knocks out disco with both being namely mentioned and sfx (afair)

but yeah, I also don't think that had anything to do with haki unless they are already differing diffrent types
 
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Does anybody know why Oda skipped gear first
 

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Does anybody know why Oda skipped gear first
First gear would be like Luffy's base condition. So he's in first gear whenever he's not in second or third gear. You can't "gear up" unless you're in a gear to begin with.
 

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Kuma's ability is to send people where they'd want to go on a trip, as best I can tell. This isn't so much naming a place as it is describing it, like we saw with Perona. It's possible to come up with a description of every island that sounds like something the person who sent there would say they'd want to see. The only one I can't figure out is Zoro.
Pretty close there, but i think Kuma wanted to teach something to anyone of the Sh's.
I dont think Sanji would have wanted to see G%y Island, rather than that Kuma fed him up with his own lovesick medicine. It may change Sanji's attitude towards women forever ! ( i hope not :D )
It's easy to guess Kuma intentions for the other Crewmembers, cept for Zorro. He just might have a crush on Perona :) or he simply asked for some better sword, we just don't realy know the intention yet.
 

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Ah about Kuma intention, actually I started this thread in Tree of Knowledge http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42574. So I want to talk something else. Garp said to Luffy that he met his son/Luffy Father's. Did he also treated him like he does to Luffy (hitting his head real hard :D)? Also in normal circumstance will he also did it with Ace? Is that his kind of love for his descendants :D. I bet he will do, and I want see it when it happened to Dragon :XD
 

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Hi~~
After some weeks hanging around, i decided to take part in the conversations and to start with One Piece which keeps surprising me every week :)

I think it was a pretty good choice to focus on Luffy for the time being. After all, he's the main character, bound to become the Pirate king in the end and it's better to follow him now and see how he gets prepared for the New world cause as he was in the Shabondy islands, unfortunately he was obviously useless against the top brass of the Marines.
Now His will to survive developed in ID, and probby his haki too. He will come out of ID a new man, much more badass than ever which is a real necessity ! In each arc, he's supposed to be the one to save all the crew by kicking the badguy's ass but recently he proved he wasn't on an equal footing with the New world dudes. I think there was no other way round for Oda to get Luffy prepared other than having him undergo a personal adventure. In Enies Lobby he developed his gears while still with the others but, strong as the CP9 was, it was nothing compared to the New world and the gears were enough.
But now, Luffy needs to be part of another league and it just couldn't happen with only regular adventures with the crew. So now i'm pretty happy with the way it goes.

YET i miss the crew so much !!!!! Part of what makes OP so great, apart from the imagination of Oda ^^ is the fun you get from witnessing the life of the crew, the friendship, the jokes, their shortcomings and eccentricity ^^ I must admit i miss it a lot and i wish we meet the crew soon... But Oda said the ID arc would last a full year worth of time and i guess we'll just have to be patient...
At least the humour is still going on wild in this arc, so it's fine, but god i miss the crew !

Nevertheless, i guess they'll be incredibly stronger/wiser when they meet again after their little adventures. And it's quite necessary for what's awaiting them.
It was mentionned in this thread that Kuma probby chose a few islands in relation with the revolutionaries. I think too that it's likely even though we can't be sure. But, it's clear that Luffy being the son of Dragon is a highly confidential piece of information. Nobody knows except Garp. Even Ivankov who is close to Dragon was shocked when he learnt. And yet, Kuma knows and saved the crew... He's probby close to Dragon too and some islands where he sent the SH must be safe for them to some extent, because of the revolution.

Pretty close there, but i think Kuma wanted to teach something to anyone of the Sh's.
I dont think Sanji would have wanted to see G%y Island, rather than that Kuma fed him up with his own lovesick medicine. It may change Sanji's attitude towards women forever ! ( i hope not :D )
It's easy to guess Kuma intentions for the other Crewmembers, cept for Zorro. He just might have a crush on Perona :) or he simply asked for some better sword, we just don't realy know the intention yet.
Well, as to Zoro I thought about it too, and the only thing Zoro has wanted since he was defeated by Kuma is to get stronger. Physically wise, he's top. But regarding his mental, he was easily defeated by Perona and her ghosts, like everyone else btw, except for Usopp :p
But anyway i think he needs to win against Perona to get free cause he's bound for the time being, and without his katanas. He needs to overcome the ghosts...
He might even develop some Haki. Why not ? After all, Rayleigh was the second, just like Zoro is, and can use haki perfectly well. It's not meant only for the captain. The marine guy with the axe probby had haki too and the gorgon sisters could use it too. Even in the sky islands, the mantra to predict the movements was probby some haki too. I guess Zoro should be using it in the end. When he fought against Kaku, Kaku said that he was frightening because of the aura that emanated from him. It may be a first step. And if he builds up his mental against Perona, who knows what might happen.
Anyway, we'll only know in a few months what will really happen >.<

But master Oda will surprise us as usual and i couldn't be more delighted :)
 

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Welcome Clisambre! We always welcome fresh meat viewpoints! :)

Yes, I agree that Luffy needs to be stronger to face the new world. Comparing what happened at Ennis Lobby with the two arcs that followed, we clearly see that Luffy needed the help of the crew to fight Gekko Moria at Thriller Bark and then they were simply overwelmed by multiple stong opponents at Shabony. Luffy needs to be strong enough to take out Gekko Moria or other similarly strong characters singlehandedly. The crew needs to be strong enough to at least hold off multiple strong opponents until Luffy can get to them. And preferably, the crew could take out the opponent themselves.

Ideally, in best condition, each of the monster trio should be able to take out a Shichibukai level character while the rest of the crew holds off a fourth. I think that is the kind of strength the crew will need to have to survive the new world.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nami or Usopp take out a Passifista when the crew rejoins... We saw that they were both able to damage the one they were fighting at SA so lightning and internal explosions have an effect on them. Also, Nami might have some luck using mirage tempo to prevent the laser beams from targeting her as she can bend the path of light around her. Ussop could focus on attacking the human components of the Passifista. It's not all robot.
 

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Well I think that usopp and nami were the ones that ake the most damage to the pacifista, if it wasn't for usopp blowing the internal organs and nami with the electricity the pacifista wasn't "deth" by this time.
I say that when the crew rejoins Usopp will be at sanji level, nami and chopper at zoro level, sanji at luffy level, zoro at 5 super novas fusion lvl, and luffy at Shiyonkou lvl (betwieen a shishi an d a yonkou hahah)

I'm wondering what lvl are the gorgon sisters, cause if luffy needed gear 2 to fight them the 2 together will be able to fight croc??
 

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luffys already at the level of a shichibukai. like he alreadly beat 2 of them. and wat the hell man? ur prediction are obviously false. like thats way to strong. theres no way nami and chopper could be at zoros level. like your prediction just dont make sense, sorry man.
 

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rating luffy, zorro, sanji... (1-10, where luffy is 10)

luffy (x)= 10

zorro (y)= x - 2 (10-2)

sanji (z)= y-1.5 (10-2-1.5)

so, luffy=10; zorro=8; sanji=6.5


wat do u say?
 
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