One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 1st Chapter

[Gcat88]

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I really hopr that WB doesnt die. i mean it would make PERFECT sense but he jus cant. if he did die, Ace would lead the whitebeard pirates. The marines wont lose anyone too special. i think that the new era will be an era of marine power and not so much pirate. in other words, marines will be a lot more feared and pirates will have to show that they are dangerous ppl.
The Gorousei are jus a council of Elders they wont do much, unless someone invades their castle, will happen a one point in the series.
All the really cool powers, or powers that are obviously strong, are saved for the higher up ppl. but if u think bout it, not everyone powerful person is a DF user.
Kuma wont cross over. he did that to save the SH but he cant do that again ppl would see him and he would become an enemy of the state.

 

[arsene.lupin]

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if WB die, i don't think Ace would lead WB pirates, cause his goal is to make WB pirate king.
if WB die, maybe he will be back to Spade pirate or join SH Crew.

 

[goldb]

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If Ace survives the war, he wouldn't join the SHs cos he's stronger than Luffy and it doesn't make sense for him to be a subordinate in his younger brother's crew and I doubt either of them would agree on a partnership or anything.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

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if WB die, maybe he will be back to Spade pirate

From now on, the ex-Spade pirates are as much his nakamas as the other WB pirates. Then, either he stays with the WB pirates (among the ones are the ex-Spade pirates), either he leaves the crew.

 

[Gcat88]

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This is why i STRONGLY believe that WB wont die. it would ruin a lot of things. So many in another thread say that they dont want Akainu to have a DF, do you guys agree with that??

 

[Raysen_ht]

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I dont think Ace will survive this one... I mean, if the marines have any brains at all, someone is just going to slit his throat and be done with it! Its not like he has any value to the marines (like Robin had to Spandam). Its like he is a hostage, and in case of an attack, the hostage is allways the first one to get shot! The time of the execution dont mean a thing anymore, its a fuc*** war

 

[Amida]

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Whitebeard's death doesn't mean someone has to take over for him. The WB pirates could dissolve into their former crews, or split up division wise. They could also be absorbed by Shanks. The whole WB crew could also be destroyed so that there's very little left to salvage, solving the problem in an easy manner (death). I still strongly believe WB will be the first significant character to die in One Piece. We still have the other Pirate Lords (whatever the most accurate translation of their title is) that could absorb his crew.

For potential losses on the marine side I'd say Garp is a 50/50. It doesn't really matter. He's served his purpose pretty much in revealing Luffy and Ace's past, along with how he's not all for the marines. I don't believe an Admiral will die either. We barely know 2 of them and Aokiji is enmeshed in the story heavily. The head Marine could die (forget his name...), along with the three giants (again...I'm fuzzy on their names at the moment), and pretty much all the main marine force since they vastly outnumber the pirates. That would be an equal trade for the pirate force attacking, and Whitebeard's death.

Will Luffy show up to 'save the day' or will he arrive too late to do anything? Haha, and what is Boa Hancock going to do if Luffy shows up? I'm thinking she'll switch sides.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

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I dont think Ace will survive this one... I mean, if the marines have any brains at all, someone is just going to slit his throat and be done with it! Its not like he has any value to the marines (like Robin had to Spandam). Its like he is a hostage, and in case of an attack, the hostage is allways the first one to get shot! The time of the execution dont mean a thing anymore, its a fuc*** war

I think that this is what would exactly happen if it was a private affair between marines and pirates BUT the problem is that the whole world has its eyes upon MHQ.
Indeed, you must remember that there are some special den-den mushis that send videos to Shabondy Archipelago, an archipelago full or journalists.
I think that means it would be worst than a shame, it would create a big political problem, that the ones that represent the most the justice of the system of the WG do a summary execution in front of everyone. And when you know we talk about Ace, the unique son of Gol D. Roger, this is worst.
Then, I do not think it could happen.

 

[chess4]

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i think ace will survive and whatever happens the Wg will be severly crippled in this fight.

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[Gcat88]

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Ace will survive and SO WILL WHITEBEARD!!! i dont know what to think about WG. a part of me says they will show their strength and will even frighten pirates, maybe going into an age where pirates are truly afraid of them. OR the WG will get so crippled that Pirates will rule and the shiki might even leave them and then the three great powers will become two; perhaps another one will rise.

 

[Poneglyph420]

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Ace will survive and SO WILL WHITEBEARD!!! i dont know what to think about WG. a part of me says they will show their strength and will even frighten pirates, maybe going into an age where pirates are truly afraid of them. OR the WG will get so crippled that Pirates will rule and the shiki might even leave them and then the three great powers will become two; perhaps another one will rise.

I want to think WB could make it and if it was just the enemies of the WG he could. But there are people on "Luffy's" ship who want him dead..powerful ones. And more importantly there's BB if he makes it in time..I think he will..

I see that the yonkou could be deeply damaged as WB is fighting the WG and the Shichibukai.. and Shanks and Kaidou..

I think the new power to rise is the Revolutionary Army and Dragon..
Otherwise it's the changing of the guard.

It's' the fight of the Ages, last chapter last page..That's it.

 

[Amida]

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Ace will survive and SO WILL WHITEBEARD!!!....

Why do you reason that Whitebeard won't die? It makes sense in most every way. I kind of hope he doesn't, but at the same time it's fitting for him to die.

 

[KouYa Danni]

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Maybe those old men from WG will interfere with the fight and tell Sengoku to let go of Ace. After all the only reason they got hold of Roger is that he surrendered.

If WB really wants to destroy Marineford he can sink it to the sea then save Ace.

 

[Gcat88]

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TOTALLY agree with the Revolution rising.
If WB dies than Ace's goal dies. In OP a person's goal is their life line. when ppl complete that goal or it becomes obsolete they lose their purpose. I believe that killin WB is the same thing as killin Ace. so i think that if WB was to die than Ace should as well.

 

[Raysen_ht]

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I think that this is what would exactly happen if it was a private affair between marines and pirates BUT the problem is that the whole world has its eyes upon MHQ.
Indeed, you must remember that there are some special den-den mushis that send videos to Shabondy Archipelago, an archipelago full or journalists.
I think that means it would be worst than a shame, it would create a big political problem, that the ones that represent the most the justice of the system of the WG do a summary execution in front of everyone. And when you know we talk about Ace, the unique son of Gol D. Roger, this is worst.
Then, I do not think it could happen.

The Marines are afraid they could loose to WB. Dont you think it would be a worst political problem if they fail to execute Ace altogether?? I mean, even if they win the war against WB, if Ace escapes they lose!! Cause the world will lose the confidence they have on the sistem.
WB has already attacked, if Ace lives or dies is irelevant to the war... its already happening. And the way i see it, WB has only 1 objective: Save Ace. So if Ace is taken out, WB fails no matter what. So thats why i think the reasonable thing to do is killing Ace NOW!

But I know that´s not Oda´s style... still, its the most logical thing in that kind of situation!! Making sure the guilty one is punished!


I also agree that the revolutionares will rise as one of the top powers of the world after this war is over

 

[Amida]

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If WB dies than Ace's goal dies. In OP a person's goal is their life line. when ppl complete that goal or it becomes obsolete they lose their purpose. I believe that killin WB is the same thing as killin Ace. so i think that if WB was to die than Ace should as well.

Ace's other goal is revenge. WB's death just makes that his one true goal instead of making WB the pirate king AND revenge for sullying his name. So Ace wouldn't die either, but he would be given a new goal.

 

[chess4]

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since ace has been revealed to be rogers son, i dont think he can be just a side character anymore. i think he will have to be a main character thereby joining the strawhats. i know, that he is stronger than luffy and why would he follow luffy and not whitebeard. thats just my opinion

 

[Poneglyph420]

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since ace has been revealed to be rogers son, i dont think he can be just a side character anymore. i think he will have to be a main character thereby joining the strawhats. i know, that he is stronger than luffy and why would he follow luffy and not whitebeard. thats just my opinion

If Ace joins that would be cool, but would make Ace a back stabbing wretch like BB, Not likely. Knowing WB was aiming to help make Ace Pirate King, he couldn't serve as 1st mate or as a crewmember.

More likely like Boa he will remain a close ally of the SH and help/save them in the future, but as the reborn Spade Captn. or as an alliance of the commanders of WB who survive.

Just IMHO...

 

[Aikidoka]

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I agree with Poneglyph.

Like I said with Boa Hancock and Jimbei, the SHs need some ally crews of their own if they want to make it in the New World. WB's a Yonkou and he has all these ally crews supporting him, and I think the SHs should work toward that. IMO right now the priority isn't how many people they should have in their crew, but how many crews should support them.

So if Ace survives (which I personally doubt), he would be more useful to the SHs as an ally, not a crewmate.

 

[Gcat88]

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Ace has to survive it wouldnt make sense for him to die now. the entire arc has been HEY LETS SAVE ACE. If he dies the most dangerous bloodline ever will have died also. WB,IMO, shouldnt die. we jus got to c his power and i actually believe that we still have a lot to learn bout him. P.S. wouldnt mind at all if roger has a second son.