One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[Uriel]

Actually, this [mention of this "one more thing"] doesn't show up in Mangastream's translation, so I took a look at the raw and found no reason for this remark. All Blackbeard says imho is: "Zehahahaha, you could say I was aiming for that, and only that, from the beginning!! Now you catch on."
I also wrote a comment under cnet's translation, so maybe the confusion will be cleared up.

Oh, this is useful. Thanks for the clarification, I was thinking about that line myself too much.

I thought He released almost every prisoner on Impel Down of Level 5 and 6 XD

 

[Black Lagoon]

I hope the WG doesn't chose two new Shichibukais, I always figured that the Pacifistas were created to replace them also it wouldn't surprise me if Vegapunk improved the Pacifistas after Shabondy considering that he completed his work on Kuma, but this war showed that he still have a long way to go so they can replace the Shichis and the Admirals.

 

[Bugzee]

I think the Pacisfistas will defintely be upgraded/improved in the future. They failed in this war, I thought they would have a bigger role to play but meh. I'm so p**sed that Kuma/PX-Zero didn't come back and do something interesting. I really hoped Iva or someone would "revive" him to his true self again but that didn't happen.

I also wanted to see a Sento Vs Jozu confrontation damn it! Oh well...

 

[Black Lagoon]

they caused some troubles to the pirates but weren't enough to stop them, I know the walls part wasn't good for them, but I expected more from them as well as I expected more from the NEW WORLD PIRATES.

 

[c0nflikt]

I think the Pacisfistas will defintely be upgraded/improved in the future. They failed in this war, I thought they would have a bigger role to play but meh. I'm so p**sed that Kuma/PX-Zero didn't come back and do something interesting. I really hoped Iva or someone would "revive" him to his true self again but that didn't happen.

I also wanted to see a Sento Vs Jozu confrontation damn it! Oh well...

Kuma was just plothax he was there as a plot device and Oda knew he had to nerf him sooner or later, taking the pain from someone was just too much, high pressured bombs, air bullet things, repelling anything with his paws, and teleporting people. Terribly overpowered.

 

[goldb]

For me the NW pirates were the biggest disappointments of the war, they didn't convince; that's is unless Oda has another part for them to play.
Guys can you clear something up for me please, in the flashback when Shiryuu is first show you can see the shaded part of a wing, which was also shown in the anime episode last sunday. My question is what happened to it? Becaue I looked carefully and it hasn't been shown ever again.

 

[bittman]

New world pirates are just pirates that passed Fishman Island. Capone will be a new world pirate in about 2 days (or something?), as will the rest of his family underneath him.

So weaklings like Capone's family are to be "New World pirates".

I never expected a ton out of them. Oda already had to try fit in 13 division comanders and Whitebeard and only managed to fit in about 4.

As for Shiryuu: yeah I thought he had wings like Magellan's also? Let me go look for that page...

EDIT:
Sillouette - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/538/11/
After - http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/542/10/

He does have a coat over his clothes though. So it's not really a "mistake by Oda" yet.

 

[White Silver King]

Kuma was just plothax he was there as a plot device and Oda knew he had to nerf him sooner or later, taking the pain from someone was just too much, high pressured bombs, air bullet things, repelling anything with his paws, and teleporting people. Terribly overpowered.

Not really, because his hands have to touch what he wants to use his powers on. His powers would be useless on BB, a logia (I'm positive a cyborg can't have "spirit energy" or whatever to hit a logia), anyone who can fly, Jimbei, etc. And we've seen most the big characters are fast enough to evade his long-range attacks.

 

[elitefox]

Kuma was just plothax he was there as a plot device and Oda knew he had to nerf him sooner or later, taking the pain from someone was just too much, high pressured bombs, air bullet things, repelling anything with his paws, and teleporting people. Terribly overpowered.

Well same goes for BB, sucking injuries, sucking everything, they are the counter part of the world

 

[Fox666]

Kuma was just plothax he was there as a plot device and Oda knew he had to nerf him sooner or later, taking the pain from someone was just too much, high pressured bombs, air bullet things, repelling anything with his paws, and teleporting people. Terribly overpowered.

I don't think see. Kuma has some good abilities, but isn't that powerfull. He just took the Strawhats all injured. But he still got a direct slash by Zoro (if he wasn't a cyborg would he be done?) and couldn't defeat Ivankov. So he is not that amazing...

 

[Uriel]

For me the NW pirates were the biggest disappointments of the war, they didn't convince; that's is unless Oda has another part for them to play.

That were only WB allies. We don't know how many other pirates are and how strong they are. And we also did not see more than a might chaos of pirates and marines fighting without knowing their rank or power.

Also, don't underestimate Marines neither. They're strong.

 

[bittman]

I don't think see. Kuma has some good abilities, but isn't that powerfull. He just took the Strawhats all injured. But he still got a direct slash by Zoro (if he wasn't a cyborg would he be done?) and couldn't defeat Ivankov. So he is not that amazing...

You mean the same guy that blew up half of Thriller Bark, instantly wins battles by sending people 3 days away, takes Zoro's steel-cutting attack, reflected a Gear 2 Luffy, teleports to dodge and breaks Sanji's legs with his chin wasn't impressive?

Can't deny the Iva thing though. That's why we've been saying that Kuma got un-haxed by getting a cyborg brain. Bit hard to beat someone who teleports, reflect, shoots lasers and has a body harder than steel.

 

[elitefox]

You mean the same guy that blew up half of Thriller Bark, instantly wins battles by sending people 3 days away, takes Zoro's steel-cutting attack, reflected a Gear 2 Luffy, teleports to dodge and breaks Sanji's legs with his chin wasn't impressive?

Can't deny the Iva thing though. That's why we've been saying that Kuma got un-haxed by getting a cyborg brain. Bit hard to beat someone who teleports, reflect, shoots lasers and has a body harder than steel.

Yup they have remove the most valuable part of a fighter...

but they did get one thing though

LOYALTY

 

[goldb]

Kuma's ability is amongst some of my favourites and he uses it to great proficiency. I think during this war what we've seen as far as the SHs are concerned is the level to be reached. For example the difference in strength between Iva and Sanji vs Kuma; whereas Iva could kick him and will and showed no sign of injury or what, Sanji was hurt after a few kicks. Its not really a good comparison but hopefully Sanji will come back from Kamabakka with something. I can't wait for the story to get back to the SHs.

 

[SuperShuter]

I think the Pacisfistas will defintely be upgraded/improved in the future. They failed in this war, I thought they would have a bigger role to play but meh. I'm so p**sed that Kuma/PX-Zero didn't come back and do something interesting. I really hoped Iva or someone would "revive" him to his true self again but that didn't happen.

I also wanted to see a Sento Vs Jozu confrontation damn it! Oh well...

The way i see it the manga should cover all the important fights but if they put to much fighting in it either makes plot development to slow or they have to make all these twists out of every fight which can get complicated. I'm hoping to widen the gap this is a good oportunity for the anime to spend ages on this war adding in their own aditional fights seeing as we pretty much know you can make good fights out of vice admirals, whitebeard captains (lower tier) warlords and whitebeard captains (higher tier) like just using the manga as a guidline

 

[Gcat88]

that would make too much filler and it wouldnt help because if later on theres a fight that wasnt suppose to have happened before???

 

[goldb]

Havinf filler battles would mean prolonging battles that only lasted a panel, for example Mihawk vs Das Bones, or Crocodile or the Newkama pair that attacked him; something like that or even against Vista. And don't forget they showed Jonathan in the marineford scene, so I'm guessing he's gonna have strategic role to play alongside Sengoku.

 

[Marche]

Who is Jonathan?????? I don't remember him.

 

[Black Lagoon]

Who is Jonathan?????? I don't remember him.

here http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Johnathan

 

[Gcat88]

he would fit quite well in an extended anime filler eps.