One Piece Ranking System...

[BlackSword]

Okay... we are randomly arguing for no reason... The current discussion is the ranking of the supernova's... Only one person has given a decent post and stated reasons why they should be ranked they way he suggested.
The argument of Shanks/Mihawk has its own thread please take the discussion there. The Crocodile discussion has been going on for roughly 5 pages... Your not going to come up with some crushing new evidence that says Crocodile is a god or a scrub so please stop discussing that aswell...

To all of you that come in here just to say how you dislike this thread or that it is a stupid idea... I have a crushing surprise for you... Your mouse brought you here... In the future go elsewhere it, I didn't force you to come here or force your eyes to read this thread. I'm not trying to make a 'Dragon Ballz' Ranking system that says this amount of power can beat A and this amount of power can beat B... If you read my original post it says just that... So take your annoying complaining elsewhere...

Furthermore I have stated on multiple occasions WE WILL NOT RANK FILLER/MOVIE CHARACTERS. For the obvious reason of they are outside of the main plot and serve no purpose in this ranking system.

CURRENT TOPIC:
Supernovas & Random side characters and their ranks.

Randoms:
Inazuma - 6 You really think Inazuma is on the same level as smoker?
Helmeppo - 2
Hina - 4
Ryuuma - 4.5
Oars - 6 (I ranked Oars at 6.5 He was just really big imo.)
Demon Guards - 3.5
Sadi-chan - 4 (She got tied up bondage style after fighting Ivankov... She became the submissive!)
Hannyabal - 4.5 (I agree with that ranking...)
Wapol - I don't even think he should have a rank... He kinda gets owned without much difficulty...
kuro - 1 <--- How is it that Kuro is above Don Kreig? He only knocked his boss out after Luffy almost beat him to death... And it was a surprise attack...
don kreig - 0.5 <--- Sure...

Supernovas:
Basil Hawkins - 6
XDrake - 6
Kidd - 6
Scratchman Apoo - 4.5?
Jewelery Bonney - 4.5?
Killer - 5?
Capone Bege - 3
Urouge - 4.5

Ok I would rank them like this :

Hawkins : 1 fight , 1 loss. But against an admiral. Doesn't look weaker than the 3 "big" (in screentime) supernova. So 6.
Drake : Has the same difficulty against a pacifista that the SH. He seems rather important for the plot (I bet he will eventually) , so he has to be strong. Plus cool fruit. 6 too. 5.5 at least.
Kidd and Law : The plot wants them at the same rank than Luffy.
Killer : same rank than Zoro. 5 if I remember correctly.
Boney : Dunno. Really she is unpredictable. She's weaker than the BB pirates. Ok , as the other SN I guess. I'ld put her at 5 .. but I am not that convinced.
Apoo : Didn't impress me. He took a long time to hit Kizaru. I'ld put him around 4.5.
Urouge : Raw force. Plus even rawer force. 4 at best.
Capone : Alone (without his crew) , from that we have seen. It's the weakest. 3. At best
Beppo : A kung fu adept talking polar bear. In a orange suit. Too awesome to be ranked below 8.

Note that I assume Bepo being ranked an 8 is a joke...

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Okay... we are randomly arguing for no reason... The current discussion is the ranking of the supernova's... Only one person has given a decent post and stated reasons why they should be ranked they way he suggested.
The argument of Shanks/Mihawk has its own thread please take the discussion there. The Crocodile discussion has been going on for roughly 5 pages... Your not going to come up with some crushing new evidence that says Crocodile is a god or a scrub so please stop discussing that aswell...

To all of you that come in here just to say how you dislike this thread or that it is a stupid idea... I have a crushing surprise for you... Your mouse brought you here... In the future go elsewhere it, I didn't force you to come here or force your eyes to read this thread. I'm not trying to make a 'Dragon Ballz' Ranking system that says this amount of power can beat A and this amount of power can beat B... If you read my original post it says just that... So take your annoying complaining elsewhere...

Furthermore I have stated on multiple occasions WE WILL NOT RANK FILLER/MOVIE CHARACTERS. For the obvious reason of they are outside of the main plot and serve no purpose in this ranking system.

CURRENT TOPIC:
Supernovas & Random side characters and their ranks.



Note that I assume Bepo being ranked an 8 is a joke...

I agree with the super nova ranking i would put Bepo at 4 or 4.5 for real

i hope Shiki makes another Manga apperance and he is still a canon character but for now i will respect your wishes and refrain from metioning him

 

[Schabrak]

WE WILL NOT RANK FILLER/MOVIE CHARACTERS.

Capitals wont make it any more effective nor official, since your are no Mod nor spokesman for the users, you should keep that "we" to yourself. And I'm free to give my honest oppinion on whatever discussion I like. As many have already mentioned, Shiki is and will stay a canon character even though we haven't seen him apart from chapter 0, which was a manga chapter, which was canon showing many canon characters and their prior look, in it and has lead to Shiki being imprisoned, escaping and being mentioned in the Impel Down arc. If the movie is filler or not is for Oda to decide, has it's own thread with an ongoing discussion, so let's keep it at that.

 

[BlackSword]

Capitals wont make it any more effective nor official, since your are no Mod nor spokesman for the users, you should keep that "we" to yourself. And I'm free to give my honest oppinion on whatever discussion I like. As many have already mentioned, Shiki is and will stay a canon character even though we haven't seen him apart from chapter 0, which was a manga chapter, which was canon showing many canon characters and their prior look, in it and has lead to Shiki being imprisoned, escaping and being mentioned in the Impel Down arc. If the movie is filler or not is for Oda to decide, has it's own thread with an ongoing discussion, so let's keep it at that.

Capital letters tend to draw the eye. And seeing as I've said it multiple times I was hoping it would catch peoples eyes. I'm not trying to mini-mode or anything I'm simply tired of repeating myself...

 

[Fox666]

I don't see any reason to say that Shiki is a filler character. As far I know, Oda also worked on the movie story.

Of course it's questionable of Luffy fighting a rival of Roger... but Luffy vs Crocodile still cause lots of discussion on this forum.

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The only comparison we have for the Supernovas are their bounties. While I don't think it's 100% precise, it's the best we have. So the best would be to classify the 200m+ and 200m- separately?

Either way, I don't think Bonney is as strong as the other Supernovas. it seems like that the Government wants her for other purposes. So I expect her bounty of over 100 million being kind of like Robin bounty of 79 million as a child.

 

[BlackSword]

I think a lot of people were using the Kizaru & Pacifista vs Hawkins, Apoo, XDrake & Urouge to judge the Supernovas.

 

[DARK]

How is Shiki ever a filler character?

Oda personally wrote the story for Strong World himself; Toei literally begged Oda to create the storyline for the 10th anniversary animation movie. To add more into this, Oda also published a manga side-story detailing the events of Gol D. Roger's execution, how it affected those who came to witness it, and Shiki being imprisoned in Impel Down.

When Luffy manages to break into Impel Down, Sengoku and Garp reflect that it was the first time that somebody caused a ruckus there since "Kinjishi." (Shiki) If Shiki was mentioned in a canonical arc, one could really question if his existence is "filler." There's no way Oda would insert the movie antagonist's name into such an important conversation, and still have him consider the person filler. (The manga wasn't purely advertising the movie you know).

Shiki is obviously not some "filler" character, his very existence is tied into the heart of the story. Shiki was unable to defeat Roger in battle, but his reputation in battle is frightening to say the least. If I had to place him on the tier system, Shiki would be Level 9.5 (in his prime). He is quite not on the level of Roger or Whitebeard, but is as notorious and fear-invoking.

Again, I still need to know why Hancock is high up on the ranking list, especially since we know very little of her battle style and the amounts of fights she had been in are limited (she only fought Smoker in the Marineford war). She may be a Shichibukai and has Kuja (Haoushoku) haki, but I still don't understand her placement. She may be the Pirate Empress, but her reputation isn't compared to the likes of the "World's Greatest Swordsman" or even Blackbeard himself.

Hancock's bounty is lower than most of the other Shichibukai thus far as well. There would be no point placing her in the stead of their progress unless we have seen her prove herself in battle. That's not to say that she isn't high up on the list, but not as high as, say, Level 8. I don't see how she could be any better than Jinbei, Crocodile, or Inankov in battle. How she might be able to defeat Ace or Shiryuu, I have no clue.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

How is Shiki ever a filler character?

Oda personally wrote the story for Strong World himself; Toei literally begged Oda to create the storyline for the 10th anniversary animation movie. To add more into this, Oda also published a manga side-story detailing the events of Gol D. Roger's execution, how it affected those who came to witness it, and Shiki being imprisoned in Impel Down.

When Luffy manages to break into Impel Down, Sengoku and Garp reflect that it was the first time that somebody caused a ruckus there since "Kinjishi." (Shiki) If Shiki was mentioned in a canonical arc, one could really question if his existence is "filler." There's no way Oda would insert the movie antagonist's name into such an important conversation, and still have him consider the person filler. (The manga wasn't purely advertising the movie you know).

Shiki is obviously not some "filler" character, his very existence is tied into the heart of the story. Shiki was unable to defeat Roger in battle, but his reputation in battle is frightening to say the least. If I had to place him on the tier system, Shiki would be Level 9.5 (in his prime). He is quite not on the level of Roger or Whitebeard, but is as notorious and fear-invoking.

Again, I still need to know why Hancock is high up on the ranking list, especially since we know very little of her battle style and the amounts of fights she had been in are limited (she only fought Smoker in the Marineford war). She may be a Shichibukai and has Kuja (Haoushoku) haki, but I still don't understand her placement. She may be the Pirate Empress, but her reputation isn't compared to the likes of the "World's Greatest Swordsman" or even Blackbeard himself.

Hancock's bounty is lower than most of the other Shichibukai thus far as well. There would be no point placing her in the stead of their progress unless we have seen her prove herself in battle. That's not to say that she isn't high up on the list, but not as high as, say, Level 8. I don't see how she could be any better than Jinbei, Crocodile, or Inankov in battle. How she might be able to defeat Ace or Shiryuu, I have no clue.

I agree with you but one thing the only reason Hancocks bounty was low like Croc's was because after one campain she got her High (for Starting) Bounty and was theb asked ti join the Shichibukai Crocodile had a low bounty too so I bet he became a Shichibukai early in his career too

 

[St Michael]

Note that I assume Bepo being ranked an 8 is a joke...

Hehe , yes it was. Even if ..

edit : Beppo isn't a SN anyway

 

[Fox666]

Yeah... still I bet he has a bounty beetween 50 and 100 million

 

[St Michael]

Hope he reached the 100 (or even 300 ) million during the skip.

 

[beastboy]

About Bepo, he committed a huge mistake in assuming that there were no female bears on Amazone Lily, IIRC there was a Panda Woman there, and Panda's are Bears!

 

[BlackSword]

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[Aikidoka]

Shanks should be crossed out, I don't think he has had an actual on-panel fight yet IIRC.

 

[Roarchu]

what a heck? Tashigi in the same class as Bon-chan and only 1 class below Daz ??!!!

hmmm...during Arabasta:

Bon-chan ~ Sanji ~ Zoro >> Tashigi

nothing points to Tashigi being stronger now. And remember Impel Down? Bon-chan gave a few good pounds to the Minotaurus. do you think she could do as well as him in battle? no way

also, Jimbei (sea) vs Jimbei (land)...just a suggestion

 

[beastboy]

I think it would be interesting to add Nightmare Luffy to the list, I'd put it at 7.5 or 8, it really was pwning Oars like if it was a baby...