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[Medusa.D.Dup]

Some thought maybe Lucci's inquisitiveness about Lulusia at the start of the arc indicated he could possibly turn on the WG if he finds out the truth about it or the Void Century... so so those people thought what he reported to Saturn last chapter would actually turn out to be false info to trick the Marines... which would be an interesting twist, but there'd have to be a well-written reason for such a drastic change in character.

I think finding he's still very much against the Straw Hats is more in line with what we should've expected from him, for sure. Not entirely ruling out that Oda has some sort of redemption planned for him, but I honestly kind of hope not.

Understood.
But the SH saved his life and kakus. If it were not the SHs, the Seraphime would have killed them easily...
No thank you? Both have said, that for the moment they should ally to beat the seraphim and forget the grudge between them. I thought even Lucci can hold his promiss till they leave Egghead. But it seems they are not worth to be protected by SHs.
I hope that Kizaru will kill Lucci, scum of the WG.
Even under pirates there is somezhingvlike honor. But the WG Dogs are far from it.
Normally when Luffy makes a decessiin, there was always a plan behind. I hope its just a trick from Lucci to show WG that he is still part of it, while i reality he is helping the SHs....we will see.

 

[DeadlyBeast]

Not sure if there is a point to the light gloves since Luffy can do the same using haki unless there is an additional benefit like nullifying some of Kizaru's abilities. A Luffy v Kizaru match up makes completes sense at the moment since he's the only one who should be able to 1v1 an Admiral but not sure if it can stay that way since inside the dome Kizaru is completely outnumbered.

Honestly thinking about it, if the SHs kill York then VP can just have S-Bear sending all of them to Elbaf without having to fight or worry about the Marines. Heck they could probably use S-Snake to petrify even the top Marine's, not sure even Kizaru or Saturn would be immune. The SHs really have all the cards they just need to be willing to play them.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 27, 2023, Original Post Date: Aug 27, 2023 ---

Still pretty frustrated Kaidou got that truncated flashback. Big Mom got a lovingly detailed story which I loved, and Kaidou got cliff's notes. I assume because a lot of his story will have to do with Rocks, but at the same time... so should Linlin's backstory. But we didn't get shortchanged on her backstory the way we did Kaidou's even though they both had similar origins.

Yeah I was disappointed we didn't get to see at a more personal level what his adolescence was like. It's clear his treatment under the Vodka kingdom and the chain of events that sets off in his life is a huge contributor to his world view of might makes right. Would have been nice to see a child Kaido similar to BM and see how he went from innocent kid to ruthless emperor. Would have also been nice if we'd gotten more information on how he came to learn about Joyboy and why it was personally important to him to become Joyboy. To me it seems Kaido genuinely wanted to change the world and its not all to clear what his vision for the world was and how informed that goal was from his early life experiences.

 

[TheSadFed]

Some thought maybe Lucci's inquisitiveness about Lulusia at the start of the arc indicated he could possibly turn on the WG if he finds out the truth about it or the Void Century... so so those people thought what he reported to Saturn last chapter would actually turn out to be false info to trick the Marines... which would be an interesting twist, but there'd have to be a well-written reason for such a drastic change in character.

I think finding he's still very much against the Straw Hats is more in line with what we should've expected from him, for sure. Not entirely ruling out that Oda has some sort of redemption planned for him, but I honestly kind of hope not.

I thought the same too, ofc.
But then in the last chapter he snitched everything out. We still dont have the chapter out, we dont even know if he will switch side as it could happen anytime.
So what’s the point of being disappointed if Zoro start fighting him?

We are not disappointed when a mangaka clearly waste panels, weeks and chapters to make more money with our attention and we get pissed if something in the story for a few moments not goes in the direction we wanted?

I start to think a big part of the fanbase is adducted to the youtubers/influencers complicated theories like a Stockholm syndrome.

The manga is simple as f*ck.
Villain vs Hero, until they officially switch.

 

[Idkwhatanameis]

My guess is Zoro is fighting him because it’s dangerous to have him around while Luffy fights Kizaru. This is also to show their growth. I believe Lucci > King. They can’t send Saturn so it would just look weird having Kizaru fight Luffy 1v1 knowing he tried to kill Zoro in front of his friends and this is the only way to prevent that.

 

[Battle Wolf]

Lucci have taken the opportunity to take revenge against stussy and Zoro defend her.

 

[Sr.Enissay]

Lucci have taken the opportunity to take revenge against stussy and Zoro defend her.

Is this a prediction or a spoiler

 

[Zehahaha]

Why the gloves ? I don’t get this tbh. Why no go full CoC ?

Lucci being a massive pain is to be expected and no surprises there

 

[FetherMan]

Guys have you forgot Lucci just snitched everything to the WG ?

Why do you find weird to Zoro to fight him?

it’s not weird, it’s just why now, when Lucci and Luffy just fought. Plus, they could at least tease something more about Stussy, who’s actually arriving at Egghead from BB crew?.

Just moving the story by a quarter inch at this point.

 

[Battle Wolf]

Is this a prediction or a spoiler

A prediction, too early to a spoiler

 

[baditz]

Why the gloves ? I don’t get this tbh. Why no go full CoC ?

Lucci being a massive pain is to be expected and no surprises there

Maybe because hake only touch Kizaru real body, but his attack still very hurt even with haki, but glove can protect from Kizaru attack.

 

[Sr.Enissay]

it’s not weird, it’s just why now, when Lucci and Luffy just fought. Plus, they could at least tease something more about Stussy, who’s actually arriving at Egghead from BB crew?.

Just moving the story by a quarter inch at this point.

Even the "why now" isn't weird. Now that Luffy isn't around the crew, everyone from the SHs has the right to doubt Lucci and fight him especially if they realize he's spying on them. Even if we don't know yet the reason that triggers this fight, it makes sense that the one who made the move (fighting Lucci) is no one other than Zoro. He's the vice-captain, pragmatic, he wouldn't trust Lucci and lower his guard near him and Zoro was there when Luffy made the deal with the CP0.

 

[Battle Wolf]

Why the gloves ? I don’t get this tbh. Why no go full CoC ?

Lucci being a massive pain is to be expected and no surprises there

Luffy isn't take it seriously to use ACoC

 

[Rein Avara]

I think they're just demonstrating the effectiveness of the gloves vs someone of Kizaru's calibre. That is if he is actually using the gloves.

 

[Fox666]

Maybe Luffy's Haki is not enough? Even Whitebeard had trouble with Kizaru, and even cut him with his bisento but didn't hurt him.

I expect Lucci to be much stronger than Zoro, but maybe I'm overestimating him...

 

[LJkAze]

Never expected it but I'm okay with Zoro vs Lucci&Pacifista. When they say Pacifista I wonder if it's the Mark IIIs or Seraphims? Also people thinking Lucci will join the good side are delusional. Thou he's nothing to Luffy now but he's still a top villain and letting Zoro the 2nd strongest fight him will be a decent matchup. Also revenge for Zoro since Water 7 when Lucci threw him into a chimney. If you think about it Lucci barely got damage when fighting the Seraphims but Kaku is completely F as a Awaken Zoan user which is saying something in strength. I pray Lucci put up a better fight against Zoro and not let Zoro squash him like Luffy.

As for Luffy having gloves vs Kizaru. Gear 5 still drains Luffy Haki fast and it's best for Luffy to not use Gear 5 right off the bat. If Luffy can hit Kizaru light without using so much of his resources then it's better and it's better for him to reserve Gear 5 for Kizaru Awakening.

 

[McNuss]

Your opinion. Personally I've been waiting for Gorosei, Imu and Blackbeard in action for years and current lore is really interesting and unpredictable... In contrary to Wano where we know what exactly is going to happen at the beginning of the arc but we didn't know how Luffy will defeat Kaido. If it wasn't for Joyboy lore it wouldn't be much more interesting than Dressrosa.

That's barely a part of Egghead Arc, most of it is just the rest of Levely Arc told later.
And the other stuff, if we went the traditional route of storytelling is all just Post-Wano Arc.
Egghead Arc is - so far - just bad because the other two parts led to a terrible abridgement of it.
The six Vegapunk satellites are less developed than some Thriller Bark zombies, the plotline is jumpy, the Stussy twist was just Mayuri Kurotsuchi level of "just as planned", the Straw Hats all do nothing and are just filler, the Seraphim are just weirdly designed and couldn't convince yet, ...

I don't know, Oda can write great short arcs with many characters, see Impel Down.

Egghead should have been a Murder Mystery arc with York and the Lucci trio seperately killing off the other Vegapunks, controlling the Seraphim, knocking out Straw Hats and Sentomaru, untill being found out as culprits, that would have been cool and would have given time to establish the Vegapunks before they already kick the bucket again.

Instead we got some totally random hints from Vegapunk, a Bonney story that wasn't allowed to be shown either, Lucci and Kaku being stupid, and I mean really really stupid, Straw Hats glued to the floor, then some crack boom beng with the Seraphim, and then its abridged lol this is not peak One Piece it's barely even there.
I am looking forward to the battle, Oda could really bring the tension back to One Piece if the Government wins here...

Why do you find weird to Zoro to fight him?

Because it sounds so stupid. Lucci should wait for opportunities to murder someone in silence rather than already be in a fight again.

 

[Sefirosu]

Guys, according to the alphabet, after ZKK it's ZKL

 

[Pirate Queen]

It's already started folks, let's go

 

[Battle Wolf]

Oh shit, here we go again...

 

[Ero-Sanji]

Depending on how it goes
It’s a clear scaler decider between luffy and Zoro at least , anyone with sense knows that there’s a been clear demarcation but this will stamp it

Hopefully. I guess I just want to see Zoro fight an actual swordsman for once.