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Or knew “the one” had to be someone who ate the Nika fruit.


I don’t think Shanks had Luffy picked out as “the one”, but Luffy eating the fruit forced him to try and salvage his plans by betting on Luffy able to become “the one”.
Besides him eating the Nika fruit, Luffy was saying things similar to what Roger was saying despite being not related by blood. It was this point that Shanks choose to introduce Luffy by to Rayleigh and it made the old man excited to meet Luffy.
Also, The fact that Luffy told Shanks about his dream.
these are some indicators that Luffy wasn't a normal kid to Shanks.
 

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Besides him eating the Nika fruit, Luffy was saying things similar to what Roger was saying despite being not related by blood. It was this point that Shanks choose to introduce Luffy by to Rayleigh and it made the old man excited to meet Luffy.
Also, The fact that Luffy told Shanks about his dream.
these are some indicators that Luffy wasn't a normal kid to Shanks.
It wont surprise if the visit at the "Bar" wasn´t just planned by coincidence?,,i mean they didn´t have a freaking clue exactly Who was goin to the one who took the Nika,, but whoever it was , it was the correct person destined by Fate to be the proper user for it... this would imply that all that Shock they made when Luffy stole their "treasure they took from the enemy" it was all fake.. this could be a posibility

Or Maybe not,, Shank´s stole from CP9 and keep it not knowing what the hell to do with it,, stopped in a Bar,, Luffy took it (all non planned by him , just fate playing around ),,,and then he realized Luffy was indeed the one for it,,

 
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I imagine this will be the chapter where we finally find out what Elbaf's legendary fruit was.
 

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I imagine this will be the chapter where we finally find out what Elbaf's legendary fruit was.
I wont mind to see just a whole chapter totally dedicated,, to the Insane Shithole,, that happened in that Throne room,,showcasing Loki´s powers,, Harald´s power, other giants, and in the next one maybe half of it dedicated to a Battle between Loki and Shanks,, until he was able to chain him.. even MORE than know what kind of fruit it was honestly,,

Man this seriously put Shanks on a Scale, hard to even Imagine,,, Loki himself is A MONSTER- A TOTAL MONSTER,, EVEN AS A BABY,, he took Harald, and tons of other giants -- and Shanks Beats HIM,,, jeeezus..... i sayed on some earlier posts, IF SHAMROCKS is an exact 100% Copy of Shanks in terms of Skills and Powers, due to being a perfect TWIN, i really really would feel sorry for anyone who had to face him...
 

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I wont mind to see just a whole chapter totally dedicated,, to the Insane Shithole,, that happened in that Throne room,,showcasing Loki´s powers,, Harald´s power, other giants, and in the next one maybe half of it dedicated to a Battle between Loki and Shanks,, until he was able to chain him.. even MORE than know what kind of fruit it was honestly,,

Man this seriously put Shanks on a Scale, hard to even Imagine,,, Loki himself is A MONSTER- A TOTAL MONSTER,, EVEN AS A BABY,, he took Harald, and tons of other giants -- and Shanks Beats HIM,,, jeeezus..... i sayed on some earlier posts, IF SHAMROCKS is an exact 100% Copy of Shanks in terms of Skills and Powers, due to being a perfect TWIN, i really really would feel sorry for anyone who had to face him...
We learned that Ima’s tattoo makes people stronger - that probably helped Shanks out. Did he lose his bonus strength boost when his arm got eaten?
 

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We learned that Ima’s tattoo makes people stronger - that probably helped Shanks out. Did he lose his bonus strength boost when his arm got eaten?
If i have to put it against Shamrocks after that.. when they are probably so identical in power, it is a total disadvantage... since probably the most mininum mistake or handicap, could send you to the Grave, even Mihawk admitted he lost interest after that, probably He never tried to fight Shanks to begin with since he lost his arm, cause in someone so prideful as Mihawk, winning over him with such a handicap, it wont feel right, so yeah probably 2 Arms Shanks it was Slightly more powerful than his 1 arm version, and in duels against insane chars it could make a world of difference.. lets remember he beat Loki when he still had both, i m not sure it could be so easy now, except for plot reasons
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Nope because Shanks didn't get the deep Abyssal marks
yeah.. he was pretty smart and GTFO fast.. since he knew that Tatto.. tied you to Imu's Will, and losing 100% along his arm, to remove it completly is not a totally bad deal.. it was kind of poetic, that why he wasnt sad, as he said he made a bet on the future, just 4 one arm..ditching anything Imu related and betting on Luffy.
 

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lets remember he beat Loki when he still had both, i m not sure it could be so easy now, except for plot reasons
He beat Loki the same year he became a yonko, after meeting Luffy. So he win with only 1 arm
 

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If i have to put it against Shamrocks after that.. when they are probably so identical in power, it is a total disadvantage... since probably the most mininum mistake or handicap, could send you to the Grave, even Mihawk admitted he lost interest after that, probably He never tried to fight Shanks to begin with since he lost his arm, cause in someone so prideful as Mihawk, winning over him with such a handicap, it wont feel right, so yeah probably 2 Arms Shanks it was Slightly more powerful than his 1 arm version, and in duels against insane chars it could make a world of difference.. lets remember he beat Loki when he still had both, i m not sure it could be so easy now, except for plot reasons
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yeah.. he was pretty smart and GTFO fast.. since he knew that Tatto.. tied you to Imu's Will, and losing 100% along his arm, to remove it completly is not a totally bad deal.. it was kind of poetic, that why he wasnt sad, as he said he made a bet on the future, just 4 one arm..ditching anything Imu related and betting on Luffy.
Shanks still had the tattoo the day Harald was killed though, so Shanks was likely as ignorant as Harald was, since he still risked getting himself fully possessed with those puppet shit marks.
 

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Shanks still had the tattoo the day Harald was killed though, so Shanks was likely as ignorant as Harald was, since he still risked getting himself fully possessed with those puppet shit marks.
Shanks obviously knew about Imu even before going to HolyLand. Why do you think he skipped out on becoming a Holy Knight.
 

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Shanks obviously knew about Imu even before going to HolyLand. Why do you think he skipped out on becoming a Holy Knight.
and probably the thing he wants to warn Harald about may be the price one has to pay in order to gave a higher contract (with Imu)
 

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He beat Loki the same year he became a yonko, after meeting Luffy. So he win with only 1 arm
You are right! thanks for clarify.. i forgot he left the country..on my head shanks beat him that Same exact day,,

14 years ago
Elbaph prince Loki and Jarul are ordered to return to Elbaph's Aurust Castle only to discover Harald impaled by his own soldiers. Soon after a scuffle ensued that resulted in the theft of the royal family's Devil Fruit, and Jarul being stabbed through the head. Loki is blamed for all three incidents and flees the country. While Harald dies, Jarul survives and Shanks and Scopper Gaban investigate the incident.

13 years ago
While being transported on a World Government ship, the Gomu Gomu no Mi is stolen by the Red Hair Pirates. Who's-Who, a member of CP9 tasked with guarding the fruit, is put in prison for failing to protect it.[253][254] Later that year, the Red Hair Pirates arrive at Foosha Village on Dawn Island.[255

6 years ago
On the blue seas Loki is defeated and captured by Shanks.[300] He is brought back to Elbaph and is subsequently imprisoned on Treasure Tree Adam within the country's underworld.[301][302]
 

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Shanks obviously knew about Imu even before going to HolyLand. Why do you think he skipped out on becoming a Holy Knight.
So if we can assume Shanks fully knew everything instead of getting lucky, then I guess we can further blame him for Harald’s death, because of all these detours he took, like Gaban’s hot tub party, before sailing to Elbaf sooner and warning Harald of the puppet marks.

Basically, if Shanks knew for a long time, but didn’t sail to Elbaf until the very last minute, then it would be Shanks’ fault Harald died.
 

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Shanks still had the tattoo the day Harald was killed though, so Shanks was likely as ignorant as Harald was, since he still risked getting himself fully possessed with those puppet shit marks.
Don't think you can be possessed until you have the 2nd tier or 3rd tier of the marking. Even with the first tier, Harald still needed a Den Den Mushi to get instructions for the God Knights... those with higher tiers can communicate telepathically as far as we can see.
 

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Shanks still had the tattoo the day Harald was killed though, so Shanks was likely as ignorant as Harald was, since he still risked getting himself fully possessed with those puppet shit marks.
Considering that it seems,, the full body control seems to be possible from the Second Tattoo, foward,, and he MISTERIOUSLY dissapeared when he was about to receive the second Mark as Harald.. im not sure it was a lucky coincidence,,he pretty much said..ok, time to get the fk out of here,,,

¿ what other excuse he had?,,, like Being in front of Imu ´s and saying, you know what i like the first one more, there´s really no need of getting the second one,, HONESTLY...
 

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Considering that it seems,, the full body control seems to be possible from the Second Tattoo, foward,, and he MISTERIOUSLY dissapeared when he was about to receive the second Mark as Harald.. im not sure it was a lucky coincidence,,he pretty much said..ok, time to get the fk out of here,,,

¿ what other excuse he had?,,, like Being in front of Imu ´s and saying, you know what i like the first one more, there´s really no need of getting the second one,, HONESTLY...
Then we can assume Harald died because of Shanks’ negligence then. Negligence for not sailing to Elbaf sooner, and getting sidetracked by things like hot tub parties.
 

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Then we can assume Harald died because of Shanks’ negligence then. Negligence for not sailing to Elbaf sooner, and getting sidetracked by things like hot tub parties.
yeah..i was kinda thinking the same,,he didnt care a shit to warn him,, or simply didn´t know they would gave him the second Mark so soon ](to HARALD I MEAN]) ,,thus at some point it was bound to happen,,, but i m pretty pretttyyyy sure...Shanks knows that if you get the second Tatto,, you are totally fucked,, totally tied to Imu´s will, not a bad moment to get the hell out of there ASAP if you know ,they are goin to call you to receive it soon...
 

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So leaks next week after Christmas
Ch 1171 drops mid January
 

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Then we can assume Harald died because of Shanks’ negligence then. Negligence for not sailing to Elbaf sooner, and getting sidetracked by things like hot tub parties.

I don’t think it’s fair to put it on Shanks. He was doing his spy thing at the time and Harald was a willing and devoted member of the God’s Knights.

Why would Shanks risk his entire plan to warn a loyal government dog? Especially when it was way too soon for Shanks to act against Imu.
 
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