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Can you believe the people complaining are all 30+ years old? The world is such a crazy place nowadays, that some people can reach uncle age and still think like a toddler. I can't believe Oda is killing himself to write manga for these folk
I can kind of get it. I don’t mind Oda taking breaks, but I did have like 17 years of just like Golden Break and other random holiday breaks. It was definitely cooler.

When you’re used to a thing, having it change to something worse sucks. It’s like ads on YouTube/adblockers not working anymore. I would much rather have never seen another ad in my life, but the ads are what keeps the servers running, so I just have to deal with it.

Breaks are the One Piece ads equivalent. Oda would legit probably have been dead before Wano ended if he hadn’t been forced to start taking breaks. I hate ads and breaks but it’s the price I have to pay to keep getting good content.
 

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I can kind of get it. I don’t mind Oda taking breaks, but I did have like 17 years of just like Golden Break and other random holiday breaks. It was definitely cooler.

When you’re used to a thing, having it change to something worse sucks. It’s like ads on YouTube/adblockers not working anymore. I would much rather have never seen another ad in my life, but the ads are what keeps the servers running, so I just have to deal with it.

Breaks are the One Piece ads equivalent. Oda would legit probably have been dead before Wano ended if he hadn’t been forced to start taking breaks. I hate ads and breaks but it’s the price I have to pay to keep getting good content.
Next chap it is goin to worth a whole month of wait.
 

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I can kind of get it. I don’t mind Oda taking breaks, but I did have like 17 years of just like Golden Break and other random holiday breaks. It was definitely cooler.

When you’re used to a thing, having it change to something worse sucks. It’s like ads on YouTube/adblockers not working anymore. I would much rather have never seen another ad in my life, but the ads are what keeps the servers running, so I just have to deal with it.

Breaks are the One Piece ads equivalent. Oda would legit probably have been dead before Wano ended if he hadn’t been forced to start taking breaks. I hate ads and breaks but it’s the price I have to pay to keep getting good content.
Huh, nice comparison. Yeah, breaks kinda feels like YouTube ads. I understand that they are necessary but when there's too many of them it sucks REALLY badly. On YouTube you can just shut down ads with adblocker (though from time to time YouTube is still trying to break through with their gazylion of ads during 2 min video) but all you can do about breaks is wait through them patiently. I do that, I just wait. It dosen't mean that getting chapter every second week suck any less though. Not after many years of getting them EVERY week or even some time of getting three chapters per month and one break week. Being jerk about breaks and whining like child is not cool but let's be just tiny bit more understanding toward people who were growing alongside this manga and actually just still can't get over that its author is getting old and THAT'S why he need soo many of them. Correct them sure but don't act mean about it.







Next chap it is goin to worth a whole month of wait.
I hope so but I'm not very sure about it. I'm still waiting for hybrid Loki. I'm just soo curious how does it look. Like, does it have that weird animal muzzle over normal human mouth that makes user look like he's wearing mask or normal face but with scales or something? Also we don't see zoans with wings very often so seeing Loki in hybrid form having them would be cool. Espesially if he can kinda use them for something beside flying.
 

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I can kind of get it. I don’t mind Oda taking breaks, but I did have like 17 years of just like Golden Break and other random holiday breaks. It was definitely cooler.

When you’re used to a thing, having it change to something worse sucks. It’s like ads on YouTube/adblockers not working anymore. I would much rather have never seen another ad in my life, but the ads are what keeps the servers running, so I just have to deal with it.

Breaks are the One Piece ads equivalent. Oda would legit probably have been dead before Wano ended if he hadn’t been forced to start taking breaks. I hate ads and breaks but it’s the price I have to pay to keep getting good content.
The people that complain usually don't pay a lick for One Piece. They read their tcb scans, maybe the jump app chapter on sunday, and move on.
That's incredibly bratty and emotionally immature of them. As for youtube, it's almost the same thing. People pour their hearts out making content (some of the time) and most viewers watch everything for free anyway. You can obviously use adblockers, revanced or pay for premium to support creators more, but it's such a tiny part of the whole. Nobody want's to pay for anything anymore, even if they get more than their money's worth.

I get being a fan and how waiting sucks, but One Piece is still ongoing strongly. It's not like Berserk or any other famous manga that gets like 3 chapters a year tops if we're lucky. In the end, it is still a carefully constructed product, and it's nowhere near the level of fan negligence most other modern manga have like bad endings that disregard what the fans like about the series and that were probably pushed by the editorial staff or due to mismanagement (too many to name nowadays, but things like jjk, aot, demon slayer, vinland saga, boku no hero), weird arcs made to artificially lengthen a story because the author wrote themselves into a corner (chainsaw man and dandadan, or whatever other romance manga is popular nowadays) or absolutely no transparency in regards to the future of the series (vagabond, berserk being prime examples with frieren and hunter x hunter too to a lesser extent).

And even with the breaks, One Piece is still good and free. The issue is absolutely on the impatient and emotionally immature fans. It's not necessarily worse, just different, and whatever's more sustainable to Oda is better for everyone in the long run. It's incredibly cruel to the author to just be demanding and demeaning if you don't get your way.
 
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The people that complain usually don't pay a lick for One Piece. They read their tcb scans, maybe the jump app chapter on sunday, and move on.
I think the closest I’ve come to giving Oda any money in the almost two decades I’ve been following the series is having a Netflix subscription. Never bought any merch and don’t own a single volume.

If Oda needs a break so that he can stay alive to keep giving me free shit, I’m ok with that. I’d obviously rather he didn’t take breaks, but it is what it is and I’m not going to complain about it.
 

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Nobody want's to pay for anything anymore, even if they get more than their money's worth.
While I agree with the spirit of what you're saying, this "these days" sort of framing ignores a couple key things: the material reality that despite our devices and progress and refrigerators and AC, we're still fucked by the swelling cost of living. Outside of that population, most people *do* want to pay for things, like Gabe said- some absurd percentage of piracy is a service problem. Hell, look at how utterly dogshit and outdated VIZ's official desktop site is compared to the legion of manga piracy sites with modern webpage infrastructure and every bell-and-whistle imaginable. FFS you can't even do true fullscreen on the VIZ site.

Most of my life was spent having zero disposable income, everything was either piracy or nothing. The second I moved up a tax bracket, I started buying shit. If you have the means, people tend to want to participate 'normally'. "These days people just don't want to pay for things" makes it sound like a moral panic brought on by a failure of personal responsibility, and I kinda refuse to be that cynical.

Most people making money off of putting their content on Youtube aren't getting it from Youtube's piddly, insulting paycheck, they're getting it directly from their fans individually through patreon and sponsorships. Again, service problem.
 

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Guys there is another break next week..
Oda is pissing me off lately..
No offense but me personally I have lost interest in the manga lately due to those back to back to back breaks… Story is only progressing slowly..
If you'd lost interest it wouldn't piss you off. Let me guess.. you never take PTO, and are an extremely hard worker.

You read this for free, and get spoilers / hints before they hit the shelf in Japan and have the audacity to complain the creator isn't working fast enough for you. Maybe get a life.
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I envy people with enough time on their hands to frequently rant on One Piece not being published quickly enough and how they suffer from break weeks. . My advice is: if you got time to kill do a reread of the whole manga, IMO there's always something to catch and you will easily forget about all the breaks.
There's also a million other series out there. Throw any of them into a job where the expectations are even a fraction of what they are on a Mangaka and they'd probably burn out in weeks. I have my complaints about Oda, but his work ethic is not one of them. It's unsustainable to release like Fairy Tail or whatever over a period of 30 years. There's a reason Mangaka seem to die young.
 

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I think the closest I’ve come to giving Oda any money in the almost two decades I’ve been following the series is having a Netflix subscription. Never bought any merch and don’t own a single volume.

If Oda needs a break so that he can stay alive to keep giving me free shit, I’m ok with that. I’d obviously rather he didn’t take breaks, but it is what it is and I’m not going to complain about it.
I once bought Luffy Funko keychain and he's already scratched because I'm ACTUALLY using him lol. I wish I had enough space at home and money to spend on supporting Oda through buying merch/manga volumes. Not everyone can flaunt being super supportive by showing off their merch collections.

And yeah, that's obvious Oda need breaks. He's not young anymore after all. I get it, I wait through them but they still sucks. Mainly because there's nothing new to talk about and I WANT to talk about something with my fellow fans. Right now we are literally discussing "How bratty are fans that admit that they are disapointed by breaks." and it's because there's nothing much to talk about.


On diffrent note. I'm ending Sabaondy today and yeeeaaah, most of Rookies pre timeskip designs sucked ass. Espesially Basil with his "Strawman" form and Apoo. Also I know people are still believing that Uroge will have some huge role to play but since his debut he didn't do shit. Like why the hell he even went down to "blue sea" if he didn't actually do anything memorable beside mayby causing some random troubles for civilians. Law, Drake and mayby Bage had good pre skip designs actually. It's cool how Drake actually knew way more than anyone else due to fact that he "was" marine.
 

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I once bought Luffy Funko keychain and he's already scratched because I'm ACTUALLY using him lol. I wish I had enough space at home and money to spend on supporting Oda through buying merch/manga volumes. Not everyone can flaunt being super supportive by showing off their merch collections.

And yeah, that's obvious Oda need breaks. He's not young anymore after all. I get it, I wait through them but they still sucks. Mainly because there's nothing new to talk about and I WANT to talk about something with my fellow fans. Right now we are literally discussing "How bratty are fans that admit that they are disapointed by breaks." and it's because there's nothing much to talk about.


On diffrent note. I'm ending Sabaondy today and yeeeaaah, most of Rookies pre timeskip designs sucked ass. Espesially Basil with his "Strawman" form and Apoo. Also I know people are still believing that Uroge will have some huge role to play but since his debut he didn't do shit. Like why the hell he even went down to "blue sea" if he didn't actually do anything memorable beside mayby causing some random troubles for civilians. Law, Drake and mayby Bage had good pre skip designs actually. It's cool how Drake actually knew way more than anyone else due to fact that he "was" marine.
Lol my only O.P merch is a Loose Nami B.B they gift to me... im more into demon look a like cuties animus waifus..


Still i wont complain for breaks.. i mean gad daam is not like im paying a dime.. it will be quite hipocrital from me.. 2 do it.
 

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Espesially Basil with his "Strawman" form and Apoo. Also I know people are still believing that Uroge will have some huge role to play but since his debut he didn't do shit.

I thought Basil was the coolest of all the Super Novas when they were introduced. Kind of disappointed that he turned out to be such a lame duck.

I can’t imagine that Urouge doesn’t end up doing something cool. He’s the only Super Nova that hasn’t had a role in a new world arc yet, and Shonen rules mean the longer it takes to see someone fight, the stronger they are. Dragon hasn’t really done anything either, but like you know he’s going to absolutely wreck shit when he eventually does right?

Also, Urouge did take out a Yonko Commander and managed to live to tell the tale, that’s not nothing. That puts him on like Zoro/Sanji/at least Jimbei tier.

I expect big things from the final Super Nova.
 

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I thought Basil was the coolest of all the Super Novas when they were introduced. Kind of disappointed that he turned out to be such a lame duck.

I can’t imagine that Urouge doesn’t end up doing something cool. He’s the only Super Nova that hasn’t had a role in a new world arc yet, and Shonen rules mean the longer it takes to see someone fight, the stronger they are. Dragon hasn’t really done anything either, but like you know he’s going to absolutely wreck shit when he eventually does right?

Also, Urouge did take out a Yonko Commander and managed to live to tell the tale, that’s not nothing. That puts him on like Zoro/Sanji/at least Jimbei tier.

I expect big things from the final Super Nova.
Yeah, Basil sucks ass. Only thing he do is talking nonsense and shielding himself with life of random people. I was really glad when Killer outsmarted him during Wano and it seemed like he finally died. I just REALLY have no respect for him, like ANY.


Oh hmm, I forgot about that. I didn't get there in my rewatch. Well Kid stole from Big Mom so apparently defeating Yonko Commander isn't something super special. Espesially if it's one of Big Moms because not all of them are top tier like Katakuri or Cracker at very least. Also I hope you're right about Uroge. If not he would be ultimate disapointment. And yeah, Dragon could also do just about ANYTHING. Aura farming never helped anyone after all.
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Lol my only O.P merch is a Loose Nami B.B they gift to me... im more into demon look a like cuties animus waifus..


Still i wont complain for breaks.. i mean gad daam is not like im paying a dime.. it will be quite hipocrital from me.. 2 do it.
Well my only "merch" (beside my keychain) are pics on my phone I find here and there. Recently I found few cool Loki pics, usually I search for Law though. Aaand mayby Mihawk too, I adore those two but mainly Law. Ugh, I miss him soo much. 😭
 

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Oh hmm, I forgot about that. I didn't get there in my rewatch. Well Kid stole from Big Mom so apparently defeating Yonko Commander isn't something super special.
Kid stole from random tribute ships that were on their way to Big Mom. Urouge came into her territory and beat one of her top 4 crew members. It was presumably the weakest commander but it was still a commander. Thats like someone coming in and beating the shit out of Jimbei and making it out alive, only more impressive, because big mom had 3 stronger commanders, herself, and like 40 at least Franky tier fighters.
 

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#1186 Unconfirmed Spoilers

The flashback ends after Gunko/Shuri knocks out Brook, thus giving him the head/crack wound. These are early spoilers so take it with a grain of salt. I’ll share confirmation later.
 
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Kid stole from random tribute ships that were on their way to Big Mom. Urouge came into her territory and beat one of her top 4 crew members. It was presumably the weakest commander but it was still a commander. Thats like someone coming in and beating the shit out of Jimbei and making it out alive, only more impressive, because big mom had 3 stronger commanders, herself, and like 40 at least Franky tier fighters.
I'm quite sure he did something to Big Mom too, though I don't really remember what. During Wano she was really pissed at him so mayby he stole something important for her. I have some unclear feeling that it could be even Road Poneglyf rubbing or at very least just ANY poneglyf rubbing. Sorry if I'm wrong, my memory got little rusty.
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#1186 Unconfirmed Spoilers

The flashback ends after Gunko/Shuri knocks out Brook, thus giving him the head/crack wound. These are early spoilers so take it with a grain of salt. I’ll share confirmation later.
Oh, cool. I hope this is real, I really want to get back to the action. Aaand mayby with some good winds we could get two chapters in a row and then break. I know, I know, Oda deserve every break he can take (espesially if he's REALLY resting instead of working some more) but manga slowed down soo much that I'm getting really worried that anime will catch up. Well, good thing that it went seasonal and is only in early stage of Elbaf. During break that should keep going until autumn (according to what I heard and remember) manga will widen the gap a little so anime won't catch up that easy.
 

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I'm quite sure he did something to Big Mom too, though I don't really remember what. During Wano she was really pissed at him so mayby he stole something important for her. I have some unclear feeling that it could be even Road Poneglyf rubbing or at very least just ANY poneglyf rubbing. Sorry if I'm wrong, my memory got little rusty.
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Oh, cool. I hope this is real, I really want to get back to the action. Aaand mayby with some good winds we could get two chapters in a row and then break. I know, I know, Oda deserve every break he can take (espesially if he's REALLY resting instead of working some more) but manga slowed down soo much that I'm getting really worried that anime will catch up. Well, good thing that it went seasonal and is only in early stage of Elbaf. During break that should keep going until autumn (according to what I heard and remember) manga will widen the gap a little so anime won't catch up that easy.
Im a little bit shocked about the timing... IF IT IS TRUE--AND IT IS THE LAST PAGE-and for what i presume when it said FLASHBACK ENDS,, it also means End of the chapter-- ¿ could this means the whole chapter--every and each page of it, it was dedicated to what happened in the throne room?

Cause if it were just a middle page or even the SECOND TO LAST page, i can at least imagine the real final page it could be the Fb ended up and we returned to the main timeline... and THEN- the chapter ends--- like i dunno a shot of Skeletal brook looking at the Cube and saying something--- but if is truly the last PAGE- it means the whole chapter it was dedicated to what happened in there...
 

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I'm quite sure he did something to Big Mom too, though I don't really remember what. During Wano she was really pissed at him so mayby he stole something important for her. I have some unclear feeling that it could be even Road Poneglyf rubbing or at very least just ANY poneglyf rubbing. Sorry if I'm wrong, my memory got little rusty.
IIRC, Kid destroyed some ships which cost them quite a bit of money.
But he also stole a Poneglyph rubbing too.
 

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The people that complain usually don't pay a lick for One Piece. They read their tcb scans, maybe the jump app chapter on sunday, and move on.
That's incredibly bratty and emotionally immature of them. As for youtube, it's almost the same thing. People pour their hearts out making content (some of the time) and most viewers watch everything for free anyway. You can obviously use adblockers, revanced or pay for premium to support creators more, but it's such a tiny part of the whole. Nobody want's to pay for anything anymore, even if they get more than their money's worth.

I get being a fan and how waiting sucks, but One Piece is still ongoing strongly. It's not like Berserk or any other famous manga that gets like 3 chapters a year tops if we're lucky. In the end, it is still a carefully constructed product, and it's nowhere near the level of fan negligence most other modern manga have like bad endings that disregard what the fans like about the series and that were probably pushed by the editorial staff or due to mismanagement (too many to name nowadays, but things like jjk, aot, demon slayer, vinland saga, boku no hero), weird arcs made to artificially lengthen a story because the author wrote themselves into a corner (chainsaw man and dandadan, or whatever other romance manga is popular nowadays) or absolutely no transparency in regards to the future of the series (vagabond, berserk being prime examples with frieren and hunter x hunter too to a lesser extent).

And even with the breaks, One Piece is still good and free. The issue is absolutely on the impatient and emotionally immature fans. It's not necessarily worse, just different, and whatever's more sustainable to Oda is better for everyone in the long run. It's incredibly cruel to the author to just be demanding and demeaning if you don't get your way.
If anyone wants to understand the amount of work these manga artist put in. I recommend people to read bakumon (i think that’s what it is called, a manga about a manga artist) and people will see how much hours they put in.
 

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I'm quite sure he did something to Big Mom too, though I don't really remember what. During Wano she was really pissed at him so mayby he stole something important for her.
At the end of Fishman island Pekoms or the Egg Guy mentioned that Kid had been robbing her treasure ships so they could actually use the treasure Fishman Island was offering instead of the candy that Luffy ate.
 

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At the end of Fishman island Pekoms or the Egg Guy mentioned that Kid had been robbing her treasure ships so they could actually use the treasure Fishman Island was offering instead of the candy that Luffy ate.
Well, in the light of such thing happening to YONKO being constantly broke sounds like a perk, lol. You know, because they can't rob you if you berely have any money to begin with. It's probably offscreen thing but I bet Strawhats are living on whatever they can steal from pirats that try to defeate and rob them for fame. Oh, and random treasures if they find one and stretch long enough.

Btw, Big Mom should send her strongest children to protect her treasure ships if newbie who some time ago barely survived one Pacifista was able to repeatedly rob her. I'm not making Kidds merits smaller, it's just he got stronger through trials and tribulations he had to survive on New World and he technically didn't got out of them "in one piece". You know, cuz he pissed off Shanks and lost an arm. Boy, sometime I'm forgeting how bold were pirats that didn't even really knew what haki is but survived on New World anyway. In the beggining some pirat crews were unable to survive "Paradise" and all that was required for that is at least decent crew and log pose. Yes, I'm talking about Don Craig and his fleet. Well now he IS in the New World apparently but sheer fact that he build whole ass fleet just to survive first half of Grand Line still kinda baffles me. I still wonder how he even left Grand Line, for that to happen he had to survive Calm Belt.
 

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Btw, Big Mom should send her strongest children to protect her treasure ships if newbie who some time ago barely survived one Pacifista was able to repeatedly rob her.

The Yonkos seem to mostly trust in their reputations. Just putting up their flag on an island was enough to scare off most people. The worst gen are the first people in a long time who have been able to at least partially get away with fucking with Yonkos, and even then it didn’t really turn out well for most of them.

She was sending Pekoms tier underlings out to collect things for her, not her top tier kids. They were strong enough to defeat random Bellamy tier pirates, but Super Novas are all on an entirely different level. They are Warlord/Yonko Commander tier.

She had 3 (4 before Urouge) people who could possibly face a Super Nova.
 
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