Discussion Outside World

[riniloves]

Re: Outside World Humans

So I found two images that left me anxious.

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(From this thread on another forum)

Then we have this:

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And this:

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I like it better in the anime rather than manga because it's easier to see the resemblances.

Compared with the Outside World Map (Seen also above)

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And Ging knowing ancient History, being in the top 5 of Nen, symbols that resembles a lot...I've the impression that Outside World contrary to popular belief was planned since the beginning.

OMG it was planned from the start??? Good analysis... Could nen be part of ancient science???
Suddenly remember the constant babbling by those folks from History channel...

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I guess after the wait, were gonna see nen specialist who are scientist type crazy thingy...
And Leorio's expertise might be needed in this arc... I hope so...

 

[Cinnabar]

Re: Outside World Humans

So I found two images that left me anxious.

Spoiler

Spoiler

(From this thread on another forum)

Then we have this:

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And this:

Spoiler

I like it better in the anime rather than manga because it's easier to see the resemblances.

Compared with the Outside World Map (Seen also above)

Spoiler

And Ging knowing ancient History, being in the top 5 of Nen, symbols that resembles a lot...I've the impression that Outside World contrary to popular belief was planned since the beginning.

Don't forget about the earlier manga covers. And the flying human-eating monsters in Trick Tower during the Hunter Exam. Er... they may not foreshadow the Outside World, per se, but it does hint that the HxH world doesn't consist of just humans.

It wouldn't surprise me if Togashi planned HxH as far as the Ant and Outside World arcs. It's actually stuck in my headcannon that Greed Island is based on, or inspired by, the Outside World.

You know who I want to see? I want to see Satotz doing archaeological hunter stuff with Ging. I doubt it's gonna happen though.

 

[futurefrog]

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Don't forget about the earlier manga covers. And the flying human-eating monsters in Trick Tower during the Hunter Exam. Er... they may not foreshadow the Outside World, per se, but it does hint that the HxH world doesn't consist of just humans.

It wouldn't surprise me if Togashi planned HxH as far as the Ant and Outside World arcs. It's actually stuck in my headcannon that Greed Island is based on, or inspired by, the Outside World.

You know who I want to see? I want to see Satotz doing archaeological hunter stuff with Ging. I doubt it's gonna happen though.

Wow I never thought that Ging might have created Greed Island based upon the Outside World. You are a genius!
That is a very real possibility. Perhaps a lot of the creatures were inspired by the inscriptions he found in Luluka Ruins?
I think that Satotz and Ging need to work together and for Satotz to achieve his goal of thanking Ging.

 

[Cinnabar]

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I think that Satotz and Ging need to work together and for Satotz to achieve his goal of thanking Ging.

I want this to happen so baaaaaad. Actually, I want to see more hunters doing hunter stuff. Like maybe Menchi and Buhara doing gourmet hunting in the Outside World. And Hanzo doing whatever he does. Or maybe Togashi can introduce more hunter jobs and expand on them. Like what he did with Blacklist hunters in Yorkshin, and Beast and Contract hunters in the Ant arc. But mostly I want to see Satotz and Ging doing hunter stuff together. Maybe Satotz can thank him, then they can geek out on ruins and stuff.

I just thought of something too. Remember the first intro for the 2011 anime? The narrator says: "Fearsome creatures. Exotic monsters. Vast riches. Hidden treasures. Evil enclaves. Unexplored lands. The world 'unknown' holds magic. And some incredible people are drawn to that magic. They are known... as Hunters!"

When you watch the intro, look at the images. The background is showing a map of the known world. But what you see in front are sort of 'other-worldly' creatures. [fearsome creatures, exotic monsters] shows us animals like an eight-eyed fish and some kind of winged-dinosaur. [evil enclaves, unexplored lands] shows us giant trees and mushroom-like lilypad thingies. I'm not sure, but I think the mushroom-like lilypad thingies are trees, and they can be seen in the Outside map too.

Is this the 2011 anime foreshadowing the Outside world? I think it is.

Also, as an aside, the first creature the intro shows (the sharp-toothed turtle thing with strawberry stuff on its back) can be seen on the First Phase of the Hunter Exam. I wonder if it came from the Outside.

 

[Uriel]

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Nah, not everything came from outside for sure.
But it's indeed suspiciously fitting. Notice that it's the first page of the manga, that speech. Togashi mega-hint :O

 

[kindredxiuxiu]

Re: Outside World Humans

So I found two images that left me anxious.

Spoiler

Spoiler

(From this thread on another forum)

Then we have this:

Spoiler

And this:

Spoiler

I like it better in the anime rather than manga because it's easier to see the resemblances.

Compared with the Outside World Map (Seen also above)

Spoiler

And Ging knowing ancient History, being in the top 5 of Nen, symbols that resembles a lot...I've the impression that Outside World contrary to popular belief was planned since the beginning.

Mother of god.... Togashi is a genius.

I think that Satotz and Ging need to work together and for Satotz to achieve his goal of thanking Ging.

Yes, please!

I'd like to see an arc dedicated to the Hunters exploring the Outside World. Ging, Gon, Satotz all exploring, Buhara and Menchi, Hanzo (haven't seen much of him lately)... I'd like Kurapika and Leorio to come along, but I don't think that'd happen right away. Same with Killua.

After this hiatus, it'd be interesting to see where Togashi goes with his characters regarding the Outside World.

 

[Cinnabar]

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Nah, not everything came from outside for sure.
But it's indeed suspiciously fitting. Notice that it's the first page of the manga, that speech. Togashi mega-hint :O

Heh, you're probably right.

Oh yeah! It is the first page of the manga. I'm starting to wonder how much Togashi has planned HxH's core story, assuming that he did plan the Outside World since the beginning.

A question for you guys. Do you believe Togashi planned the Outside World since the beginning? And if so, do you think he handled the foreshadowing well, or could he have executed the foreshadowing better?

For me, I think there's just too many going on in the forefront that it's easy to overlook the foreshadowing, which is why the Outside World can easily seem like some randomly thrown idea. I think Togashi has the core story planned out, but he hasn't worked on the details yet. Maybe that's why he takes a lot of hiatuses? Lol.

 

[Demonspeed]

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I think he planned this since the beginning,but I think it'll be the last arc and that we won't see a lot of persons here, remembe,r only chosen ones are gone there.

 

[Uriel]

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To be honest I do think Outside World was foreshadowed since always. Don't know why, but suddenly I realize that the goal of finding Ging wasn't enough. So the goal of his father maybe the thing to lead the plot...If you know what I mean.

 

[Netero]

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I believe Togashi had the whole Outside World/ Dark Continent thing planned out from the very beginning. The chimera ants were just a sample of what's to come in the future once we see the OW

 

[Demonspeed]

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Hanzo's scroll and Sonata of Darkness are certainly there.

So we could even see SATAN!

Do you think Kimera Ants are powerful creatures at Outside? I think not because there are other monsters in the insect class and also because they live in the Hunter World even if they are rare

 

[TheAmericandream]

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Heh, Demonic stuff in HxH could be great, I personally though never want to see a character stronger then Meryem or Macho Gon again. Mostly because I prefer Strategy>Winning with power or transformations. How would we fathom power beyond Meryem without perspective? Now that meryem's dead, we have no context for someone that strong. If we saw Outside monsters beating up Hisoka or Biscuit, then that might be impressive but even then we've seen Netero get trashed by Meryem...this is the problem with Shonen power creep, and I hope we don't have to deal with it in future arcs.

 

[Netero]

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I do believe some of the Outside World inhabitants could at least rival pre-Rose Bomb Meryem. But... what if some of the creatures currently residing in the Outside World, that might be even stronger than post-Rose Bomb Meryem? How would someone possibly deal with that kind of threat!?

400th post!

 

[Raad]

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I'd really appreciate if the dark continent wasn't made into an excuse for every single mystery in the series (Ging's dragons, the sonata and whatnot), would it not be much better if the "old world" kept the original width we had in mind in the beginning of the series, while adding to it an even greater world with even more mysteries? ( *_*)
I'd be okay with it if it's about the origins of nen and maybe a deeper explanation for the "divine writings" (what's it called in the english version?), but that's it!

 

[TheAmericandream]

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Um, but there's no one who can deal with Meryem still...without something like the Rose. Would we have to see characters rely on Rose to fight these outside characters? How would you establish a character being as strong as post rose Meryem, Meryem even pre Rose was hard to fathom, since only Netero was capable of fighting him. How big of a gap was there between Netero and Meryem? That's a big reason why I don't even understand post Rose Meryem, he's only stronger because Togashi told us he is, it was only cool once he started using that cool version of En. But in terms of raw power and aura it seemed limitless pre Rose already (making the power up pointless aside from his new techniques) At least for me, that was one issue I had with post Rose Meryem and the idea of someone stronger then the guy who could one shot Netero...who made the Zoldycks seem like chumps. I don't see how you can make someone seem more imposingly powerful then pre Rose Meryem since outside his mentality he is near invincible (rose is the only thing that came close to real physical harm) The gulf in power is already great, so I don't see the point in going further beyond it in future arcs even if Beyond Netero is stronger then Netero.

 

[Cinnabar]

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I thought Meruem got stronger post nuke because Youpi and Pouf sacrificed themselves to him. And Meruem's ability is that he gets stronger the more he consumes. Or something like that. Considering that Netero (pre-training/pre-rose) was told that even he couldn't defeat the royal guards, then Meruem would have had consumed a lot of strength from Youpi and Pouf. Heck, he was supposed to die from the nuke were it not for the two royal guards.

Well, that's shounen for ya.

I'd rather they just explore the Outside rather than have them fight monsters. There are giants bigger than the continents themselves! Regardless of whether they are stronger than Meruem, pre-nuke or not, I doubt it'd be easy to defeat just one of them.

 

[TheAmericandream]

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^ Agreed, I just want to see something interesting and see our characters fight tough opponents. it's going to be hard to top the Meryem, but I don't think I can be impressed with strength in HxH anymore, since I think he reached the peak of power in the series. That's fine since power isn't the most impressive things about HxH fights. The Chairman arc proved that Hisoka and Illumi are pretty intimidating guys in their own right.

 

[kindredxiuxiu]

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I want to see our characters fight opponents from the outside, but I don't want it to end up like Meryem or Pitou vs. Gon. HxH's appeal comes from fights that don't rely on strength, but also strategy and wits.

 

[futurefrog]

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I'd really appreciate if the dark continent wasn't made into an excuse for every single mystery in the series (Ging's dragons, the sonata and whatnot), would it not be much better if the "old world" kept the original width we had in mind in the beginning of the series, while adding to it an even greater world with even more mysteries? ( *_*)
I'd be okay with it if it's about the origins of nen and maybe a deeper explanation for the "divine writings" (what's it called in the english version?), but that's it!

I believe that the sonata is one of the things that can be explained by the Outside World.
I don't believe it was Satan who wrote the sonata, but a malicious nen user who embued it with a nen curse of some kind.
This could also simply be that the sonata is a normal song in the Outside World but to a normal human it is dangerous.

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Also just wanna say, been rereading Return to Whale Island arc and I find it interesting that Ging's father was lost at sea.
Anyone else think that Ging may be searching for his own father? I think I mentioned this ages ago, but it makes sense if his dad got lost to the Outside.

 

[Uriel]

I think the Sonata works in the same way than the writing of Nen. If you can write Nen I deduce you can use math as well. If you can use math, you can encrypt quite easily and that somewhat leads to logic languages. Music, as you all know, can be written as a result of mathematical operations...So maybe there is a way to change a little bit that song to avoid making yourself damage.
It's possible to be solved in the Outside.


And I like the idea of finding Grandpa :O