Perpetual Reincarnation or Eternal Life?

[OtakuFreak]

If you were in a position where it was unavoidable for you to be cursed by the Gods, which curse would you choose. Essentially, if you had a lover, would you take Elizabeth's position (curse wise only) or Meliodas position?

I'll just layout some ideas and reasons why one curse might be better than the other, but first let's start with the definition of each:

Eternal Life (Meliodas): ''You will never again age, and even if you should die,you will be revived''. Along with the subsequent revival, the cursed individual has their emotions taken from them and consumed by the Demon King - reverting the person back into their former sociopath self (TC Leader Meliodas)

Perpetual Reincarnation (Elizabeth): ''I will continue to live out short life spans as a human, and each time I will forget all my memories of my previous lives. If by some chance, I should regain all my memories of my previous lives. Then no matter what happens or how you try to protect me, after three days, I will unavoidably die. And that isn't all, every time I'm reborn I will inevitably meet and fall in love with you and then just as inevitably, I will lose my life before your eyes;;

(Chapter 224 - http://ww1.read7deadlysins.com/chapter/nanatsu-no-taizai-chapter-224/ ) - Elizabeth's explanation of the curses. besides the emotional effects of Meliodas revival.

Now, both curses make the individual suffer greatly, I think that's already established in the community, but who would you choose if you absolutely had to? Believe it or not, I would choose Meliodas curse, which seems to be relatively held as the worst curse out of the two, but I disagree, I believe it's the better one out of the two.

A lot of you will be wondering how a curse that makes you have to inevitably watch your lover die before your eyes 106 times could be better then being reincarnated, but let me explain.

Yes, Meliodas watching Elizabeth dying 106 times is almost impossible to explain, but at the same time, Elizabeth will always come back to him. When she dies, she immediately becomes a newborn baby, as seen in Danafor and allows the process for Meliodas to watch over her, see her grow up and eventually fall in love when she is at suitable age. Meliodas explains himself in 248, that regardless of her form, Goddess or Princess of Liones, he loved every bit of her and his heart would beat like crazy (iirc) whenever they were intimate (romantically or sexually I imagine). It is painful to lose the one you loved for a lifetime (human wise), and it's even more painful to be unable to do anything to stop the process of falling in love and losing her every time, but at the same time there is a security for Meliodas, he gets Elizabeth back. I'm sure the death of a loved one in the real world is extremely painful because you never get to see them, but for Meliodas he gets the reassurance that she will always come back to him, as the curse dictates this.

Now, of course Meliodas loses his emotions to the Demon King if he dies, but that is if he does die. Meliodas is incredibly powerful, and it took a combination of all the Ten Commandments to bring him down and kill him. Individually, besides the Gods and a few exceptional individuals, it will be difficult to kill Meliodas and make him come back with less emotion. Thus, Meliodas gets to live an immortal life without losing his emotions, which is pretty evident as he is his good self even after 3000 years after the curse, and only transitioned back to his evil self now in recent events.

Now on the other hand, Elizabeth's curse dictates that she will always die and come back. She's reborn as a fragile human who live out short lifespans, and in this space of time she can possibly activate her memories, and if she does, she has a 3 day time period of when she will die. That's pretty terrifying, to recollect all of your memories to only realise that you will die in 3 days time, and leave your loved one in both pain and distress. Guilt is one of the worst human emotions to process and deal with, making this 3 day process pretty terrifying, especially when you consider she just collected back all of her happy and sad memories, which reinforce the fear of dying and leaving Meliodas.

Then again, when she does die she reincarnates into a new life without memories, that's great right? Well not always. Obviously, some reincarnations will be happy lives for Elizabeth as she will have Meliodas in her life and might not trigger the memories (as seen by Nakaba saying she lived to old age one time) but at the same time, 107 lifetimes greatly increases the possibility of experiencing utter shit in a life. Elizabeth obviously died 106 times, which is pretty horrific itself as we saw her one time, impaled by wood through her chest - probably leaving her to die slowly, but besides death itself, what if Elizabeth experienced sexual assault, murder, loss of family herself, mental illness and even physical illness? Point is, everytime she is reborn and given a new life, this isn't always a guaranteed good and sheltered life and it's probably fair to assume that Elizabeth Liones is the pinnacle of her lives, in terms of enjoyment and quality of life.

Final point of why I would choose Meliodas curse over Elizabeth's, is because he has the possibility of being able to break their curses. Elizabeth is now a fragile human, who's weaker physically then a Goddess and might even be magically inferior (another debate another time) then her original self, and with this in mind and her 3 day limit of true memories (of finally understanding the curses and can be able to act) she doesn't really have the possibility of breaking the curses herself, meaning she can't end her own situation or Meliodas individually. That's why she probably made Meliodas promise them to break the curses, since only he can. Obviously, this puts more pressure and guilt on Meliodas in order to break them, but him having the possibility too, through the collection of the ten commandments, is a positive for him.

I've probably rambled on for too long right now and I'm sure I have more ideas as too why I would choose Meliodas curse over Elizabeth's: be sure to give me your ideas on which curse you believe is better or worse and which one would you select out of the two?

I'm not sure if I can myself, but can the moderators maybe add a poll to this thread, depicting a choice between Elizabeth or Meliodas curse, just to make it more clear what the community thinks on this discussion. Thanks for reading all of it, if you did

TL.DR Meliodas or Elizabeth curse if you had to choose one? Discuss.

 

[Tragicdeath]

To be honest I dont see Meliodas eternal life curse because its a blessing. Look if you come to think of it you have the power to do whatever you want without worrying death because youd eventually revive guarantee. You can make sky diving without parachute, bunjy jumping without the rope, drink a kerosene and sense what it feels like, putting yourself in the oven to know how it feels like to those people who commit suicide, you know there are a lot of things you can explore without worrying dying. So the obvious choice is eternal life over eternal death.

PS: I didnt read the whole thing just the question below. And also if I have this power of eternal life I'll go down to the deepest ocean in mariana trench and touch its ground bare foot because its my dream someday I gonna touch mariana trench ground bare footed.

 

[Demonspeed]

Well, Elizabeth has eternal life too, it just works differently.

If I was in their world and in a similar situation, I would definitely choose Elizabeth's. She doesn't remember when she reincarnates so she can live a good life for some time. And there is always someone caring about her. Meliodas has to support all of this and see her die all the time. Power doesn't really matter here.

--- Double Post Merged, May 3, 2018, Original Post Date: May 3, 2018 ---

I am pretty sure you could have done this yourself but I added a poll.

 

[MrSchmitty7]

Mel. Personally I’d rather not get impaled or stabbed or crushed or whatever 106 times or however odd number is left. Imagine trying to sleep knowing that in like a day or so something will just kill you.

 

[titantron91]

Eternal life, if I want to preserve my "self".
I don't like the way Perpetual Reincarnation kills you horribly every time you gain back your memory.

 

[Aetherventus258]

I like the idea of seeing the world as a person who does not die and if he does, he will be revived, as my friend said @Tragicdeath,I would like to see him jump out of a plane without a parachute, jump from a bridge without a bridge and other things.

 

[Gallon]

Why would you even jump from a plane or do something stupid? You still die, but you get revived a few days later. Imagine if someone finds your body, they bury you, and then what? You wake up, buried alive, with no way to go out. That's just dumb.
I'd still take Eternal Life, though. Living a normal life, only to suddenly be overwhelmed by the fact that you're more than just "you" and that death awaits you in 3 days as in Perpetual Reincarnation is certainly not pleasant. Sure, Eternal Life is not pleasant either, but at least it has some pros to it.

 

[HereNThere]

Immortal life. You get to live forever and if you die, you can pop down to purgatory, visit your pops, and be back in time to binge a month's worth of manga chapters you've missed.

 

[Tragicdeath]

Why would you even jump from a plane or do something stupid? You still die, but you get revived a few days later. Imagine if someone finds your body, they bury you, and then what? You wake up, buried alive, with no way to go out. That's just dumb.
I'd still take Eternal Life, though. Living a normal life, only to suddenly be overwhelmed by the fact that you're more than just "you" and that death awaits you in 3 days as in Perpetual Reincarnation is certainly not pleasant. Sure, Eternal Life is not pleasant either, but at least it has some pros to it.

You mean eternal death Elly's curse no? Wait you know gravitational accs is 9.8 m/s2 right? You know how high the plane is from the ground right? Do you think you wont get splattered with the tremendous force from the distance with the constant gravitational acceleration of 9.8 m/s2? Whos your physics teacher bruh I think we should unlicense her for not teaching you basic physics.lol.

 

[Gallon]

You mean eternal death Elly's curse no? Wait you know gravitational accs is 9.8 m/s2 right? You know how high the plane is from the ground right? Do you think you wont get splattered with the tremendous force from the distance with the constant gravitational acceleration of 9.8 m/s2? Whos your physics teacher bruh I think we should unlicense her for not teaching you basic physics.lol.

You won't turn into liquid. Your remains will remain, and they won't be left there after a guy literally sees you jumping from his plane and reports it; whatever your fate, I'd like to see you getting out of it with no issues once revived.
Skydiving is achieved from a much lower height than that of standard plane flights, too.

As far as logic is concerned:

bunjy jumping without the rope

Makes no sense. Your corpse will be buried - good luck getting out.

drink a kerosene and sense what it feels like

Makes no sense. The same as above.

putting yourself in the oven to know how it feels like to those people who commit suicide

People commit suicide by cooking themselves alive? Hey, that's new to me. Cool.

As far as physics is concerned:

PS: I didnt read the whole thing just the question below. And also if I have this power of eternal life I'll go down to the deepest ocean in mariana trench and touch its ground bare foot because its my dream someday I gonna touch mariana trench ground bare footed.

I laughed a bit. As if the pressure won't crush you, as if your revived body will be able to escape from that pressure, as if you'll enjoy being crushed prior to reaching the bottom. That's literally one of the dumbest things to do as an immortal person - to go to a place which you cannot escape (nor reach, for that matter) and be tormented in there for eternity.
wHo'S yOuR pHySiCs TeAcHeR bRo

 

[Tragicdeath]

You won't turn into liquid. Your remains will remain, and they won't be left there after a guy literally sees you jumping from his plane and reports it; whatever your fate, I'd like to see you getting out of it with no issues once revived.
Skydiving is achieved from a much lower height than that of standard plane flights, too.

As far as logic is concerned:

Makes no sense. Your corpse will be buried - good luck getting out.

Makes no sense. The same as above.

People commit suicide by cooking themselves alive? Hey, that's new to me. Cool.

As far as physics is concerned:

I laughed a bit. As if the pressure won't crush you, as if your revived body will be able to escape from that pressure, as if you'll enjoy being crushed prior to reaching the bottom. That's literally one of the dumbest things to do as an immortal person - to go to a place which you cannot escape (nor reach, for that matter) and be tormented in there for eternity.
wHo'S yOuR pHySiCs TeAcHeR bRo

Sorry but I dont agree with your ignorance. I'll give you straight facts shall we but before that this is how high you'd jump off without parachute

Spoiler

If you fell out of an airplane with no parachute, your body would be about 7500 times its normal weight when it hit the ground. This is because your body decelerates so rapidly. In that moment, your brain alone would weigh 10 tons.
Decelerating rapidly (which is what happens when you fall from up high) can cause your cells to burst open. Your blood vessels also get torn open, so they can no longer circulate oxygen throughout your body.
A fall from a great height can rip aorta - the largest blood vessel which pumps blood out of your heart - from it's connection to the heart. Your heart will then continue to beat and spew blood into your body cavity, but this only continues for a few seconds.
So thats straight facts.

 

[Gallon]

Sorry but I dont agree with your ignorance. I'll give you straight facts shall we but before that this is how high you'd jump off without parachute

Spoiler

If you fell out of an airplane with no parachute, your body would be about 7500 times its normal weight when it hit the ground. This is because your body decelerates so rapidly. In that moment, your brain alone would weigh 10 tons.
Decelerating rapidly (which is what happens when you fall from up high) can cause your cells to burst open. Your blood vessels also get torn open, so they can no longer circulate oxygen throughout your body.
A fall from a great height can rip aorta - the largest blood vessel which pumps blood out of your heart - from it's connection to the heart. Your heart will then continue to beat and spew blood into your body cavity, but this only continues for a few seconds.
So thats straight facts.

So, the conclusion is you die? I don't see who you're arguing with - everyone knows that.
Your body will be torn apart, but nobody will leave it there for reassembling as you're making it sound. Eternal Life's application in the current world is very limited.

 

[HereNThere]

How in the flying f--- did physics come into the equation?

 

[Arjuna]

Immortal life is better.You can keep all your memories, learn many things and do forever whatever you like.

 

[Demonspeed]

Huh, so I am the only one who picked reincarnation ? Think about it, you guys are not Mel. Do you think you will be able to live in peace in our modern world? With your family and friends getting older and noticing your immortality?

 

[Arjuna]

Huh, so I am the only one who picked reincarnation ? Think about it, you guys are not Mel. Do you think you will be able to live in peace in our modern world? With your family and friends getting older and noticing your immortality?

I will become the King of this world.So immortality will be great in that situation for some time.

 

[Demonspeed]

I will become the King of this world.So immortality will be great in that situation for some time.

How? We don't have magic powers here. And certainly not at a level which would allow us to conquer the World.

 

[OtakuFreak]

Huh, so I am the only one who picked reincarnation ? Think about it, you guys are not Mel. Do you think you will be able to live in peace in our modern world? With your family and friends getting older and noticing your immortality?

It's a better alternative then getting your memories triggered randomly then having to have to tell your family and friends you're going to die and there is nothing they can do.

Just look at how distraught Elizabeth's dad (The King) and Diane (her best friend) reacted to the news.

I'd take immortality any day.

 

[Gallon]

Huh, so I am the only one who picked reincarnation ? Think about it, you guys are not Mel. Do you think you will be able to live in peace in our modern world? With your family and friends getting older and noticing your immortality?

You won't be normal in either situation. In Perpetual Reincarnation, you're born looking almost identical, with the same name and all - anyone would be suspicious.
Besides, you'd probably die in your youth, leaving your "family" in sorrow and growing up elsewhere completely clueless about yourself or them. By the time you regain your memories, said previous family might be long dead, probably sad that they couldn't do much for you. Not to mention that they'd think you're crazy for telling them about the curse.

Eternal Life is objectively better because you're the only one who suffers.

 

[Arjuna]

How? We don't have magic powers here. And certainly not at a level which would allow us to conquer the World.

We don't need magic power to conquer the world now.I will create a political party to capture the power.And then i will bring the whole world under me with my military might.