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The title says it, make a power-based tier list of the verse.
I've already made mine in another forum and I'll share it here as well. It consists mostly of characters who have at least some feats but you can find few exceptions.
1 tier = x2 overall power, the weakest Ranker in existence is used as a basis for the rating.
Specific forms of some characters are colored in red to avoid confusion.
As a side note, don't jump at me.
I know very well that all of you won't agree about aboslutly everything in the following list, especially when it comes to characters who have a great fanbase and are somehow close overall (people like Kallavan, Jinsung, Prime White, etc). The numbers are approximative after all and might change depending on what heppens in the current arc, some characters are quite speculative as well.
I've already made mine in another forum and I'll share it here as well. It consists mostly of characters who have at least some feats but you can find few exceptions.
1 tier = x2 overall power, the weakest Ranker in existence is used as a basis for the rating.
Specific forms of some characters are colored in red to avoid confusion.
As a side note, don't jump at me.
I know very well that all of you won't agree about aboslutly everything in the following list, especially when it comes to characters who have a great fanbase and are somehow close overall (people like Kallavan, Jinsung, Prime White, etc). The numbers are approximative after all and might change depending on what heppens in the current arc, some characters are quite speculative as well.
Tier 0 : [10, 20[ (low/average Rankers)
Weakest Ranker : 10
Pan : 13
Khun Edahn (Data) : 15
The 25th Baam (post-hidden floor) : 15
The 25th Baam (current, base) : 16 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb and shinsu loops
Daleet : 19
Tier 1 : [20, 40[ (elite Rankers)
Zahard (Data, without Lecalicus) : 20
Quant Blitz : 21
Charlie : 22
Mule Love : 24
Madorako's underline 1 : 24
Madorako's underline 2 : 24
Lopobia Ren : 25
Lero Ro : 28
R : 30
R's twin : 30
Pedro : 30
The 25th Baam (last-station) : 32
Zahard (Data) : 32
Vice altar director : 32
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu) : 35 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb, shinsu loops as well as transformation and Shinwonryuu
Adori Jahad (A-class regular) : 35
Perdo : 35
Tier 2 : [40, 80[ (elite Ranker+/Advanced Ranker/entry High Ranker)
Tall : 40
Grande : 40
Death Lady : 43
Death Karambit : 50
The 25th Baam (current, 1st Thorn) : 50 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb and shinsu loops as well as the 1st Thorn (without stab-mode)
Jordan : 53
White's final clone : 55
Ruel Mon : 55
Venti : 55
Culden : 57
Khul Nissam Kay (the last station) : 72
Berdych : 75
Lopobia Lefav (w/o the super bullets) : 79
Tier 3 : [80, 160[ (High Rankers)
Dorian Frog : 80
Khul Nissam Kay (the nest) : 90
Canzon : 100
Madorako : 130
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn (no stab)) : 115 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb, shinsu loops as well as transformation and Shinwonryuu
Gado : 150
Tier 4 : [160, 320[
So-ooh : 180
Tonki : 180
Yu Hansung : 180
Yolker : 230
Lopobia Lefav (without the super bullets) : 260
Baylord Paul (Cage arc) : 260
Cheonhee Ha : 260
Ari Bright Sharon : 260
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn (no stab) + revolution) : 280 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb, shinsu loops as well as transformation and Shinwonryuu
White (Last station) : 300
White (cage+walls arcs) : 305
Tier 5 : [320, 640[
Karaka : 360
Baylord Doom (cage arc, base) : 400
Elpathion : 520
Baylord Doom (current, base) : 600
The 25th Baam (current) : 620
Tier 6 : [640, 1280[
Mule : 650
Yuri Ha Zahard : 780
Baylord Paul (1st transformation) : 800
Baylord Doom (Prime, base) : 900
Tier 7 : [1280, 2560[
Baylord Yamah (base) : 1100
Lopobia Dokoko (without the windbird) : 1600
Tier 8 : [2560, 5120[ (entry top 300 High Rankers should should start in this tier most likely)
Baylord Doom (current) : 2600
Baylord Paul (current) : 2650
Baylord Doom (Prime) : 3200
Lopobia Dokoko (without soul transfer) : 3500
Tier 9 : [5120, 10.240[
Lopobia Dokoko : 5.500
Dowon : 7.000
Jinsung Ha : 9.000
Cha : 9.000
White (the nest) : 9.500
Tier 10 : [10.240, 20.480[
Kallavan : 10.500
Baylord Yamah : 11.000
Lopobia Lefav : 12.000
Khun Maschenny Zahard : 12.000
White (Prime) : 14.000
Evankhell : 14.000
Khel Hellam : 14.000
Lopobia Yasracha : 16.000
Tier 11 : [20.480, 40.960[
Tier 12 : [40.960, 81.920[ (the weakest High Ranker who reached entry Ranker level when he just climbed up to the 133rd floor as a regular should belong to this tier)
Tier 13 : [81.920,163.840[
Tier 14 : [163.840, 327.680[
Tier 15 : [327.680, 655.360[
Adori Zahard : 330.000
Eurasia Enne Zahard : 330.000
Grace Mirchea Luslec : 330.000
Tier 16 : [655.360, 1.310.720[
Lopobia family head : 1.280.000
Ari Han : 1.280.000
TuPeri TPeri : 1.300.000
Tier 17 : [1.310.720, 2.221.440[
Poe Bidau Gustang : 1.400.000
Hendolock Bloodmadder : 1.600.000
Eurasia Blossom : 1.800.000
Yeon Hana : 1.900.000
Tier 18 : [2.221.440, 5.242.880[
Ha Yurin : 3.000.000
Khun Edahn : 3.200.000
Arie Hon : 3.300.000
Zahard : 3.700.000
Urek Mazino : 3.700.000
Weakest Ranker : 10
Pan : 13
Khun Edahn (Data) : 15
The 25th Baam (post-hidden floor) : 15
The 25th Baam (current, base) : 16 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb and shinsu loops
Daleet : 19
Pan : he was introducted as a low level test Ranker. It's possible for him to be the weakest Ranker but the chances of the opposite are most likely bigger IMO.
Khun Edahn (Data) : Data Z obtained Lecalicus which increased his DC to a whole another level while Edahn didn't seem to have a comparable weapon.
Since Jahad without a weapon > above Edahn without a weapon (a solid cut stronger most likely), a clear difference should be made between their data versions.
The 25th Baam (post-hidden floor) : between the hidden floor arc, Baam trained with the GoGs for several months and gained the 2nd Thorn as well as a little mastery over it.
During the last station arc, he obtained the BM which is a quite decent multiplier even compared to what he had already. So the difference between this Baam and last station Baam should notable.
The 25th Baam (current, base) : he beat Pan after a thought fight (he struggled a lot to land his final blow, he was bleeding on multiple spots and seemed to be really exhausted). Seeing his super fast growth, he certainly got stronger between their fight and the nest war (1 month and half duration). In fact, even when they fought, Baam was becoming stronger in real time as noted by the reporter. So, even if the fight happened a day later, Baam would've had an easier time against Pan.
Daleet : he was one of the two strongest out of the four Rankers in Dowon's wall. Despite being in a remote region, he isn't a weak Ranker (blogpost).
Khun Edahn (Data) : Data Z obtained Lecalicus which increased his DC to a whole another level while Edahn didn't seem to have a comparable weapon.
Since Jahad without a weapon > above Edahn without a weapon (a solid cut stronger most likely), a clear difference should be made between their data versions.
The 25th Baam (post-hidden floor) : between the hidden floor arc, Baam trained with the GoGs for several months and gained the 2nd Thorn as well as a little mastery over it.
During the last station arc, he obtained the BM which is a quite decent multiplier even compared to what he had already. So the difference between this Baam and last station Baam should notable.
The 25th Baam (current, base) : he beat Pan after a thought fight (he struggled a lot to land his final blow, he was bleeding on multiple spots and seemed to be really exhausted). Seeing his super fast growth, he certainly got stronger between their fight and the nest war (1 month and half duration). In fact, even when they fought, Baam was becoming stronger in real time as noted by the reporter. So, even if the fight happened a day later, Baam would've had an easier time against Pan.
Daleet : he was one of the two strongest out of the four Rankers in Dowon's wall. Despite being in a remote region, he isn't a weak Ranker (blogpost).
Tier 1 : [20, 40[ (elite Rankers)
Zahard (Data, without Lecalicus) : 20
Quant Blitz : 21
Charlie : 22
Mule Love : 24
Madorako's underline 1 : 24
Madorako's underline 2 : 24
Lopobia Ren : 25
Lero Ro : 28
R : 30
R's twin : 30
Pedro : 30
The 25th Baam (last-station) : 32
Zahard (Data) : 32
Vice altar director : 32
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu) : 35 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb, shinsu loops as well as transformation and Shinwonryuu
Adori Jahad (A-class regular) : 35
Perdo : 35
Quant Blitz : his power was noted to be similar to Lero Ro, so he's quite an elite Ranker although weaker.
Charlie : an elite Ranker who was hired by the altar due to his oustanding abilities. However, based on his fights against Baam, whether in the last station or the nest, he doesn't seem to be way stronger than low or average Rankers. I mean, be it power, speed, skill, he didn't shown something otherwordly. He is probably among the top 40000 or higher.
Mule Love : although the stats cards were deleted since they became obsolete, Love's total score was between Quant and Lero Ro. So, he should be arround their level.
Madorako's underline 1 : he fought on par with Lero Ro, however the latter didn't have a lighthouse (and he is a lightbearer/Fisherman) and therefore I'd rather argue that Ro should be a bit stronger.
Madorako's underline 2 : should be comparable to his compagnion. Both died to White rather easily.
Lopobia Ren : a member of Red, which implies he is quite a strong Ranker. He was able to manifest a bang two years after starting to learn about shinsu skills and was called a genius for that.
Lero Ro : he is exceptionally strong for his age. Most Rankers respect and hold him in high regards. He's also stronger than Ren since he is a Jeonsula.
The 25th Baam (current, Shinwonryuu + transformation) : with Shinwonryuu, he can easily neutralize extremely destructive skills like Dowon's flowers (although she was obviously holding back). This ability also gives him some kind of hax (neutralizing support shinsu skills like White noise, draining poison, etc) and is quite destructive itself. I doubt any average or barely elite Ranker would tank a direct hit.
With the Red Thryssa, he could compete and even overwhelm Charlie at close combat (he broke his poisonous needle). Furtheremore, he is skilled enough not leave openings even for elite Rankers.
Now, if he combines all offensively Red Thryssa+Shinwonryuu in melee/mid range or Shinsu loops+Orb-Shinwonryuu from long range, his DC at least reaches new heights (probably comparable to HRs), so in a potential fight against Charlie, Baam would one sidely overwhelm him and kill him once he starts using his best cards.
R : Jordan "argh"ed a bit when he attacked using his transformed arm and needed Baam to contain him for 10 seconds in order to immobilize him for sure. In oreder to push an advanced Ranker this much, R was without a doubt an elite Ranker at least.
His only anti-feat is him being overwhelmed by base Baam, however he didn't have knowledge about his power and he was probably reserving a move in the case Jordan strikes.
I can't go any higher since overall, he wasn't that much impressive compared to Pan. I mean, he certainly has more firepower thanks to transformation but I'm not very confident that his other stats are much higher.
R's twin : he lost high diff to Baam without transformation. Still, his durability/Shinsu resistance is notably higher than Pan's since he was able to stand after taking a Flare wave explosion while Pan was knocked by the weaker Wave zero. Seeing how his normal bangs and CQC cornered Baam (basically the same way as Pan), his transformed arm should provide him way more DC than Pan as well.
Pedro : quite an elite Ranker who has enough power to join the Z royal guards according to Yuri.
The 25th Baam (last station) : (post-hidden floor) Baam was more or less arround data Z in most battle areas but can't keep Thorn ignition for long and can't use his transcendent skill more than once or twice meanwhile data Z can spam Leviathan.
However, as noted above the last station Baam is notably stronger than the one who fought Data Zahard. In fact, he may even in conjunction with the first (if he is ).
SIU implied that despite his great firepower, it's not sure whether he can beat a Ranker or not since a fight isn't decided with DC alone.
Zahard (Data) : his DC with Lecalicus is out of the charts. Once he activates the third form, his damage level becomes comparable to s2 Baam's Stardust, above average HR's paygrade. Still, he is barely Ranker level in everything else.
Vice altar director : Charlie's superior, he is also older than him and therefore stronger.
Adori Jahad (A-class regular) : According to ancient character profiles that were posted by SIU arround 10 years ago, Adori defeated an elite Ranker quite easily as regular. More recently we learned that she did it as an A-class regular.
Now, those old profiles were removed because the plot changed a lot and became private, therefore everything shouldn't be taken seriously unless it really happens according to SIU.
In the manhwa, it was confirmed that Adori defeated a Ranker as an A-class regular but whether he was an elite Ranker or not and whether she beat him easily or not wasn't noted. Still, seing how this part of the profile became official, let's say that she defeated an elite Ranker quite easily.
Charlie : an elite Ranker who was hired by the altar due to his oustanding abilities. However, based on his fights against Baam, whether in the last station or the nest, he doesn't seem to be way stronger than low or average Rankers. I mean, be it power, speed, skill, he didn't shown something otherwordly. He is probably among the top 40000 or higher.
Mule Love : although the stats cards were deleted since they became obsolete, Love's total score was between Quant and Lero Ro. So, he should be arround their level.
Madorako's underline 1 : he fought on par with Lero Ro, however the latter didn't have a lighthouse (and he is a lightbearer/Fisherman) and therefore I'd rather argue that Ro should be a bit stronger.
Madorako's underline 2 : should be comparable to his compagnion. Both died to White rather easily.
Lopobia Ren : a member of Red, which implies he is quite a strong Ranker. He was able to manifest a bang two years after starting to learn about shinsu skills and was called a genius for that.
Lero Ro : he is exceptionally strong for his age. Most Rankers respect and hold him in high regards. He's also stronger than Ren since he is a Jeonsula.
The 25th Baam (current, Shinwonryuu + transformation) : with Shinwonryuu, he can easily neutralize extremely destructive skills like Dowon's flowers (although she was obviously holding back). This ability also gives him some kind of hax (neutralizing support shinsu skills like White noise, draining poison, etc) and is quite destructive itself. I doubt any average or barely elite Ranker would tank a direct hit.
With the Red Thryssa, he could compete and even overwhelm Charlie at close combat (he broke his poisonous needle). Furtheremore, he is skilled enough not leave openings even for elite Rankers.
Now, if he combines all offensively Red Thryssa+Shinwonryuu in melee/mid range or Shinsu loops+Orb-Shinwonryuu from long range, his DC at least reaches new heights (probably comparable to HRs), so in a potential fight against Charlie, Baam would one sidely overwhelm him and kill him once he starts using his best cards.
R : Jordan "argh"ed a bit when he attacked using his transformed arm and needed Baam to contain him for 10 seconds in order to immobilize him for sure. In oreder to push an advanced Ranker this much, R was without a doubt an elite Ranker at least.
His only anti-feat is him being overwhelmed by base Baam, however he didn't have knowledge about his power and he was probably reserving a move in the case Jordan strikes.
I can't go any higher since overall, he wasn't that much impressive compared to Pan. I mean, he certainly has more firepower thanks to transformation but I'm not very confident that his other stats are much higher.
R's twin : he lost high diff to Baam without transformation. Still, his durability/Shinsu resistance is notably higher than Pan's since he was able to stand after taking a Flare wave explosion while Pan was knocked by the weaker Wave zero. Seeing how his normal bangs and CQC cornered Baam (basically the same way as Pan), his transformed arm should provide him way more DC than Pan as well.
Pedro : quite an elite Ranker who has enough power to join the Z royal guards according to Yuri.
The 25th Baam (last station) : (post-hidden floor) Baam was more or less arround data Z in most battle areas but can't keep Thorn ignition for long and can't use his transcendent skill more than once or twice meanwhile data Z can spam Leviathan.
However, as noted above the last station Baam is notably stronger than the one who fought Data Zahard. In fact, he may even in conjunction with the first (if he is ).
SIU implied that despite his great firepower, it's not sure whether he can beat a Ranker or not since a fight isn't decided with DC alone.
Zahard (Data) : his DC with Lecalicus is out of the charts. Once he activates the third form, his damage level becomes comparable to s2 Baam's Stardust, above average HR's paygrade. Still, he is barely Ranker level in everything else.
Vice altar director : Charlie's superior, he is also older than him and therefore stronger.
Adori Jahad (A-class regular) : According to ancient character profiles that were posted by SIU arround 10 years ago, Adori defeated an elite Ranker quite easily as regular. More recently we learned that she did it as an A-class regular.
Now, those old profiles were removed because the plot changed a lot and became private, therefore everything shouldn't be taken seriously unless it really happens according to SIU.
In the manhwa, it was confirmed that Adori defeated a Ranker as an A-class regular but whether he was an elite Ranker or not and whether she beat him easily or not wasn't noted. Still, seing how this part of the profile became official, let's say that she defeated an elite Ranker quite easily.
Tier 2 : [40, 80[ (elite Ranker+/Advanced Ranker/entry High Ranker)
Tall : 40
Grande : 40
Death Lady : 43
Death Karambit : 50
The 25th Baam (current, 1st Thorn) : 50 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb and shinsu loops as well as the 1st Thorn (without stab-mode)
Jordan : 53
White's final clone : 55
Ruel Mon : 55
Venti : 55
Culden : 57
Khul Nissam Kay (the last station) : 72
Berdych : 75
Lopobia Lefav (w/o the super bullets) : 79
Tall : quite a strong Ranker, he fought evenly with Jordan until the latter unleashed the 3rd transformation.
Grande : One of Paul's three leaders. She fought Death Lady for 9 chapters and had her jacket shattered as a result, she wasn't defeated though, which proves that she is slightly weaker than Death Lady.
Strange as it is, despite being a houndborn, she doesn't seem to use transformation.
Death Lady : see above.
Death Karambit : He fought Dorian Frog for at least three chapters and didn't seem to lose. Seeing how Pollack was disabled (due to White's attack), Frog was certainly weakened but it was still a very impressive feat regardless.
SIU also said that Karaka's minions are either close to or stronger than Pedro who is enough powerful to join Zahard royal guards according to Yuri.
The 25th Baam (current, 1st Thorn) : The first Thorn is several times multiplier of all stats. According to SIU, even a canine Ranker with transformation won't be sure about his chances against this Baam. He said that before gaining transformation power from Doom, so I guess this is the right placement for him.
Jordan : His 2nd transformation wasn't really impressive. He struggled to capture R with just that as he needed Baam's help (to contain R for 10 seconds) to immobilize him. Similarly, he didn't seem to edge Tall at all.
However with the 3rd transformation, his firepower increases a lot (he sliced Tall's transformed arm in one swoop) and he gains more hax (he can shoot anything under the scope with an invisible force).
White's final clone : she was noted to be stronger than a Ranker.
Ruel Mon : he barely have any feats as a fighter, so we can't say how strong he is. However, he is the 7th in command, so weaker than Culden most likely. With the ancient spear he can be higher.
Culden : 6th in command in Yamah's gang. He sent flying a non-serious R who could still level up in base.
Venti : although he was just a Ranker, Berdych kinda implied that he is a good fighting material because he can transform 3 times.
Berdych : according to her, Rankers who can transform 3 times can be a good fighting material, so Jordan, Ruel Mon and Culden are kinda close to her in power.
Khun Nissam Kay (the last station) : an assistant division commander, Evankhell sent him flying with a single punch (+body strengthening) and said that he isn't worthy fighting her. Probably one of the weakest High Rankers.
Lopobia Lefav (without the super bullets and the crabs) : her basic combat skills are below average High Ranker level, which means she is probably entry/low HR tier.
Grande : One of Paul's three leaders. She fought Death Lady for 9 chapters and had her jacket shattered as a result, she wasn't defeated though, which proves that she is slightly weaker than Death Lady.
Strange as it is, despite being a houndborn, she doesn't seem to use transformation.
Death Lady : see above.
Death Karambit : He fought Dorian Frog for at least three chapters and didn't seem to lose. Seeing how Pollack was disabled (due to White's attack), Frog was certainly weakened but it was still a very impressive feat regardless.
SIU also said that Karaka's minions are either close to or stronger than Pedro who is enough powerful to join Zahard royal guards according to Yuri.
The 25th Baam (current, 1st Thorn) : The first Thorn is several times multiplier of all stats. According to SIU, even a canine Ranker with transformation won't be sure about his chances against this Baam. He said that before gaining transformation power from Doom, so I guess this is the right placement for him.
Jordan : His 2nd transformation wasn't really impressive. He struggled to capture R with just that as he needed Baam's help (to contain R for 10 seconds) to immobilize him. Similarly, he didn't seem to edge Tall at all.
However with the 3rd transformation, his firepower increases a lot (he sliced Tall's transformed arm in one swoop) and he gains more hax (he can shoot anything under the scope with an invisible force).
White's final clone : she was noted to be stronger than a Ranker.
Ruel Mon : he barely have any feats as a fighter, so we can't say how strong he is. However, he is the 7th in command, so weaker than Culden most likely. With the ancient spear he can be higher.
Culden : 6th in command in Yamah's gang. He sent flying a non-serious R who could still level up in base.
Venti : although he was just a Ranker, Berdych kinda implied that he is a good fighting material because he can transform 3 times.
Berdych : according to her, Rankers who can transform 3 times can be a good fighting material, so Jordan, Ruel Mon and Culden are kinda close to her in power.
Khun Nissam Kay (the last station) : an assistant division commander, Evankhell sent him flying with a single punch (+body strengthening) and said that he isn't worthy fighting her. Probably one of the weakest High Rankers.
Lopobia Lefav (without the super bullets and the crabs) : her basic combat skills are below average High Ranker level, which means she is probably entry/low HR tier.
Tier 3 : [80, 160[ (High Rankers)
Dorian Frog : 80
Khul Nissam Kay (the nest) : 90
Canzon : 100
Madorako : 130
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn (no stab)) : 115 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb, shinsu loops as well as transformation and Shinwonryuu
Gado : 150
Dorian Frog : an assistant division commander. With just the mucus and the well, he is probably advanced Ranker in power (on the stronger side), seeing how Death Karambit could fight him for 3 chapters at least. With the ancient frog (Pollak), he reaches the High Ranker sphere, just barely though. While Pollack's waves sent White flying (in his weakened "stronger than a Ranker" state), the latter didn't sustain any injuries.
Khul Nissam Kay (the nest) : he got a new weapon made from the hardest mineral in Cherry river, so it can't break so easily as the last time against Evankhell. It's also a bit better in both offense and defense since it's very sturdy.
Canzon : former third in command in Yamah's pack. Although he lost continuously to Gado, he still trained very hard believing that he can catch up and surpass him someday.
Madorako : he was scrared of Karaka but quite confident about fighting Hansung in 1v1 fight (since he asked So-ooh to let him handle things alone). Seeing how Hansung is more of the skilled-type (although Karaka is quite talented himself), it can be guessed that the latter's reatsu is notably weaker than the slayer's, which explains Madorako's reactions.
Furtheremore, Madorako's vibe isn't especially powerful since Death Lady was confident about tracking him alone. Based on these facts, I'd rater argue that he's a bit weaker than Hansung.
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn : The Thorn updrages all of Baam's abilities to a whole another level (several times stronger).
Gado : former second in command in Yamah's pack. He quickly one shotted Berdych when she was off-guard and noted that he did that because she is strong, implying that while stronger, there is still some kind of proximity between him Canzon and Berdych.
Khul Nissam Kay (the nest) : he got a new weapon made from the hardest mineral in Cherry river, so it can't break so easily as the last time against Evankhell. It's also a bit better in both offense and defense since it's very sturdy.
Canzon : former third in command in Yamah's pack. Although he lost continuously to Gado, he still trained very hard believing that he can catch up and surpass him someday.
Madorako : he was scrared of Karaka but quite confident about fighting Hansung in 1v1 fight (since he asked So-ooh to let him handle things alone). Seeing how Hansung is more of the skilled-type (although Karaka is quite talented himself), it can be guessed that the latter's reatsu is notably weaker than the slayer's, which explains Madorako's reactions.
Furtheremore, Madorako's vibe isn't especially powerful since Death Lady was confident about tracking him alone. Based on these facts, I'd rater argue that he's a bit weaker than Hansung.
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn : The Thorn updrages all of Baam's abilities to a whole another level (several times stronger).
Gado : former second in command in Yamah's pack. He quickly one shotted Berdych when she was off-guard and noted that he did that because she is strong, implying that while stronger, there is still some kind of proximity between him Canzon and Berdych.
Tier 4 : [160, 320[
So-ooh : 180
Tonki : 180
Yu Hansung : 180
Yolker : 230
Lopobia Lefav (without the super bullets) : 260
Baylord Paul (Cage arc) : 260
Cheonhee Ha : 260
Ari Bright Sharon : 260
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn (no stab) + revolution) : 280 //includes the usage of normal shinsu skills, Orb, shinsu loops as well as transformation and Shinwonryuu
White (Last station) : 300
White (cage+walls arcs) : 305
Yu Hansung : Standard High Ranker in power.
In the last station, he'd have lost his life to Cheonhee's shining fan if not for Yuri saving him (the blast was above what he could handle defensively, or so he said). However, he was protecting the regulars behind him so it'd come to sens to take the risk instead of dodging.
In the nest however, he fought this same Cheonhee for an extended amount of time with no winner. Sure thing, he had the help of Gromm and Death Bird but I don't think their support was very relevant giving their power. In summary, a fight isn't just about firepower.
Also, as noted above, Hansung was shown fighting evenly with So-oh (an anti-WC High Ranker).
Soo-oh : she easily fended off Hansung's waves but she is a bad matchup for wave controllers. In contrast, she didn't seem to harass him offensively either.
Tonki : a High Ranker level individual who was killed by Kallavan's strongest punch.
Yolker : he refused a division commander position because he wanted to be under Kallavan's order. Strangely enough, he wasn't introduced as a division commander either when he was sent to the floor of test to kill Hansung. So, I guess, he's still a bit below other confirmed division commanders like Cheonhee or Sharon. He's pretty speculative though.
Lopobia Lefav (without the super bullets) : her basic combat skills are below average High Ranker level, which means she is probably entry/low HR tier.
However, even after firing two bullets, in which case she becomes far weaker than an average Ranker (if one bullet already makes her weaker than an average Ranker, imagine the rebound of a second bullet...), she can protect herself with powerful crabs, strong enough to block an attack from an uncompressed Evankhell. So, rating her isn't easy.
Based on what she said, it's pretty much obvious that the anima skills weren't included when she was talking about the rebounds (imagine creatures far weaker than an average Ranker stopping attacks from an uncompressed Evankhell...), so basically Lefav = her won low HR skills + HR level shineuh. I guess, she'd be comparable to division commanders. She might be higher or lower depending on the featless crabs.
Paul : his offensive skills has two levels :
-the few green bangs that's often roam arround him
-massive green beasts.
He one shotted Culden like a fodder (using the green bangs) with the latter noting how there is an unimaginably large gap between them. In contrast, he also noted that Gado would've being the greatest obstacle in overtaking Yamah.
Furtheremore, he was shown fighting two average HRs on panel :
-Karaka : he matched Karaka's thendrills with his stuff and green bangs and was mementarilly blocked once the slayer surrounded him with the dark world bangs from all sides.
-Lopobia Hasatcha : a division commander in the 5th squadron. She easily matched his green bangs with her smoke-like ghosts. While Paul could've went to the next level with the green beasts, Hasatcha didn't seem really trying either.
If we sum up all his feats and hype elements, Paul (in base, prior to unlocking transformation) is more or less within the "division commander" level.
Cheonhee Ha : she has interesting weapons :
-Sylpheed : defensively, it can erect sturdy barriers strong enough to fend off Last station White's squadron commander level attack to the point of Dorian not being oughtright killed.
Offensively, it was strong enough to slice Gromm's arm like nothing, however Hansung could match it with his shinsu skills.
-Shining fan : a nameless blast was above what Hansung could handle meanwhile Yuri's bubble-like weapon blocked it with ease. Vortex of Doom however required Yuri to use Rose Shower to bypass it.
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn + revolution : Thorn + revolution made Baam far stronger than with just the Thorn as shown in his fight against Data Z. Now, he can even use three extremely massive Orb-Shinwonryuu and Stardust without Thorn ignition.
His strongest moves alone are probably on par with top 300 HRs transcendental skills but he can't use them more than several times in a fight.
While he isn't too durable, he can protect himself with BT shield depending on the situation or at least fend off with some complexe shinsu skills. Furhteremore, he can't keep his powers for the long run. His stamina, especially when he uses his strongest moves/multipliers, drops very quickly compared to average HRs.
White (Last station) : he overwhelmed Dorian Frog once he started being serious and would've one shotted him if not for Cheonhee's support. A bit later, he was shown figthing equally with Sharon and would've most likely wiped her alongside the rest of the troops.
Still, giving his stamina issues, I can't see him defeating two division commander tier fighters at the same time or two in a row, therefore, he can't be far above this paygrade.
White (cage+walls arcs) : giving his power, it's not 2/3 years of growth which would've made him noticeably stronger. As noted by SIU, there was still a massive gap between him and what he was in his prime. His fight against Kallavan kinda proves it.
In the last station, he'd have lost his life to Cheonhee's shining fan if not for Yuri saving him (the blast was above what he could handle defensively, or so he said). However, he was protecting the regulars behind him so it'd come to sens to take the risk instead of dodging.
In the nest however, he fought this same Cheonhee for an extended amount of time with no winner. Sure thing, he had the help of Gromm and Death Bird but I don't think their support was very relevant giving their power. In summary, a fight isn't just about firepower.
Also, as noted above, Hansung was shown fighting evenly with So-oh (an anti-WC High Ranker).
Soo-oh : she easily fended off Hansung's waves but she is a bad matchup for wave controllers. In contrast, she didn't seem to harass him offensively either.
Tonki : a High Ranker level individual who was killed by Kallavan's strongest punch.
Yolker : he refused a division commander position because he wanted to be under Kallavan's order. Strangely enough, he wasn't introduced as a division commander either when he was sent to the floor of test to kill Hansung. So, I guess, he's still a bit below other confirmed division commanders like Cheonhee or Sharon. He's pretty speculative though.
Lopobia Lefav (without the super bullets) : her basic combat skills are below average High Ranker level, which means she is probably entry/low HR tier.
However, even after firing two bullets, in which case she becomes far weaker than an average Ranker (if one bullet already makes her weaker than an average Ranker, imagine the rebound of a second bullet...), she can protect herself with powerful crabs, strong enough to block an attack from an uncompressed Evankhell. So, rating her isn't easy.
Based on what she said, it's pretty much obvious that the anima skills weren't included when she was talking about the rebounds (imagine creatures far weaker than an average Ranker stopping attacks from an uncompressed Evankhell...), so basically Lefav = her won low HR skills + HR level shineuh. I guess, she'd be comparable to division commanders. She might be higher or lower depending on the featless crabs.
Paul : his offensive skills has two levels :
-the few green bangs that's often roam arround him
-massive green beasts.
He one shotted Culden like a fodder (using the green bangs) with the latter noting how there is an unimaginably large gap between them. In contrast, he also noted that Gado would've being the greatest obstacle in overtaking Yamah.
Furtheremore, he was shown fighting two average HRs on panel :
-Karaka : he matched Karaka's thendrills with his stuff and green bangs and was mementarilly blocked once the slayer surrounded him with the dark world bangs from all sides.
-Lopobia Hasatcha : a division commander in the 5th squadron. She easily matched his green bangs with her smoke-like ghosts. While Paul could've went to the next level with the green beasts, Hasatcha didn't seem really trying either.
If we sum up all his feats and hype elements, Paul (in base, prior to unlocking transformation) is more or less within the "division commander" level.
Cheonhee Ha : she has interesting weapons :
-Sylpheed : defensively, it can erect sturdy barriers strong enough to fend off Last station White's squadron commander level attack to the point of Dorian not being oughtright killed.
Offensively, it was strong enough to slice Gromm's arm like nothing, however Hansung could match it with his shinsu skills.
-Shining fan : a nameless blast was above what Hansung could handle meanwhile Yuri's bubble-like weapon blocked it with ease. Vortex of Doom however required Yuri to use Rose Shower to bypass it.
The 25th Baam (current, transformation + Shinwonryuu + 1st Thorn + revolution : Thorn + revolution made Baam far stronger than with just the Thorn as shown in his fight against Data Z. Now, he can even use three extremely massive Orb-Shinwonryuu and Stardust without Thorn ignition.
His strongest moves alone are probably on par with top 300 HRs transcendental skills but he can't use them more than several times in a fight.
While he isn't too durable, he can protect himself with BT shield depending on the situation or at least fend off with some complexe shinsu skills. Furhteremore, he can't keep his powers for the long run. His stamina, especially when he uses his strongest moves/multipliers, drops very quickly compared to average HRs.
White (Last station) : he overwhelmed Dorian Frog once he started being serious and would've one shotted him if not for Cheonhee's support. A bit later, he was shown figthing equally with Sharon and would've most likely wiped her alongside the rest of the troops.
Still, giving his stamina issues, I can't see him defeating two division commander tier fighters at the same time or two in a row, therefore, he can't be far above this paygrade.
White (cage+walls arcs) : giving his power, it's not 2/3 years of growth which would've made him noticeably stronger. As noted by SIU, there was still a massive gap between him and what he was in his prime. His fight against Kallavan kinda proves it.
Tier 5 : [320, 640[
Karaka : 360
Baylord Doom (cage arc, base) : 400
Elpathion : 520
Baylord Doom (current, base) : 600
The 25th Baam (current) : 620
Karaka : seeing how Cheonhee was appointed to fight him, especially when the Zahard's army had a precise judgement of his power (they recorded the last station incident) and most likely additional data from Yuri, Karaka's normal skills are arround the "division commander" paygrade.
Still, he is very hax (Damage Counter) and has some unique abilities such as instant regeneration (using his armor's spell).
Furtheremore, his self-destruction is insanely strong and only possible form him (with his immortality spell). Seeing how he could escape Urek alongside White by using this ability, the DC probably stands on a whole another level compared to his other skills.
Still, it's only a last-ressort ability and it has some serious side-effects (he can only manifest his head for a while upon usage).
Who knows what would've happened to Yuri if she took the blast directly.
Baylord Doom (cage arc, base) : he casually one shotted Gado. Although the latter was missing a leg, it was regardless a very impressive feat and I don't think the outcome would've been much different even if he was 100% operational.
Yamah also noted that Karaka doesn't stand much of a chance against him, transformation might've been included in the comparison but Doom is most likely a stronger monster even in base. I mean, someone of comparable power to Karaka (base Paul) was already put on the defensive against the winbird's residual wind while "base" Doom was doing just fine.
There should be some kind of proximity with Yamah as well. this version of Doom may be weaker that what he was in his prime but the difference shouldn't be massive either and as we know base Prime Doom with both arms shouldn't be much weaker than current base Yamah giving their stalemate barring the full transformation.
Elpathion : he is hard to place, just seeing his status (vice-squadron commander, only 1st tier servant in the 4th squadron), he should be decently above division commanders. While he showed great defensive and support skills, they're hard to quantify really.
But seeing his position as lightbearer, he shouldn't be very strong in 1v1 fights.
Baylord Doom (current, base) : he retrieved his missing arm, which implies a little power up.
The 25th Baam (current) :
Still, he is very hax (Damage Counter) and has some unique abilities such as instant regeneration (using his armor's spell).
Furtheremore, his self-destruction is insanely strong and only possible form him (with his immortality spell). Seeing how he could escape Urek alongside White by using this ability, the DC probably stands on a whole another level compared to his other skills.
Still, it's only a last-ressort ability and it has some serious side-effects (he can only manifest his head for a while upon usage).
Who knows what would've happened to Yuri if she took the blast directly.
Baylord Doom (cage arc, base) : he casually one shotted Gado. Although the latter was missing a leg, it was regardless a very impressive feat and I don't think the outcome would've been much different even if he was 100% operational.
Yamah also noted that Karaka doesn't stand much of a chance against him, transformation might've been included in the comparison but Doom is most likely a stronger monster even in base. I mean, someone of comparable power to Karaka (base Paul) was already put on the defensive against the winbird's residual wind while "base" Doom was doing just fine.
There should be some kind of proximity with Yamah as well. this version of Doom may be weaker that what he was in his prime but the difference shouldn't be massive either and as we know base Prime Doom with both arms shouldn't be much weaker than current base Yamah giving their stalemate barring the full transformation.
Elpathion : he is hard to place, just seeing his status (vice-squadron commander, only 1st tier servant in the 4th squadron), he should be decently above division commanders. While he showed great defensive and support skills, they're hard to quantify really.
But seeing his position as lightbearer, he shouldn't be very strong in 1v1 fights.
Baylord Doom (current, base) : he retrieved his missing arm, which implies a little power up.
The 25th Baam (current) :
I-Thorn boost
According to Karaka, just the Thorn alone should make Baam jump 2 or 3 tiers.
I mean, this is what he noted in chronological order :
-after waking Yama up with the wave explosions : "Like that Airwave he used to wake Yamah up. It wasn't as powerful as mine of course, but it was . It sounds ridiculous, but if he activates the Thorn, ".
-After Baam dodging and repeling R's twin, he noted that he is.
-Prior to Baam defeating R's twin, he still believed that Baam couldn't have won against R's twin .
Basically, Karaka thought that the Thorn would boost Baam from being one shotted by the weakest Ranker (without being able to do anything) to actually beating him cleanly.
If we were to put that in numbers, that should be arround two tiers jump at least, so a x4/5 overall boost.
From the blogpost of the same chapter :
"With the Thorn activated, even a Houndborn Ranker with Metamorphosis techniques would not be sure of his chances against Baam. His attack for sure at least is reaching new heights. The fight was indeed cut short by Gado, but Baam still had a few cards he could have still played, so the match probably would have gone the same.".
So, Baam without the Thorn > R's twin without tranformation but R's twin with transformation can potentially beat Baam with the Thorn ? Based on some canine Rankers feats, transformation certainly boosts their DC a lot (and a little bit their versatility in some cases), but it's not such a drastic power up overall. So, it kinda contradicts Karaka's estimations for the Thorn.
In contrast, there is a disparity in power between canine Rankers themselves. Some are elite Ranker, others are close to advanced Rankers, some are advanced Rankers themselves? In fact even canine High Rankers (Bedytch, Canzon, Gado) exist, albeit weak ones. So, if SIU's statement was more general, then it'd make more sens.
II-Baam and Gado's comparison
"Baam can't get a grip because of Gado's strong attacks. Like I said last week, it's already remarkable that a Regular like Baam is able to even survive this long ^^;; Of course, due to various external circumstances Gado can't actually try to kill Baam properly. This is when you need to give plot armor to your main characters.".
Basically, base Baam with RT transformation only survived this long because of plot armor => 7thT Gado can beat him in no time under neutral conditions.
About Baam with the Thorn + RT :
"Anyway, we see Baam with the Thorn for the first time in a while. Even with the Thorn, since he's facing a High Ranker this can't be easy, but I hope you look forward to how the story will progress.".
So, this version of Baam can at least make things very difficult for Gado.
II-Multipliers and speed boost vs Gado's speed
If we're to talk about just the Thorn, then not only shinsu, every single physical stat is greatly boosted, including speed (ie: Baam's prior to the hell train arc or when he was chased in by Jahad and the Thorn to his first attack). Although the amp is probably not close to a "moving normally -> speedblizing" level (other regulars were still seeing him moving and reacting to his attacks).
Furtheremore, base Baam was struggling just to handle Karaka's . Seeing how Gado was faster than any non-super HR inside the cage ("Besides the super-high rankers so far, Gado is probably the ."), it further confirms the massive difference between base Baam and 7thT Gado.
Now, even if Gado held back and Baam had plot armor, the former used his highest level partial transformation (7th level), so there is some kind of proximity between him and base Baam. Therefore, with the Thorn, the slayer candidate can at least handle his speed comfortably to some extent.
Now, as shown in his fight against Data Zahard, Baam with the 1st Thorn + revolution >> Baam with just the 1st Thorn. Revolution is a massive power up, at least in terms of attacking potency. Zahard went from unleashing half-assed attacks to attacking seriously with Lecalicous, Coelacanth and Cosmos, this alone clearly shows the big gap.
The thing is that Baam's revolution consists on taking part of the red and blue Thryssas power and making it his own (ie: SIU's blogpost) and like the Thorn, (the blue Thryssa at least), the Thryssas don't just boost the DC alone, physical stats are amplified as well, greatly at that.
For example, in the fight against Buelsar, Baam kept getting and just by borrowing 's abilities. In the next tests, thanks to this power, he a regular who was hidden with a when even couldn't, he defeated another one with , leaving Khun shocked (since ) and he was able to percieve the movements of another foe at .
We don't know much about the red Thryssa but at least Baam's range from which he could use shinsu as well as the ability to read and judge situations to a + It'd make more sens for it to boost the physical stats as well.
In summary, the thryssas are great physical stats and shinsu boosters.
Furtheremore, it was explicitly shown that revolution+Thorn Baam's perception/sensing at least reaches a compared to him with just the Thorn alone.
If we look from another perspective, body strengthening is fueled by shinsu, so it'd make sens for it to grow proportionally to the quantity/potency of shinsu of the said character.
III-Baam compared to Gado and Karaka
If we were to compare Baam to Gado under different forms, I'd say :
-Baam (base) : seeing how Gado is most likely faster than Karaka or base Paul (not by much but still), it'd make sens for him to speedblitz Baam if he uses the 7th level transformation at full potency. Especially when Baam with plot armor was with Gado who was nerfing himself (see blogpost above).
-Baam (1st Thorn) : Baam's speed and reactions are greatly boosted. I'd argue that he's still decently slower than Gado but at least he'd keep up with him quite comfortably (a "being speedblitzed => blocking without much struggle" amp).
In terms of firepower, Baam is far above Gado as shown when he cut the transformed leg.
Overall, the fight is mainly even (most likely), Baam would've a hard time catching Gado but he won't struggle a lot to dodge or block his strikes as in base, at the same time, there is a very high chance of Gado outlasting him in the end.
So, I'd favor Gado here but both of them are really close.
-Baam (1st Thorn + revolution) : based on the fight against Kallavan, even with all these multipliers, Baam didn't seem to be faster than Karaka if not at all, who in turn is slower than 7thT Gado (with his jet boosters), so Gado is still the faster one probably, no by much though.
Kallavan also said something interesting : "". Which I interpret as Karaka > Baam defensivley. The slayer is constantly wrapped by a powerful armor after all and can protect himself with his thendrills meanwhile Baam's durability an shinsu resistance have no feat or hype making them on the level of an average HR, especially not someone who specializes in defense, even with the multipliers.
Adios's translation kinda confirms this fact as he translated "tough" as "solidly built" : "One's weak but potentially dangerous. The other is solidly built but he can't kill me".
In terms of firepower, Baam with the 1st Thorn + revolution >> Baam with just the 1st Thorn >> Gado.
So, if Gado gets just grazed by a super attack from Baam, he'd be atomized most likely. Overall, I don't see how he could last long here, the slayer candidate is close to his speed and can attack from range with extremely destructive skills. The only way he survives is to put everying at running and outlasting and even with that it'd be a dare task for him. I mean, assuming he manages to outrun Baam a bit, the latter can still attack from range with his AoE, so no matter how you look at it, this version of Baam is too much for Gado.
In fact, based on their respective feats, even Karaka would be in trouble against Baam's strongest moves (Stardust, Twin winged Wave wave expolsion, etc). I mean Yuri's Rose Shower was strong enough to dissipate the Dark world bangs and wipe Karaka's entier body, this same attack won't be able to do anything to EoB Kallavan, yet Baam managed to hurt his hand with Stardust and almost ripped his arm with the twin winged skill. So, if Karaka is tagged, he'd be pretty much done for.
While the twin winged skill requires to make contact, implying that Karaka may be able to outskill Baam at close combat (especially if he uses his thendrills), Stardust is a mid-long ranged move, so Karaka's only chance is to try dodging the blast and I guess the same goes for any Division commander tier fighter.
Overall, it's pretty clear that Baam should be at least close to the "Division commander" tier in this form, most likely even stronger, but as noted in his fight against Kallavan, he can't keep these powers for long nor can he spam his strongest moves (both Stardust and the twin winged skills were kinda taxing as he was panting after their usage). So, he is arguably a bit below this level if we take the side effects into the equation.
IV-The souls
After igniting the souls, Baam felt like he is , Khun also noted to be . At the same time, we've got an interesting comment in the corresponding blogpost :
"Of course, in terms of strength he's the strongest he's ever been, but now unlike before when he was fighting Regulars, now he fights High Rankers, so relative to his opponants, he's about as weak as he's ever been."
So, If we're to take it literally, then Baam's only High Ranker opponent in the nest until now was Kallavan. :cat
So, him being as weak as ever compared to his foes would make sens but seeing how SIU employed plurar "High Rankers", he may've meant something else. However, High Ranker level is a large interval. As we know, there is a great disparity in power between HRs themselves.
Now, since Baam was < average Regular when he just entered the tower, this statement probably implies that he is low HR level currently at most. Said otherwise : 1st Thorn + revolution Baam < soul ignition Baam <= low HRs
But based on the above analysis, it doesn't make a lot of sens. And in the case SIU was talking about Baam using everything he has at once, it would be more unbelieable. I mean, even without revolution, when Thorn Baam a from the red Thryssa (level 2), Gado to dodge it despite his speed and he even got in the process. The former 2nd in command also implied that he should end up Thorn Baam quickly before he over the Thryssa. Therefore, with just the Thorn and RT, Baam is already more than a match for Gado and Gado himself is a HR who is clearly stronger than two other HRs (Canzon and Berdytch), so he isn't even at the bottom overall.
Therefore, it'd make more sens for the "High Rankers" that SIU was mentionning to be super HRs like squadron commanders, branch heads or Maschenny.
In summary, I'd say :
-base Baam : elite Ranker/Charlie's level (25)
-Baam (1st Thorn) : low HR/Gado's level (140)
-Baam (1st Thorn + revolution) : division commander level/average HR or a little above (350)
-Baam (1st Thorn ignition + revolution) : With Thorn ignition, Baam's stats reach new heights, he gets multiple times stronger at least but the stamina is buffed way faster, something we still didn't see in the 3rd season (900).
And he still can use :
-soul ignition
-BM ignition (+ stab)
-2nd Thorn (+ignition)
as multipliers, so if he uses everything at once, he may be comparable to a branch head like Dokoko without his anima overall but as you know, Baam rarely combines more than few powers at once, even against Kallavan when he was almost done for, he still didn't opt for Thorn ignition. So, this fact also has to be taken into account.
Also, seeing how his form changes a lot and the quantity of entities/weapons he can use, it's very very difficult to give a precise number about Baam's power. Maybe, we'd have an answer in the next chapters. Let's say he is arround Yuri's level more or less atm.
According to Karaka, just the Thorn alone should make Baam jump 2 or 3 tiers.
I mean, this is what he noted in chronological order :
-after waking Yama up with the wave explosions : "Like that Airwave he used to wake Yamah up. It wasn't as powerful as mine of course, but it was . It sounds ridiculous, but if he activates the Thorn, ".
-After Baam dodging and repeling R's twin, he noted that he is.
-Prior to Baam defeating R's twin, he still believed that Baam couldn't have won against R's twin .
Basically, Karaka thought that the Thorn would boost Baam from being one shotted by the weakest Ranker (without being able to do anything) to actually beating him cleanly.
If we were to put that in numbers, that should be arround two tiers jump at least, so a x4/5 overall boost.
From the blogpost of the same chapter :
"With the Thorn activated, even a Houndborn Ranker with Metamorphosis techniques would not be sure of his chances against Baam. His attack for sure at least is reaching new heights. The fight was indeed cut short by Gado, but Baam still had a few cards he could have still played, so the match probably would have gone the same.".
So, Baam without the Thorn > R's twin without tranformation but R's twin with transformation can potentially beat Baam with the Thorn ? Based on some canine Rankers feats, transformation certainly boosts their DC a lot (and a little bit their versatility in some cases), but it's not such a drastic power up overall. So, it kinda contradicts Karaka's estimations for the Thorn.
In contrast, there is a disparity in power between canine Rankers themselves. Some are elite Ranker, others are close to advanced Rankers, some are advanced Rankers themselves? In fact even canine High Rankers (Bedytch, Canzon, Gado) exist, albeit weak ones. So, if SIU's statement was more general, then it'd make more sens.
II-Baam and Gado's comparison
"Baam can't get a grip because of Gado's strong attacks. Like I said last week, it's already remarkable that a Regular like Baam is able to even survive this long ^^;; Of course, due to various external circumstances Gado can't actually try to kill Baam properly. This is when you need to give plot armor to your main characters.".
Basically, base Baam with RT transformation only survived this long because of plot armor => 7thT Gado can beat him in no time under neutral conditions.
About Baam with the Thorn + RT :
"Anyway, we see Baam with the Thorn for the first time in a while. Even with the Thorn, since he's facing a High Ranker this can't be easy, but I hope you look forward to how the story will progress.".
So, this version of Baam can at least make things very difficult for Gado.
II-Multipliers and speed boost vs Gado's speed
If we're to talk about just the Thorn, then not only shinsu, every single physical stat is greatly boosted, including speed (ie: Baam's prior to the hell train arc or when he was chased in by Jahad and the Thorn to his first attack). Although the amp is probably not close to a "moving normally -> speedblizing" level (other regulars were still seeing him moving and reacting to his attacks).
Furtheremore, base Baam was struggling just to handle Karaka's . Seeing how Gado was faster than any non-super HR inside the cage ("Besides the super-high rankers so far, Gado is probably the ."), it further confirms the massive difference between base Baam and 7thT Gado.
Now, even if Gado held back and Baam had plot armor, the former used his highest level partial transformation (7th level), so there is some kind of proximity between him and base Baam. Therefore, with the Thorn, the slayer candidate can at least handle his speed comfortably to some extent.
Now, as shown in his fight against Data Zahard, Baam with the 1st Thorn + revolution >> Baam with just the 1st Thorn. Revolution is a massive power up, at least in terms of attacking potency. Zahard went from unleashing half-assed attacks to attacking seriously with Lecalicous, Coelacanth and Cosmos, this alone clearly shows the big gap.
The thing is that Baam's revolution consists on taking part of the red and blue Thryssas power and making it his own (ie: SIU's blogpost) and like the Thorn, (the blue Thryssa at least), the Thryssas don't just boost the DC alone, physical stats are amplified as well, greatly at that.
For example, in the fight against Buelsar, Baam kept getting and just by borrowing 's abilities. In the next tests, thanks to this power, he a regular who was hidden with a when even couldn't, he defeated another one with , leaving Khun shocked (since ) and he was able to percieve the movements of another foe at .
We don't know much about the red Thryssa but at least Baam's range from which he could use shinsu as well as the ability to read and judge situations to a + It'd make more sens for it to boost the physical stats as well.
In summary, the thryssas are great physical stats and shinsu boosters.
Furtheremore, it was explicitly shown that revolution+Thorn Baam's perception/sensing at least reaches a compared to him with just the Thorn alone.
If we look from another perspective, body strengthening is fueled by shinsu, so it'd make sens for it to grow proportionally to the quantity/potency of shinsu of the said character.
III-Baam compared to Gado and Karaka
If we were to compare Baam to Gado under different forms, I'd say :
-Baam (base) : seeing how Gado is most likely faster than Karaka or base Paul (not by much but still), it'd make sens for him to speedblitz Baam if he uses the 7th level transformation at full potency. Especially when Baam with plot armor was with Gado who was nerfing himself (see blogpost above).
-Baam (1st Thorn) : Baam's speed and reactions are greatly boosted. I'd argue that he's still decently slower than Gado but at least he'd keep up with him quite comfortably (a "being speedblitzed => blocking without much struggle" amp).
In terms of firepower, Baam is far above Gado as shown when he cut the transformed leg.
Overall, the fight is mainly even (most likely), Baam would've a hard time catching Gado but he won't struggle a lot to dodge or block his strikes as in base, at the same time, there is a very high chance of Gado outlasting him in the end.
So, I'd favor Gado here but both of them are really close.
-Baam (1st Thorn + revolution) : based on the fight against Kallavan, even with all these multipliers, Baam didn't seem to be faster than Karaka if not at all, who in turn is slower than 7thT Gado (with his jet boosters), so Gado is still the faster one probably, no by much though.
Kallavan also said something interesting : "". Which I interpret as Karaka > Baam defensivley. The slayer is constantly wrapped by a powerful armor after all and can protect himself with his thendrills meanwhile Baam's durability an shinsu resistance have no feat or hype making them on the level of an average HR, especially not someone who specializes in defense, even with the multipliers.
Adios's translation kinda confirms this fact as he translated "tough" as "solidly built" : "One's weak but potentially dangerous. The other is solidly built but he can't kill me".
In terms of firepower, Baam with the 1st Thorn + revolution >> Baam with just the 1st Thorn >> Gado.
So, if Gado gets just grazed by a super attack from Baam, he'd be atomized most likely. Overall, I don't see how he could last long here, the slayer candidate is close to his speed and can attack from range with extremely destructive skills. The only way he survives is to put everying at running and outlasting and even with that it'd be a dare task for him. I mean, assuming he manages to outrun Baam a bit, the latter can still attack from range with his AoE, so no matter how you look at it, this version of Baam is too much for Gado.
In fact, based on their respective feats, even Karaka would be in trouble against Baam's strongest moves (Stardust, Twin winged Wave wave expolsion, etc). I mean Yuri's Rose Shower was strong enough to dissipate the Dark world bangs and wipe Karaka's entier body, this same attack won't be able to do anything to EoB Kallavan, yet Baam managed to hurt his hand with Stardust and almost ripped his arm with the twin winged skill. So, if Karaka is tagged, he'd be pretty much done for.
While the twin winged skill requires to make contact, implying that Karaka may be able to outskill Baam at close combat (especially if he uses his thendrills), Stardust is a mid-long ranged move, so Karaka's only chance is to try dodging the blast and I guess the same goes for any Division commander tier fighter.
Overall, it's pretty clear that Baam should be at least close to the "Division commander" tier in this form, most likely even stronger, but as noted in his fight against Kallavan, he can't keep these powers for long nor can he spam his strongest moves (both Stardust and the twin winged skills were kinda taxing as he was panting after their usage). So, he is arguably a bit below this level if we take the side effects into the equation.
IV-The souls
After igniting the souls, Baam felt like he is , Khun also noted to be . At the same time, we've got an interesting comment in the corresponding blogpost :
"Of course, in terms of strength he's the strongest he's ever been, but now unlike before when he was fighting Regulars, now he fights High Rankers, so relative to his opponants, he's about as weak as he's ever been."
So, If we're to take it literally, then Baam's only High Ranker opponent in the nest until now was Kallavan. :cat
So, him being as weak as ever compared to his foes would make sens but seeing how SIU employed plurar "High Rankers", he may've meant something else. However, High Ranker level is a large interval. As we know, there is a great disparity in power between HRs themselves.
Now, since Baam was < average Regular when he just entered the tower, this statement probably implies that he is low HR level currently at most. Said otherwise : 1st Thorn + revolution Baam < soul ignition Baam <= low HRs
But based on the above analysis, it doesn't make a lot of sens. And in the case SIU was talking about Baam using everything he has at once, it would be more unbelieable. I mean, even without revolution, when Thorn Baam a from the red Thryssa (level 2), Gado to dodge it despite his speed and he even got in the process. The former 2nd in command also implied that he should end up Thorn Baam quickly before he over the Thryssa. Therefore, with just the Thorn and RT, Baam is already more than a match for Gado and Gado himself is a HR who is clearly stronger than two other HRs (Canzon and Berdytch), so he isn't even at the bottom overall.
Therefore, it'd make more sens for the "High Rankers" that SIU was mentionning to be super HRs like squadron commanders, branch heads or Maschenny.
In summary, I'd say :
-base Baam : elite Ranker/Charlie's level (25)
-Baam (1st Thorn) : low HR/Gado's level (140)
-Baam (1st Thorn + revolution) : division commander level/average HR or a little above (350)
-Baam (1st Thorn ignition + revolution) : With Thorn ignition, Baam's stats reach new heights, he gets multiple times stronger at least but the stamina is buffed way faster, something we still didn't see in the 3rd season (900).
And he still can use :
-soul ignition
-BM ignition (+ stab)
-2nd Thorn (+ignition)
as multipliers, so if he uses everything at once, he may be comparable to a branch head like Dokoko without his anima overall but as you know, Baam rarely combines more than few powers at once, even against Kallavan when he was almost done for, he still didn't opt for Thorn ignition. So, this fact also has to be taken into account.
Also, seeing how his form changes a lot and the quantity of entities/weapons he can use, it's very very difficult to give a precise number about Baam's power. Maybe, we'd have an answer in the next chapters. Let's say he is arround Yuri's level more or less atm.
Tier 6 : [640, 1280[
Mule : 650
Yuri Ha Zahard : 780
Baylord Paul (1st transformation) : 800
Baylord Doom (Prime, base) : 900
Yuri : Using just nuclear punches or ignition weapons, division commander level folks can probably fend off her attacks or dodge them. Rose Shower however is a game changer however.
She is also very durable/resistant to Shinsu seeing how the accumulation of many nuclear punches at full potency couldn't scratch her.
Mule : the elder's envoy. Unlike Fucile, he wasn't scared of base Yamah's reatsu. One of his strongest assets is his insane speed, according to him even Yamah wouldn't have been able to keep up with his quick moves. Although he underestimated the dog king, it still proves that he can speedblitz average/Division commander level HRs at least. The fact that he was praised by Yamah further emphasizes this fact.
In contrast, his firepower doesn't seem to be on par with his speed since a lethal move of his didn't even make Yamah budge. Still, Seeing how Yamah used level 1 partial transformation to get him, there is no doubt that he's notably above the division commander paygrade.
Baylord Paul (1st transformation) : the first transformation is massive PU. Both Yamah and Doom joined their forces to barely subdue him as kids. Seeing how the eldest bros could already transform themselves and were stronger than Paul in base, it tells a lot about how poweful this transformation is. HR Paul even lost consciousness for a little while upon activation.
Doom (Prime, base) : seeing how him and Yamah were arround the same level barring full transformation, it'd come to sens for them to have comparable power in base. However, as noted by Doom, Yamah got even stronger since their last war.
She is also very durable/resistant to Shinsu seeing how the accumulation of many nuclear punches at full potency couldn't scratch her.
Mule : the elder's envoy. Unlike Fucile, he wasn't scared of base Yamah's reatsu. One of his strongest assets is his insane speed, according to him even Yamah wouldn't have been able to keep up with his quick moves. Although he underestimated the dog king, it still proves that he can speedblitz average/Division commander level HRs at least. The fact that he was praised by Yamah further emphasizes this fact.
In contrast, his firepower doesn't seem to be on par with his speed since a lethal move of his didn't even make Yamah budge. Still, Seeing how Yamah used level 1 partial transformation to get him, there is no doubt that he's notably above the division commander paygrade.
Baylord Paul (1st transformation) : the first transformation is massive PU. Both Yamah and Doom joined their forces to barely subdue him as kids. Seeing how the eldest bros could already transform themselves and were stronger than Paul in base, it tells a lot about how poweful this transformation is. HR Paul even lost consciousness for a little while upon activation.
Doom (Prime, base) : seeing how him and Yamah were arround the same level barring full transformation, it'd come to sens for them to have comparable power in base. However, as noted by Doom, Yamah got even stronger since their last war.
Tier 7 : [1280, 2560[
Baylord Yamah (base) : 1100
Lopobia Dokoko (without the windbird) : 1600
Yamah (base) : Gado almost lost his life trying to wake him up, Lopobia Fucile (a division commander) wanted to scream in fear while facing him and he'd have being defeated in two shots if not for Yas'.
Dokoko : he one sidely overwhelmed 1stT Paul with his whip, it was implied that he could've killed him easily within few strikes or in one shot using a lethal move.
Dokoko : he one sidely overwhelmed 1stT Paul with his whip, it was implied that he could've killed him easily within few strikes or in one shot using a lethal move.
Tier 8 : [2560, 5120[ (entry top 300 High Rankers should should start in this tier most likely)
Baylord Doom (current) : 2600
Baylord Paul (current) : 2650
Baylord Doom (Prime) : 3200
Lopobia Dokoko (without soul transfer) : 3500
Baylord Doom (current) : he overwhelmed Dokoko once both of them were in a pure 1v1 fight without the windbird interfering and killed him in two moves. So, there is some kind of gap between them.
Baylord Paul (current) : at least arround Doom currently. He did better against V3 windbird compared to Doom who was overwhelmed by the V2. You can argue that the eldest bro' was taken by surprise, hence his performance but Paul's feat is still more impressive IMHO.
Baylord Doom (Prime) : the difference between the current version and his prime self should be notable as it was noted multiple times either in blogposts or in the manhwa. We can't quantify how much though.
Lopobia Dokoko (without soul fusion) : Paul and Doom struggled a bit to put him down but they did it rather quick. HT Paul was more than enough to keep up with V3 windbird meanwhile HT Doom overwhemled and completly desintegrated Dokoko's body in two moves, forcing soul transfer.
Baylord Paul (current) : at least arround Doom currently. He did better against V3 windbird compared to Doom who was overwhelmed by the V2. You can argue that the eldest bro' was taken by surprise, hence his performance but Paul's feat is still more impressive IMHO.
Baylord Doom (Prime) : the difference between the current version and his prime self should be notable as it was noted multiple times either in blogposts or in the manhwa. We can't quantify how much though.
Lopobia Dokoko (without soul fusion) : Paul and Doom struggled a bit to put him down but they did it rather quick. HT Paul was more than enough to keep up with V3 windbird meanwhile HT Doom overwhemled and completly desintegrated Dokoko's body in two moves, forcing soul transfer.
Tier 9 : [5120, 10.240[
Lopobia Dokoko : 5.500
Dowon : 7.000
Jinsung Ha : 9.000
Cha : 9.000
White (the nest) : 9.500
Lopobia Dokoko : he could take on both Doom and Paul at the same time. They forced him to fuse his soul with the windbird but couldn't stop him since then, so he is probably a solid cut above their accumulated level.
Dowon : according to Elpathion, Kallavan would've had an extremely thought fight against her with one arm sealed behind his back.
After seeing his performance against Tonki, more specifically his full powered EoB punch, Khane noted that there is no telling how a fight with her sister would go on if he uses all his skills.
Then, it was noted in a blogpost that Kallavan was strong enough to defeat everyone in the wall (Dowon + nerfed White + So-ooh + Baam and his team).
If we combine all these facts then I'd rather argue that she is arround one armed Kall's level more or less. It's not like two average HRs and few Ranker level come close to a top 300 after all.
Jinsung Ha : compared to EoB Kallavan, Jinsung is outclassed in durability, ranged attacks, muscle power (Kall' can break his arms barehanded) and most likely speed as well. However, he is more skilled in Taijutsu and his transcendantal skill (D&T gate) far more destrucive than any of Kall's attacks seing the whole it made in his body, however Jinsung has to make contact with the target for it to work.
So, how they fare compared to most ennemies is greatly affected by their fighting style, mindset and level of knowledge. However, I still consider Kall' to be a solid cut stronger.
White (the nest) : this version of White still doesn't have his prime stamina, so he can't spam his strongest skills like before. Because of that, the chances of beating Kallavan in a 1v1 seems to be in the corps commander's favor as he would ultimately outlast him (soul energy has a limit after all).
Cha : his first showing was very impressive. His single attack was deemed extremely powerful by both FT Yamah and Yasratcha. In fact, the latter even struggled a bit to counter it (although he sustained no damage), which says a lot about his power.
Furtheremore, Yasratcha went as far as claiming that capturing him would be extremely difficult. Although other parameters are to be taken into account, such as :
-Evankhell and FT Yamah being at him simultaneously
-subduing is harder than killing
-the canine people being taken hostages
-the whole 5th squadron fighting for him
It's still quite hyping regardless.
Besides, if we were to compare him to Yamah, his single attack was more difficult to handle for Yas' than the slayer's FT arm. At the same time, it was a sudden blast when Yas was busy fighting Yamah and Yamah himself was weakened from his previous fight with Khel Hellam, so we can't say much about it.
Overall, Cha is still speculative. Maybe, it'd become possible to rate him more accurately if he shows more feats in the nest.
Dowon : according to Elpathion, Kallavan would've had an extremely thought fight against her with one arm sealed behind his back.
After seeing his performance against Tonki, more specifically his full powered EoB punch, Khane noted that there is no telling how a fight with her sister would go on if he uses all his skills.
Then, it was noted in a blogpost that Kallavan was strong enough to defeat everyone in the wall (Dowon + nerfed White + So-ooh + Baam and his team).
If we combine all these facts then I'd rather argue that she is arround one armed Kall's level more or less. It's not like two average HRs and few Ranker level come close to a top 300 after all.
Jinsung Ha : compared to EoB Kallavan, Jinsung is outclassed in durability, ranged attacks, muscle power (Kall' can break his arms barehanded) and most likely speed as well. However, he is more skilled in Taijutsu and his transcendantal skill (D&T gate) far more destrucive than any of Kall's attacks seing the whole it made in his body, however Jinsung has to make contact with the target for it to work.
So, how they fare compared to most ennemies is greatly affected by their fighting style, mindset and level of knowledge. However, I still consider Kall' to be a solid cut stronger.
White (the nest) : this version of White still doesn't have his prime stamina, so he can't spam his strongest skills like before. Because of that, the chances of beating Kallavan in a 1v1 seems to be in the corps commander's favor as he would ultimately outlast him (soul energy has a limit after all).
Cha : his first showing was very impressive. His single attack was deemed extremely powerful by both FT Yamah and Yasratcha. In fact, the latter even struggled a bit to counter it (although he sustained no damage), which says a lot about his power.
Furtheremore, Yasratcha went as far as claiming that capturing him would be extremely difficult. Although other parameters are to be taken into account, such as :
-Evankhell and FT Yamah being at him simultaneously
-subduing is harder than killing
-the canine people being taken hostages
-the whole 5th squadron fighting for him
It's still quite hyping regardless.
Besides, if we were to compare him to Yamah, his single attack was more difficult to handle for Yas' than the slayer's FT arm. At the same time, it was a sudden blast when Yas was busy fighting Yamah and Yamah himself was weakened from his previous fight with Khel Hellam, so we can't say much about it.
Overall, Cha is still speculative. Maybe, it'd become possible to rate him more accurately if he shows more feats in the nest.
Tier 10 : [10.240, 20.480[
Kallavan : 10.500
Baylord Yamah : 11.000
Lopobia Lefav : 12.000
Khun Maschenny Zahard : 12.000
White (Prime) : 14.000
Evankhell : 14.000
Khel Hellam : 14.000
Lopobia Yasracha : 16.000
Kallavan : since one armed Kallavan should be arround Dowon's level, with his two arms he should be decently stronger.
Baylord Yamah : the full transformation is so strong that it made Doom (a top 100) tremble in fear. However, it doesn't last long and it has a great burden on his body.
Khun Maschenny Zahard : she may be bluffing and sarcastic in many occasions, so we can't be sure about the veridity of her statements nor how much he held back in her showings but her + EoB Kall' being numbed by Jinsung to the point of not moving a muscle stands solidly as a feat. Just based on this alone, it's pretty much obvious that she isn't far stronger than Jinsung or Kallavan.
Furtheremore, she was paired with Kallavan when they were noted as two of the strongest High Rankers. So overall, she is more or less arround this level.
Featwise, although she pierced Jinsung's body when he was fighting Kallavan, the Ha was already greatly damaged, his arms were messed up, his abdomen in a bloody state,.. and therefore in a weakened state (his body strengthening drastically lower). We can't account for that in a virutal fight against Jinsung at full power.
That being said, she is still very speculative and she can be pretty much a bit stronger than Kallavan. Especially, seeing her performance as a regular compared to future branch heads.
Lopobia Lefav : rating her is a headache. I mean, she can beat OP top 300 HRs with her bullets in a 1v1 fight.
There're no massive speed gaps in ToG after all and even top 300 HRs rarely starts with their best or fastest skills, so whatever the range (close, mid or long distance), Lefav has way more chances of defeating a super HR (she is a sniper type HR after all) rather than the opposite. Even Evankhell was warry of approaching her, which says a lot about her bullets speed and precision.
Overall, she can even beat foes far stronger than Evankhell (depending on their durability and speed). At the same time, I don't see her beating more than two average HRs at once, maybe even 3 low HRs are enough to beat her in a fight giving the rebounds.
White (Prime) : he can spam these same attacks which can force Kallavan to sacrifice a limb without losing a lot of stamina. So, he should be decently stronger than Kall'.
Evankhell : She is arround FT Yamah and Khel Hellam in terms of power but unlike FT Yamah, she doesn't suffer side effects.
Her offensive power is quite something. She could make Kallavan cower in pain and forced him to use Atomic explosion with just a single Orb.
Seing how she can make at least 4 and uncompress herself on top of that, not to mention that her close combat DC > long ranged blasts (ie : Lefav's comment when she killed Elpathion), she is probably above Kall' in just that.
In contrast, Kallavan is more durable and can regenerate even broken limbs.
Overall, Evankhell is most likely a solid cut stronger, comparable to Prime White.
Khel Hellam : comparable to FT Yamah and Evankhel. During his fight against FT Yamah, he was pushed a bit by a single transformed arm and Yamah's Full full transformation (FT applied to the whole body instead of a single arm) wasn't even used yet, however Khel's ancient was fighting Evankhell in the other side. Basically, Khel + the ancient should be comparable to FT Yamah with no time limit.
Lopobia Yasratcha : according to Doom who fought FT Yamah and even noticed how he became stronger since then, the latter doesn't stand a chance against Yasratcha. He may be just wanking his father, Doom was just a kid after all during this incident, but this still suggests a clear difference in power.
In contrast, SIU noted that if Khel Hellam wasn't PTMDed by Zahard, Yas' and the 5th squadron would've been in trouble, so basically :
Evankhell + Yamah (tired) + Khel Hellam > Yasratcha + the 5th squadron + the houndborn (as controlled hostages)
So, even if Yasratcha is stronger than Evankhel or the elder, which has to be proven, the difference shouldn't be great either. We'll probably have more clarifications in the incoming chapters.
Baylord Yamah : the full transformation is so strong that it made Doom (a top 100) tremble in fear. However, it doesn't last long and it has a great burden on his body.
Khun Maschenny Zahard : she may be bluffing and sarcastic in many occasions, so we can't be sure about the veridity of her statements nor how much he held back in her showings but her + EoB Kall' being numbed by Jinsung to the point of not moving a muscle stands solidly as a feat. Just based on this alone, it's pretty much obvious that she isn't far stronger than Jinsung or Kallavan.
Furtheremore, she was paired with Kallavan when they were noted as two of the strongest High Rankers. So overall, she is more or less arround this level.
Featwise, although she pierced Jinsung's body when he was fighting Kallavan, the Ha was already greatly damaged, his arms were messed up, his abdomen in a bloody state,.. and therefore in a weakened state (his body strengthening drastically lower). We can't account for that in a virutal fight against Jinsung at full power.
That being said, she is still very speculative and she can be pretty much a bit stronger than Kallavan. Especially, seeing her performance as a regular compared to future branch heads.
Lopobia Lefav : rating her is a headache. I mean, she can beat OP top 300 HRs with her bullets in a 1v1 fight.
There're no massive speed gaps in ToG after all and even top 300 HRs rarely starts with their best or fastest skills, so whatever the range (close, mid or long distance), Lefav has way more chances of defeating a super HR (she is a sniper type HR after all) rather than the opposite. Even Evankhell was warry of approaching her, which says a lot about her bullets speed and precision.
Overall, she can even beat foes far stronger than Evankhell (depending on their durability and speed). At the same time, I don't see her beating more than two average HRs at once, maybe even 3 low HRs are enough to beat her in a fight giving the rebounds.
White (Prime) : he can spam these same attacks which can force Kallavan to sacrifice a limb without losing a lot of stamina. So, he should be decently stronger than Kall'.
Evankhell : She is arround FT Yamah and Khel Hellam in terms of power but unlike FT Yamah, she doesn't suffer side effects.
Her offensive power is quite something. She could make Kallavan cower in pain and forced him to use Atomic explosion with just a single Orb.
Seing how she can make at least 4 and uncompress herself on top of that, not to mention that her close combat DC > long ranged blasts (ie : Lefav's comment when she killed Elpathion), she is probably above Kall' in just that.
In contrast, Kallavan is more durable and can regenerate even broken limbs.
Overall, Evankhell is most likely a solid cut stronger, comparable to Prime White.
Khel Hellam : comparable to FT Yamah and Evankhel. During his fight against FT Yamah, he was pushed a bit by a single transformed arm and Yamah's Full full transformation (FT applied to the whole body instead of a single arm) wasn't even used yet, however Khel's ancient was fighting Evankhell in the other side. Basically, Khel + the ancient should be comparable to FT Yamah with no time limit.
Lopobia Yasratcha : according to Doom who fought FT Yamah and even noticed how he became stronger since then, the latter doesn't stand a chance against Yasratcha. He may be just wanking his father, Doom was just a kid after all during this incident, but this still suggests a clear difference in power.
In contrast, SIU noted that if Khel Hellam wasn't PTMDed by Zahard, Yas' and the 5th squadron would've been in trouble, so basically :
Evankhell + Yamah (tired) + Khel Hellam > Yasratcha + the 5th squadron + the houndborn (as controlled hostages)
So, even if Yasratcha is stronger than Evankhel or the elder, which has to be proven, the difference shouldn't be great either. We'll probably have more clarifications in the incoming chapters.
Tier 11 : [20.480, 40.960[
Tier 12 : [40.960, 81.920[ (the weakest High Ranker who reached entry Ranker level when he just climbed up to the 133rd floor as a regular should belong to this tier)
Tier 13 : [81.920,163.840[
Tier 14 : [163.840, 327.680[
Tier 15 : [327.680, 655.360[
Adori Zahard : 330.000
Eurasia Enne Zahard : 330.000
Grace Mirchea Luslec : 330.000
Adori Zahard : she defeated an elite Ranker quite easily when she was still an A-class regular and became a High Ranker almost immediatly afer becoming a Ranker. So, she was most likely advanced Ranker level already (at least) when she just reached the 133rd floor, on the strong side most likely.
For various reasons as noted in , it's pretty clear that corps commanders like Kallavan or Yasratcha (or anyone arround their level) weren't remotely close to the weakest Ranker when they just reached the 133rd floor as regulars.
Now, we know that each individual's growth is far from being linear. So, Adori may've reached more of her potential before becoming a Ranker compared to the others but as for now, there is nothing supporting this fact. In fact, the highest spheres in the tower are still very speculative.
We simply don't have much to run with atm.
Eurasia Enne Zahard :
"She displayed extremely powerful abilities and was graded on an entirely different level than all the other Princesses, her strength was acknowledged even by the feuding family leaders".
So Enne was like >>> the second strongest princess in her time (which most likely included young Ranker Adori) and since her strength was acknowledged by the FHS, this implies that her potential is comparable to them. At the same time, she was a young Ranker herself (barely 4xx y/o) so she still had a monstreous room of growth just like current Yuri.
Luslec Mirchea Grace : The head of FUG, if he particiaptes in the nest war, then there is a very high chance of a family head appearing. This alone says a lot about his power and implies that Adori isn't sure to beat him in a fight. We'd probably have more infos about his martial prowess in the future.
For various reasons as noted in , it's pretty clear that corps commanders like Kallavan or Yasratcha (or anyone arround their level) weren't remotely close to the weakest Ranker when they just reached the 133rd floor as regulars.
Now, we know that each individual's growth is far from being linear. So, Adori may've reached more of her potential before becoming a Ranker compared to the others but as for now, there is nothing supporting this fact. In fact, the highest spheres in the tower are still very speculative.
We simply don't have much to run with atm.
Eurasia Enne Zahard :
"She displayed extremely powerful abilities and was graded on an entirely different level than all the other Princesses, her strength was acknowledged even by the feuding family leaders".
So Enne was like >>> the second strongest princess in her time (which most likely included young Ranker Adori) and since her strength was acknowledged by the FHS, this implies that her potential is comparable to them. At the same time, she was a young Ranker herself (barely 4xx y/o) so she still had a monstreous room of growth just like current Yuri.
Luslec Mirchea Grace : The head of FUG, if he particiaptes in the nest war, then there is a very high chance of a family head appearing. This alone says a lot about his power and implies that Adori isn't sure to beat him in a fight. We'd probably have more infos about his martial prowess in the future.
Tier 16 : [655.360, 1.310.720[
Lopobia family head : 1.280.000
Ari Han : 1.280.000
TuPeri TPeri : 1.300.000
Tier 17 : [1.310.720, 2.221.440[
Poe Bidau Gustang : 1.400.000
Hendolock Bloodmadder : 1.600.000
Eurasia Blossom : 1.800.000
Yeon Hana : 1.900.000
Compared to Adori, the FHs were far more of precocious geniuses. Just seeing Zahard and Edahn's display of power in the hidden floor...Both of them are among the strongest of the group but still, even the weakest FH should've been at least close to the weakest Ranker when they just cleared the hell train.
However, current climb =/= FHs climb. Just seeing Baam's growth when he was climbing the tower normally and how strong he became after undergoing revolution or being full time under Evankhell/Hansung's guidance. The difference is massive.
The FHs were constantly climbing by passing the admin's tests and were prepared to rule the tower and therefore, they lived in much more stimulating environment. As an example, Edahn said that they trained for a long time to master their shinsu qualities (as we know long time in the tower is at least several dozens of years), so they settled much longer compared to folk of the same calibre (Urek) and developped their abilities much more compared to a normal climb.
Overall, there are a "lot" of parameters to take into account but it's pretty clear that Adori is much younger than the FHs and she is at most comparable to them in terms of potential. So a gap should exist between them.
The FHs should also be far stronger than Enne when she was just sealed since she was still a very young Ranker. Otherwise, she'd have exploded to be far stronger than them had she reached her full potential. But as you know, it doesn't make a lot of sens.
In contrast, Molic One (#12) was noted to be a formidable warrior that even Zahard doesn't take lightly. So, is he FH level when the two princesses who are ranked above him aren't ?
What about Gustang who sees everyone who isn't an irregular as mere bugs (Baek Ryun included) ?
Overall, there is still a lot to discover, the highest sphere of the tower is very very speculative atm and most of the info we've got are from the old profils that SIU said should be ignored since the plot became private and changed a lot.
That being said, it's safe to leave two tiers between Adori/Enne and FHs. This can be changed later depending on how the plot advances and how much is revealed in the future chapters.
Now, among the FHs themslves, in terms of Ranking :
Zahard > Arie Hon > Khun Edahn > Ha Yurin > TuPeri TPeri > Eurasia Blossom > Poe Bidau Gustang > Hendolock Bloodmadder > Yeon Hana > Ari Han/LPB FH.
Many things can be guessed as well :
-Bloodmadder can be higher than his ranking since his family is the least influent/stronger among the 10 GFs. So, obviously, there should be some gap between him and those below him.
-Blossom > Gustang as a fighter
-Edahn/Hon/Yurin distinguish themselves among the FHs (only the Khun and Ha families can compare to the great Arie family).
-Yeon Hana once surpassed Ha Yurin when she became pissed.
So, if I was to rate them, it'd be something like that :
LPB FH : 1.280.000 (arguably the weakest FH)
Ari Han : 1.280.000 (arguably the weakest FH)
TuPeri TPeri : 1.300.000 (arguably the weakest FH in a fight since he is a lightbearer but his ranking is pretty high)
Poe Bidau Gustang : 1.400.000 (support type wave controller mainly)
Hendolock Bloodmadder : 1.600.000 (his ranking is quite high compared to his lack of influence and recognition, so he is quite strong)
Eurasia Blossom : 1.800.000 (the best wave controller of the group, her power is above Gustang's)
Yeon Hana : 1.900.000 (her normal strength is probably arround Gustang but if she is pissed, she surpasses Yurin. So, she is a wild card, kinda like Yihwa, hard to rate)
Ha Yurin : 3.000.000 (the weakest of the top 3 who stand above the others)
Khun Edahn : 3.200.000 (he is probably closer to Han than to Yurin giving their rankings)
Arie Hon : 3.300.000 (the strongest FH)
Zahard : 3.700.000 (Hon defied him 10 times and lost 10 times if this still holds on)
However, current climb =/= FHs climb. Just seeing Baam's growth when he was climbing the tower normally and how strong he became after undergoing revolution or being full time under Evankhell/Hansung's guidance. The difference is massive.
The FHs were constantly climbing by passing the admin's tests and were prepared to rule the tower and therefore, they lived in much more stimulating environment. As an example, Edahn said that they trained for a long time to master their shinsu qualities (as we know long time in the tower is at least several dozens of years), so they settled much longer compared to folk of the same calibre (Urek) and developped their abilities much more compared to a normal climb.
Overall, there are a "lot" of parameters to take into account but it's pretty clear that Adori is much younger than the FHs and she is at most comparable to them in terms of potential. So a gap should exist between them.
The FHs should also be far stronger than Enne when she was just sealed since she was still a very young Ranker. Otherwise, she'd have exploded to be far stronger than them had she reached her full potential. But as you know, it doesn't make a lot of sens.
In contrast, Molic One (#12) was noted to be a formidable warrior that even Zahard doesn't take lightly. So, is he FH level when the two princesses who are ranked above him aren't ?
What about Gustang who sees everyone who isn't an irregular as mere bugs (Baek Ryun included) ?
Overall, there is still a lot to discover, the highest sphere of the tower is very very speculative atm and most of the info we've got are from the old profils that SIU said should be ignored since the plot became private and changed a lot.
That being said, it's safe to leave two tiers between Adori/Enne and FHs. This can be changed later depending on how the plot advances and how much is revealed in the future chapters.
Now, among the FHs themslves, in terms of Ranking :
Zahard > Arie Hon > Khun Edahn > Ha Yurin > TuPeri TPeri > Eurasia Blossom > Poe Bidau Gustang > Hendolock Bloodmadder > Yeon Hana > Ari Han/LPB FH.
Many things can be guessed as well :
-Bloodmadder can be higher than his ranking since his family is the least influent/stronger among the 10 GFs. So, obviously, there should be some gap between him and those below him.
-Blossom > Gustang as a fighter
-Edahn/Hon/Yurin distinguish themselves among the FHs (only the Khun and Ha families can compare to the great Arie family).
-Yeon Hana once surpassed Ha Yurin when she became pissed.
So, if I was to rate them, it'd be something like that :
LPB FH : 1.280.000 (arguably the weakest FH)
Ari Han : 1.280.000 (arguably the weakest FH)
TuPeri TPeri : 1.300.000 (arguably the weakest FH in a fight since he is a lightbearer but his ranking is pretty high)
Poe Bidau Gustang : 1.400.000 (support type wave controller mainly)
Hendolock Bloodmadder : 1.600.000 (his ranking is quite high compared to his lack of influence and recognition, so he is quite strong)
Eurasia Blossom : 1.800.000 (the best wave controller of the group, her power is above Gustang's)
Yeon Hana : 1.900.000 (her normal strength is probably arround Gustang but if she is pissed, she surpasses Yurin. So, she is a wild card, kinda like Yihwa, hard to rate)
Ha Yurin : 3.000.000 (the weakest of the top 3 who stand above the others)
Khun Edahn : 3.200.000 (he is probably closer to Han than to Yurin giving their rankings)
Arie Hon : 3.300.000 (the strongest FH)
Zahard : 3.700.000 (Hon defied him 10 times and lost 10 times if this still holds on)
Tier 18 : [2.221.440, 5.242.880[
Ha Yurin : 3.000.000
Khun Edahn : 3.200.000
Arie Hon : 3.300.000
Zahard : 3.700.000
Urek Mazino : 3.700.000
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