I don't remember a single page where it has been said that Hon, Eduan and Yurin are the strongest fighters. What we know is that Hon is the second strongest after Zahard and that he has a rivalry with Eduan.
I don't remember that part about them being the best at close combat either but being the best at close combat =/= being stronger.
I don't see why only the Heads's strength would matter in a fight against families. It makes no sense.
Welp, the arie, khun and ha are without a doubt the strongest of the 10 families and their head's rank also more or less fit into this narrative. The ranks go phataminum, enryu, zahard, urek, hon, eduan, adori-enne, unknown 8, baek, yurin. With yurin we even know that she had that blood strength issue (along with zahard) around having kids. Everything we know about yurin points pretty strongly at her being pretty close to the top of the pecking order. As for the fight against families... Wouldn't that depend on whether the family heads participate in them? If they do then clearly what the others do doesn't matter. Of course if the family heads don't participate in a war between the families then all bets are off. I wouldn't want to be in a war against the khun tbh. Imagine engaging a family of agueros in open warfare... I wouldn't poke that with a battleship sized arie blade.
Using a needle does not necessarily mean you excel at physical combat/toughness. The needle is the tower's most generic/versatile weapon due to it's design that is highly functional within shinsoo. In that regard while V was almost definitely a needle user (given the black march, bam getting the black march and most representations of V having a needle) this tells us very little of his actual specs. Add to that the only trait of V we are familiar with is his high tension... Which bam inherited and was a prerequisite for the orb. However tension is ultimately beneficial to any type of fighter. Add to that, given eduan's words about not having seen an orb before it sounds like a solid bet that none of the family heads were orb users up to the hell train. It also wouldn't be strange at all if eventually bam discovers his secondary shinsoo attribute is some form of needle.
Yurin is definitely an excellent martial artist. Jinsung made the point that the ha were technicians, this definitely includes the literal origin of their traits. To me it sounds like a pretty safe bet that yurin would be the second strongest of the 13 warriors in pure physical combat that allows reinforcement. Zahard of course would have an edge due to his BS strong body. Though it's plausible yurin is a better martial artist than zahard.
Huh? I didn't say using needle gives you strong body i said while a needlesman/swordsman might not have stronger body than a martial artist,they should be generally stronger than wave controllers considering needle is prefered by fishermans(generally physically stronger) would make V stronger than wave controllers at the very least,but baam isn't even comparable to wave controllers in phyiscal abilities if we are talking about wave controllers who are comparable to him in invidiual strength. As such baam most likely inherited Arlene's physical traits,a magician who is most likely physically weakest.
Are you really sure about ha yurin being excellent martial artist? Because i don't think there is a single proof of ha yurin being excellent martial artist.Jinsung said ha families are technicians not ha yurin, ha family has blood of ari han and Ha Yurin ,being technician might just come from ari han's traits, considering yuri looks very familiar to ha yurin and yuri knowing nothing but nuclear punch would make Ha yurin not an excellent martial artist. Plus SIU himself stated in her blogpost, Although she is very clever,she has very rough fighting-style.
Huh? I didn't say using needle gives you strong body i said while a needlesman/swordsman might not have stronger body than a martial artist,they should be generally stronger than wave controllers considering needle is prefered by fishermans(generally physically stronger) would make V stronger than wave controllers at the very least,but baam isn't even comparable to wave controllers in phyiscal abilities if we are talking about wave controllers who are comparable to him in invidiual strength. As such baam most likely inherited Arlene's physical traits,a magician who is most likely physically weakest.
Are you really sure about ha yurin being excellent martial artist? Because i don't think there is a single proof of ha yurin being excellent martial artist.Jinsung said ha families are technicians not ha yurin, ha family has blood of ari han and Ha Yurin ,being technician might just come from ari han's traits, considering yuri looks very familiar to ha yurin and yuri knowing nothing but nuclear punch would make Ha yurin not an excellent martial artist. Plus SIU himself stated in her blogpost, Although she is very clever,she has very rough fighting-style.
We don't really know anything about Arlen's specs though. There is no indication that she was physically weak and we don't know what her shinsoo looked like. All we know is tha she excelled at spells... Which have been framed as having not all that much to do with shinsoo in general. IIRC the implication is that all descendants from the 10 families have high physical specs, what varies is simply the degree (with the ha-khun so far having the toughest bodies).
Welp, the entire statement is this:
" She possessed a very rough yet intelligent fighting style and a strong-enough physique to perform the duties of both a Scout and a Fisherman.[3] With grace and flexibility, she wove through the battlefield, and it is said she was the first to use Shinsu to strengthen one's body in battle. ".
Rough, intelligent, graceful... That doesn't read to me as her specifically not being a technician unless you focus exclusively on the rough part. Being a technician in the end fits with what jinsung says and it's just makes sense with her shinsoo attributes being reinforcement. Yuri is also a rough fighter in many ways but she also evidences fighting intelligently and with actual technique.
You have to put this in perspective. This is one of Eduans sons talking about his dad. (As I recall.) It is not word of god. Unlike other shows, just because a character say something does not mean that it is the voice of the author. It might just be that characters opinion.
We have official rankings of peoples strength. Hon is #5 and Eduan is #6. So Hon should be the stronger of the two even if just by a bit. And its possible that Eduan himself does not agree with this ranking. Just like how Urek does not agree that Phantamium should be ranked above him. But this ranking is the most plausible that we have available to us. Yurin is probably a fair bit weaker than those two however. Seeing as there are three other people in between her and Eduan in the rankings.
No! It is the opposite. Hon is the strongest family head, but we have no idea which family is the strongest. In fact, we have several times been told of the "three strongest families" that are above the others. But that characterization also means that people are unable to determine exactly which of these three (Arie, Khun, Ha) is the strongest.
No, the Arie have been stated (both in and out of canon) to be the strongest Family. The Khuns and Ha are simply the only Family that can compare to them.
what do you mean strongest ?
for me Khun Eduan is the strongest besides "jahad and mazino".its like khun eduan, then "arie hon and yurin ha" then "yeon hana and erussian" then "gustang and rei" then "bloodmadder and ari han and tu perie".
Don’t blame you to think like that when the main energy in the tower is the shinsu and she is the best at that..
this is my list
Taking into account the top 5 Fhs
edhan vs Yurin = Edhan W
Arie hon vs Yurin = Yurin W
Eurasia blossom vs Arie hon = Eurasia blossom W
Arie hon vs edhan = Arie hon W
Tu Tperie perie vs Eurasia blossom = Tu tperie W
based on what we have seen:
Light bearer seems to have advantage vs WC
We saw Elpathion stoping Evk vs elliot waves
He was very weak in comparison with these two but what would happens if evk flames were against sophia ability? I really believe there’s not way to those flames to advance one meter against her light house technique. Tu tperie the best at that she can stop the that waves from blossom.
Maschenny say that the best way to go against the Arie sword is by having an stronger body
Yurin possesses The stronger body to go against that sword plus she is an scout.. i got yurin
I got Blossom vs Hon based on Baam Vs white
We saw how meaningless his sword became before that intense flow of shinsu don’t cut thru
imagine the escale that blossom can send to him
That sword can do shit to her plus his bending technique has not logical meaning vs somebody controlling all the shinsu around a maximun speed.
i got Edhan vs Yurin obvious reason
He is the best in melee fight
He is the only who can go against the best technician and best body
he’s best at long distance with the spears and close by his melee
We have seen what spear has done to the steongest bodies in the serie by now
Lyborick vs kallavan
Maschenny vs JH
i got Arie hon vs edhan cause he’s better fisherman
Is long-middle rank warrior with bending technique.
bro i respect your analysis but,
edhan vs Yurin = Edhan W
Arie hon vs Yurin = Arie hon W
Eurasia blossom vs Arie hon = Arie hon W
Arie hon vs edhan = Edhan W
Tu Tperie perie vs Eurasia blossom = Eurasia W
if i could add something it would be about angered yeon hana who is stated to be above or equal to yurin hana.
i can rank them like this though we haven't seem fight:
1. Jahad
2. Mazino
3. Khun Edhan
4. Arie Hon
5. angered yeon hana
6. Yurin ha
7. Erussian blossom
8. Gustang
9. Rei
10. Tu perie
11. Bloodmadder
12. Ari han
this is my take:
>for edhan and yuri, you agree so no reason to explain.
>for arie hon and yurin, it is stated that yurin is as FH is the only one who can match both arie hon and edhan she can compete but not stronger than them and though she has a strong body, if white's sword could do what it did with white using it, could you imagine arie hon using the damn thing which is considered the strongest weapon in the entire tower, the guy even had the balls to request a match with jahad ten times meaning all those times he was confident he would match him or win though he lost all the times.
>for eurasian and arie hon, the fact that arie is a fisherman and the kind of weapon he has, and the fact he also can use shinworyu imagine if white could use shinworyu with his sword coming from every place, you said about how white become powerless infront of bam but none in the nest who couldn't become powerless infront of that bam except rei, its not like white become weak or something it that bam was in high place and bam's tension is one thing considering V had the most tension and khun said bam's tension was crazy also even data jahad admitted to that, so i don't think eruasian could have the same tension as V to be at the level of jahad.
>for arie hon and edhan edhan takes it cz the man is practically limitless if it would be a death battle, he can frezee the area he has like many properties which would work on arie hon and his speed i think he is the fastest one among them and in close combat he is the strongest and he also has a strong body and lastly we don't the amount of pills he can take and we know how strong even one pill can make you(ran overwhelmed anak just with one pill where he wasn't to her level before but when he swallowed the pill it become a different scenario), could you imagine edhan taking like 100 pills, its crazy.
>for tu perie and eurasian i got eurasian cz like it a different thing to compare rei's attacks with erusian and man rei's wasn't even trying like giving crazy powerful attacks he just used one shinworyu and deployed shinueh inside, and we don't even know what kind of shinworyu erusian use i think its very different from rei's since she is an offensive wave controller and that makes her shinworyu even more crazier, and even mazino stated an opera can stop 3sec if i remember correctly i don't think tu perie wins against someone Eurasian the most powerful wave controller in the tower.
And also one thing i would like to say is regarding though Sophia managed to hold on for a little time against rei shinworyu, i think evankhell fire which burns shinshu itself would still do damage to her cz it burns anything even shinshu itself which is crazy and i think lighthouse are no exception.
Yes, it shows that even an FH's shinwonryu isn't as all-powerful as expected and can be withstood even by a low tier top 100.
There's nothing that says that the lower rank irregulars can beat higher ranked regulars if they didn't have their very convenient immortality contracts?
the problem is that there is no such thing as lower rank irregulars(that works only among themselves). unless SIU changes his things but there is no regular beating an irregular except for a rachel of course. but other its total different, even rei is exception since being an anima isn't even his primary position its just a side thing. i think he uses those shinueh against regular whom in his minds are bugs so he decides to use bugs to fight other bugs, if you remember correctly he said that he doesn't like to do things himself "and he said that when he told them they have crossed the line of annoying" meaning all that shineuh fighting other guys isn't his fighting style or his primary fight style/ posititon. and that's why i said even rei is no exceptional. and to clear things sophia never withstood rei's shinworyu she just blocked a few shinueh and she herself stated she was reaching her limits and that's one shinworyu which was deployed and it didn't even finish its deployment, so to be clear with you none there withstood even one shinworyu from rei, and you don't except rei to be using it at its full power right? for other family heads they are all at different level but if you compare with normal high ranker(any tower born) then they are at place which any high ranker can not reach in terms of fighting power. from the shinshu which they can access, to the understanding the shinshu, to experience(they fought better opponents) and time, to their body, to the contracts they can have, and to weapons they possess(many weapons).
and what makes you think that the strongest would be on par with a weakest irregular. its like saying cz 5 is closer to 6 they are equal which is completely nonsense. the fact that the strongest regulars are their offsprings should tell the difference btn them and regulars, those who are the strongest are either jahad princesses(born from irregulars) who got jahad blood(the third strongest irregular) or their DD or someone travelled with them or from fug which happens to be lead by someone who travelled by them and thought by one of them. bro there is no way a regular equals to them unless SIU changes things.
what do you mean strongest ?
for me Khun Eduan is the strongest besides "jahad and mazino".its like khun eduan, then "arie hon and yurin ha" then "yeon hana and erussian" then "gustang and rei" then "bloodmadder and ari han and tu perie".
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bro i respect your analysis but,
edhan vs Yurin = Edhan W
Arie hon vs Yurin = Arie hon W
Eurasia blossom vs Arie hon = Arie hon W
Arie hon vs edhan = Edhan W
Tu Tperie perie vs Eurasia blossom = Eurasia W
if i could add something it would be about angered yeon hana who is stated to be above or equal to yurin hana.
i can rank them like this though we haven't seem fight:
1. Jahad
2. Mazino
3. Khun Edhan
4. Arie Hon
5. angered yeon hana
6. Yurin ha
7. Erussian blossom
8. Gustang
9. Rei
10. Tu perie
11. Bloodmadder
12. Ari han
this is my take:
>for edhan and yuri, you agree so no reason to explain.
>for arie hon and yurin, it is stated that yurin is as FH is the only one who can match both arie hon and edhan she can compete but not stronger than them and though she has a strong body, if white's sword could do what it did with white using it, could you imagine arie hon using the damn thing which is considered the strongest weapon in the entire tower, the guy even had the balls to request a match with jahad ten times meaning all those times he was confident he would match him or win though he lost all the times.
>for eurasian and arie hon, the fact that arie is a fisherman and the kind of weapon he has, and the fact he also can use shinworyu imagine if white could use shinworyu with his sword coming from every place, you said about how white become powerless infront of bam but none in the nest who couldn't become powerless infront of that bam except rei, its not like white become weak or something it that bam was in high place and bam's tension is one thing considering V had the most tension and khun said bam's tension was crazy also even data jahad admitted to that, so i don't think eruasian could have the same tension as V to be at the level of jahad.
>for arie hon and edhan edhan takes it cz the man is practically limitless if it would be a death battle, he can frezee the area he has like many properties which would work on arie hon and his speed i think he is the fastest one among them and in close combat he is the strongest and he also has a strong body and lastly we don't the amount of pills he can take and we know how strong even one pill can make you(ran overwhelmed anak just with one pill where he wasn't to her level before but when he swallowed the pill it become a different scenario), could you imagine edhan taking like 100 pills, its crazy.
>for tu perie and eurasian i got eurasian cz like it a different thing to compare rei's attacks with erusian and man rei's wasn't even trying like giving crazy powerful attacks he just used one shinworyu and deployed shinueh inside, and we don't even know what kind of shinworyu erusian use i think its very different from rei's since she is an offensive wave controller and that makes her shinworyu even more crazier, and even mazino stated an opera can stop 3sec if i remember correctly i don't think tu perie wins against someone Eurasian the most powerful wave controller in the tower.
And also one thing i would like to say is regarding though Sophia managed to hold on for a little time against rei shinworyu, i think evankhell fire which burns shinshu itself would still do damage to her cz it burns anything even shinshu itself which is crazy and i think lighthouse are no exception.
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the problem is that there is no such thing as lower rank irregulars(that works only among themselves). unless SIU changes his things but there is no regular beating an irregular except for a rachel of course. but other its total different, even rei is exception since being an anima isn't even his primary position its just a side thing. i think he uses those shinueh against regular whom in his minds are bugs so he decides to use bugs to fight other bugs, if you remember correctly he said that he doesn't like to do things himself "and he said that when he told them they have crossed the line of annoying" meaning all that shineuh fighting other guys isn't his fighting style or his primary fight style/ posititon. and that's why i said even rei is no exceptional. and to clear things sophia never withstood rei's shinworyu she just blocked a few shinueh and she herself stated she was reaching her limits and that's one shinworyu which was deployed and it didn't even finish its deployment, so to be clear with you none there withstood even one shinworyu from rei, and you don't except rei to be using it at its full power right? for other family heads they are all at different level but if you compare with normal high ranker(any tower born) then they are at place which any high ranker can not reach in terms of fighting power. from the shinshu which they can access, to the understanding the shinshu, to experience(they fought better opponents) and time, to their body, to the contracts they can have, and to weapons they possess(many weapons).
and what makes you think that the strongest would be on par with a weakest irregular. its like saying cz 5 is closer to 6 they are equal which is completely nonsense. the fact that the strongest regulars are their offsprings should tell the difference btn them and regulars, those who are the strongest are either jahad princesses(born from irregulars) who got jahad blood(the third strongest irregular) or their DD or someone travelled with them or from fug which happens to be lead by someone who travelled by them and thought by one of them. bro there is no way a regular equals to them unless SIU changes things.
It seems to me that you are just choosing you favorites and least favorites characters w/o not based
I used what i have seen so far in the serie plus the info.. i was making assumption/theories but let’s say that SIU chose to really follow the rank system, that would be super boring because if that’s like that theres not meaning in Traumrei vs Gustang because we know Gustang is ranked above him.. super bored in my opinion..is like watching a show and a friend tell you the end before you got there if the ranked place is really true we know gustang is going to win for sure so there’s not point in wait for this battle.
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Ranks are based on achievements
is obvious why traumerei is not on the 17 spots
He said: i hate doing things by myself so he has little achievements but he sure strong like them.
So when i see people saying he’s the weakest i got mad cause they just reading the chapter not the context im not mad at you by the way lol
But if you want to enjoy this series more
Forget about that list
And put them in the same level so next time you are going to base your opinion in what they have not what the ranking system believe.
It seems to me that you are just choosing you favorites and least favorites characters w/o not based
I used what i have seen so far in the serie plus the info.. i was making assumption/theories but let’s say that SIU chose to really follow the rank system, that would be super boring because if that’s like that theres not meaning in Traumrei vs Gustang because we know Gustang is ranked above him.. super bored in my opinion..is like watching a show and a friend tell you the end before you got there if the ranked place is really true we know gustang is going to win for sure so there’s not point in wait for this battle.
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Ranks are based on achievements
is obvious why traumerei is not on the 17 spots
He said: i hate doing things by myself so he has little achievements but he sure strong like them.
So when i see people saying he’s the weakest i got mad cause they just reading the chapter not the context im not mad at you by the way lol
But if you want to enjoy this series more
Forget about that list
And put them in the same level so next time you are going to base your opinion in what they have not what the ranking system believe.
At the very least, we can draw a few conclusions from the preceding chapters.
1) Jahad is tops among FH/GW
2) Khun or Arie would be 2nd or 3rd
3) Gustang is likely higher than Tram, He's obviously acting like he doesn't fear Tram while Tram seems cautious toward Gustang.
4) We don't have a good way to compare Urek, but the Tower lore says he's close to Jahad.
Trameiri has a handicap, and that is that his power seems to be tied directly or indirectly to his Shinhueh's strength along with/plus his Shinwonryu. This strongly infers that a being who is capable of withstanding his Shinhuehs and resist his Blackhole spheres would give Tram a lot of trouble to handle.
At the very least, we can draw a few conclusions from the preceding chapters.
1) Jahad is tops among FH/GW
2) Khun or Arie would be 2nd or 3rd
3) Gustang is likely higher than Tram, He's obviously acting like he doesn't fear Tram while Tram seems cautious toward Gustang.
4) We don't have a good way to compare Urek, but the Tower lore says he's close to Jahad.
Trameiri has a handicap, and that is that his power seems to be tied directly or indirectly to his Shinhueh's strength along with/plus his Shinwonryu. This strongly infers that a being who is capable of withstanding his Shinhuehs and resist his Blackhole spheres would give Tram a lot of trouble to handle.
I got what you saying
But Traumerei has no show any fear toward gustang at all, the impression he made it was because his home is being attacked and while he thought he was going to make the first hit he was punched first is that what is happening..
How he can be afraid? He was that one who parked his MT to attack gustang in their territory
He was that one who chose to fight PB
He’s not afraid at all..
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Like i said before SIU clearly say that rank are based on achievements in tower.
is clearly obvious that this guys has never done something for himself because he control others beings to do it for him
When he used his shiwonryu he say: I hate doing things by myself.
Gustang say about him: where’s traumerei at kirin?
He finally get glued to his seat? He’s there for such long time.. the best character to describe traumerei personality is Kendryck.
I got what you saying
But Traumerei has no show any fear toward gustang at all, the impression he made it was because his home is being attacked and while he thought he was going to make the first hit he was punched first is that what is happening..
How he can be afraid? He was that one who parked his MT to attack gustang in their territory
He was that one who chose to fight PB
He’s not afraid at all..
I could agree that Trameiri's reaction is due to his concern for his Family. There is the other /flip side of Gustang's agressive approach. He is showing very little respect for Trameiri. It feel like Big bro Yelling at his little brother.
I could agree that Trameiri's reaction is due to his concern for his Family. There is the other /flip side of Gustang's agressive approach. He is showing very little respect for Trameiri. It feel like Big bro Yelling at his little brother.
Paul i want to know your opinion about this
You don’t think will be bored if SIU really follow that 17 high ranking list from rank 3 to 17?
i mean in my opinion the tower is going to wolrd war.
Fh are going to be divided in who going to support zahard and who is going to support baam.
where’s the point on Traumerei vs Gustang if based on that list is obvious who is going to win? Is like spoiler there’s not point in keep reading the next chapter.
And whoever who support that list is saying that Adori , baek ryun, moli are really stronger than most FH
So they are not so special after all they just have better admin contracts.. and if that’s true that going to remove all the hype we have for Family heads.
Paul i want to know your opinion about this
You don’t think will be bored if SIU really follow that 17 high ranking list from rank 3 to 17?
i mean in my opinion the tower is going to wolrd war.
Fh are going to be divided in who going to support zahard and who is going to support baam.
where’s the point on Traumerei vs Gustang if based on that list is obvious who is going to win? Is like spoiler there’s not point in keep reading the next chapter.
And whoever who support that list is saying that Adori , baek ryun, moli are really stronger than most FH
So they are not so special after all they just have better admin contracts.. and if that’s true that going to remove all the hype we have for Family heads.
I actually have not seen the list, I only hear about it on this forum, but I just go by my own feelings based on hints in the chapter and also based on logic. So by following the story for years, I can infer relative strength but nothing is solidly sure. I also have my bias (to keep it real).
For starters, LPB Tram, seems to be kissing "A" to Jahad, that plus his interaction with Gustang makes me feel (no proof) that Gustang is higher.
Khun's interaction with Jahad on HF makes it feel like they are/were rivals, with Jahad superior but Kuhun not too distantly behind.
Khunn Eduan's advice to his son "Ran" on how to fight Arie gives the impression that he knows how to defeat an Arie, meaning Arie is probably lower than him.
Blood madder just comes accross as the Trash of the group.
Gustang Comes accross as somewhere in the middle.
So my point is that I have no idea how an open war between the FH's will go, PLUS I want to enjoy finding out if my theories are true, therefore I don't want to look at rankings too closely.
Frankly I enjoy being surprised, and reading the opinions of other forumites while introducing my own ideas too.
I actually have not seen the list, I only hear about it on this forum, but I just go by my own feelings based on hints in the chapter and also based on logic. So by following the story for years, I can infer relative strength but nothing is solidly sure. I also have my bias (to keep it real).
For starters, LPB Tram, seems to be kissing "A" to Jahad, that plus his interaction with Gustang makes me feel (no proof) that Gustang is higher.
Khun's interaction with Jahad on HF makes it feel like they are/were rivals, with Jahad superior but Kuhun not too distantly behind.
Khunn Eduan's advice to his son "Ran" on how to fight Arie gives the impression that he knows how to defeat an Arie, meaning Arie is probably lower than him.
Blood madder just comes accross as the Trash of the group.
Gustang Comes accross as somewhere in the middle.
So my point is that I have no idea how an open war between the FH's will go, PLUS I want to enjoy finding out if my theories are true, therefore I don't want to look at rankings too closely.
Frankly I enjoy being surprised, and reading the opinions of other forumites while introducing my own ideas too.
Thanks a bunch. I wonder now how SIU will continue seeing the power ratings. In my heart I feel that SIU is smart enough to be flexible and not unduly confined to the ratings. In the end there are many things that will have to unfold in due time, and I like it that way.
I feel the top 4 are unshakeable, everyone below them should be changeable whether by getting stronger, or by special techniques.
The only thing that's stopping the higher ranked regulars beating the lower ranked irregulars is the immortality contract. Every other thing is based on unconfirmed hype.
There are 6 irregulars with lower ranks than some regulars. Those are who I refer to when I say lower ranked irregulars.
The only thing that's stopping the higher ranked regulars beating the lower ranked irregulars is the immortality contract. Every other thing is based on unconfirmed hype.
It seems to me that you are just choosing you favorites and least favorites characters w/o not based
I used what i have seen so far in the serie plus the info.. i was making assumption/theories but let’s say that SIU chose to really follow the rank system, that would be super boring because if that’s like that theres not meaning in Traumrei vs Gustang because we know Gustang is ranked above him.. super bored in my opinion..is like watching a show and a friend tell you the end before you got there if the ranked place is really true we know gustang is going to win for sure so there’s not point in wait for this battle.
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Ranks are based on achievements
is obvious why traumerei is not on the 17 spots
He said: i hate doing things by myself so he has little achievements but he sure strong like them.
So when i see people saying he’s the weakest i got mad cause they just reading the chapter not the context im not mad at you by the way lol
But if you want to enjoy this series more
Forget about that list
And put them in the same level so next time you are going to base your opinion in what they have not what the ranking system believe.
i don’t denny a favor some, but if we go with facts actual stated facts then this is how i see it, jahad and mazino at the foodchain; Eduah>arie hon if its a death battle; arie>yuri han== angered yeon>Errussian>Gustang>Rei>Tu pirei>Ari han>hendolok bladmadde
bro, that’s not the thing keeping them from beating them.
you can compare them in any asepcts and u would see the difference:
try anyone, in any aspects
and those who are strong regulars are either their childs or their creations, or they work for them.
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i don’t denny a favor some, but if we go with facts actual stated facts then this is how i see it, jahad and mazino at the foodchain; Eduah>arie hon if its a death battle; arie>yuri han== angered yeon>Errussian>Gustang>Rei>Tu pirei>Ari han>hendolok bladmadde
We should be careful about the ranking , outside off know fact such as Phantainum being unbeatable , Enryuu being anormal among irregular , urek and zahard beating Hon and Hon being above the other FH the ranking among irregular should be taken with a grain off salt .
We should be careful about the ranking , outside off know fact such as Phantainum being unbeatable , Enryuu being anormal among irregular , urek and zahard beating Hon and Hon being above the other FH the ranking among irregular should be taken with a grain off salt .
Is clearly not the case but in “personality” Data edhan believed that V could fit better to be King because he was close to the ordinary people of the tower unlike zahard that most of them don’t even know how he looks but he’s their king. Zahard was clearly the leader, the strongest and most talented of them all.
Data edhan just thought that cause he was young and ignorant is not the same Edhan who chose Zahard side at the end.
