Discussion Ranking the Sins

[LivewireToriko]

He wins through NakaBA power.

I'd rather he just end up stronger and oneshot.

Instead of oneshotting through NakaBA power honestly.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

I'd rather he just end up stronger and oneshot.

Instead of oneshotting through NakaBA power honestly.

There are alot of ways to defeat someone stronger
Plus the fairies physicaly weak which makes them easier to defeat so king dosent need a power level above gloxinia to defeat him

 

[HereNThere]

Keep in mind, Glox and Dolor buffed up their Dolls when King actually began to fight. We don't know by how much they buffed them up, but I imagine they were on another level from the Albion. Glox did mention he wanted Mel to fight their golems. Either way, before King's power crapped out on him, he kept the upper hand on both newly powered up Dolls. He obviously had the power to destroy both of them, he just couldn't keep it up.

Hopefully the databook will have the levels of the dolls so we can get a better idea.

Ban's Hunter Fest is really dependent on who he fights and he still has a limit on how much he can take. This is obviously just conjecture, but, I imagine, at the most, he can only max himself out to 7,000 or 8,000 physically currently. Galan's physical ability is most like above 10,000, so Ban probably could only take half that, given as how Galan was still able to keep up with him somewhat and Ban couldn't dent his face like Mel did. Add that to the strength of the townspeople, and Ban would reach about 7,000 to his strength stat, bringing him at 10,000 all around.

Before the month skip, both were obviously at points where they could potentially hold back Commandments for a short amount of time before they fell to their own power drawbacks. By the end of this arc, I imagine that these drawbacks will not only be lessened, but they will be able to pull out more power.

Gowther is going to be a strange case. His demon powers recovering would be the quick way for him to gain strength, but, will he go for that? Or will he want to strengthen himself as he is right now first?

 

[oxtopus]

I'd rather he just end up stronger and oneshot.

Instead of oneshotting through NakaBA
power honestly.

I dunno,gloxinia is the stronger of the two,he has way more experience in using the spirit spear and fairy tree. Even if king is at his strongest I doubt he'd be more powerful than prime gloxinia since the clans were generally stronger 3000 years ago than now. To add to that glox has demon powers. So I don't see king overpowering him. Only escanor does that.
The only way I see king winning is if he has a chastifoel form with enough hax to take down gloxinia or gloxinia for some reason allows king to kill him or he fights glox with another sin or he Tnj's gloxinia

 

[smitty]

canor was 50000 when he was fighting galand and at that time he was close to noon ,and his power level rises 5 ever second so that means he grows 300 every min. So then he grows 18000 in one hour , so if it was close to noon that would be like an hour away so at noon escanor is at 68000 there yall go if yall wanted to know how strong escanor is and if you dont believe me i will give you the source

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

canor was 50000 when he was fighting galand and at that time he was close to noon ,and his power level rises 5 ever second so that means he grows 300 every min. So then he grows 18000 in one hour , so if it was close to noon that would be like an hour away so at noon escanor is at 68000 there yall go if yall wanted to know how strong escanor is and if you dont believe me i will give you the source

Give it
As of now we've seen three forms of escanor
And we know he gets a huge boost at dawn
Then at 11/11:30 gets another so the 5 points system isnt really how his power grows bcz if it was he will end up at more than 100k
And btw 11 is also close to noon so...

 

[LivewireToriko]

: Based on Versatility/Hax?

1. Merlin. (Nakaba can literally have her pull any spell out of her ass and it can last forever).

2. Gowther(Mind rape works regardless of power levels)

3. Ban(can just steal organs from people, as long as they don't have insane physical strength/also can't ever die/).

4. King(Can turn even the smallest wound into a potentially fatal Injury/spear forms).

5. Mel(Can repel all magical attacks)

6. Escanor(Sunshine is only good for nuking things)

7. Diane( Has the same ability that every single giant has, and it's not that strong);

Based on pure speculative end of series power levels when taking context from the manga?

1. Noon Escanor(Has the most hype of anyone in this series, even more than Meliodas)

2. Prime Meliodas( Strongest memeber of the strongest clan)

3. Diane(Slightly stronger than Dolor's 54k)

4. King(Slightly higher than Glox's 50k)

5. Gowther(former commandmnet, definitely stronger than Fraudrin at the least. 40-59k Doesn't need a high power level due to nature of powers)

6. Merlin(Really hax doesn't need high power level)

7. Ban(immortal/hax/and his power level is dependent on physical strength of opponent so it doesn't need to really rise, he just needs to increase limit of strength he can steal).

 

[Demonspeed]

Considering the PLs of Gloxinia, Dolor and the strongest original Commandments I think the bare minimum for a Sin after their power ups will be 50K. Merlin doesn't only have hax. She is hailed as the greatest Magician from Britania and excluding Escanor because of unstable PL, she had the highest Magic stat among the Sins, higher than even King, the Fairy King, she was 3rd in Spirit as well. Gloxinia has 47K in Magic so I think now she has at least this much. I am really curious to see how King will compare to her when he will get his wings because she seems much stronger with Infinity, her versatility and her immense Magic Power. There are still some forms he never used. Same for Diane overall, Creation depends on the Giant's skill but it doesn't look that impressive anymore, there is that unknown dance thing but still.

To be able to steal more Ban needs a higher Magic stat.

 

[oxtopus]

Merlin's magic is way too hax,just imagine her using a spell dat continuously increases her magic power and then using infinty to keep the spell from wearing off forever,then we get an infinite power level,HAXXX!!!

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Merlin doesn't need a huge pl (even though she will have one) she can defeat anyone she wants even escanor or meliodas (off guard ofc)
If she had a strong spell that could freeze them even for a second it's gg for them since it wont disappear until she decides to not even sunshine will melt it

For now the ranking goes like this (overall pl)
1- 11 am escanor / current mel
2-ban
3-king
4-merlin
5-diane
6-gowther
And at the end of the arc they'll probably be like this
1-noon escanor
2-11 am escanor/demon meliodas(70k)
3-king/merlin (25k-30k magic level)
4-gowther (50k-60k)
5-base ban 4k-5k (full power will be around 30k
As for diane i dont know what her pl will be

 

[Coné]

1- Noon Escanor
2- Meliodas
3- Merlin
4- Ban
5- Gowther
6- King
7- Diane

 

[LivewireToriko]

What's going on?

Nobody's putting Mel above Escanor based off the fact that he's the main character?

 

[kkck]

Well, to me it's given that escanor has it in him to vastly exceed any of the sins given the right circumstances. As in, he could vastly exceed even current meliodas if he so willed it. And he would also exceed meliodas in his prime if that is ever a thing. I mean, look at what he did to zeldris and estarosa.... I wouldn't put it past nakaba for that to be about comparable to mel's top.

I think the rest of the sins will get somewhat murky regarding their overall power. Gowther does not need much PL to be lethal. If he has about 30k then he should be more than fine against commandment class threats. Then again fraudrin was supposed to be weak next to him so perhaps he will reach 40k. Bam doesn't need much PL to do well either. Even now he can steal more than 10k worth of strength from his enemies. If his power increases then he should be able to tap into more. Being that he is a human he will probaly cap at around 30k IMO. The rest is taken care of by his hax magic. Merlin probably can do with having relatively lower power than the other sins... She only needs her spells to be strong for a second and then no effort goes into sustaining them.

Diane and king should reach levels comparable to dolor and gloxinia. They do need the insane PL's to fight as their abilities are pretty straightforward.

With that in mind I think it will be more or less like this:

1.- Escanor.
2.- Prime Meliodas
3.- Merlin-King-Diane
4.- Ban, Gowther

 

[Gallon]

1. Prime Meliodas (he's the strongest since he's the main character, duh)
2. Escanor (he might get another boost at noon, but Meliodas is the main character, so he's the strongest, duh)

We don't know what the rest's level will end up being.

Grabs popcorn

 

[kkck]

1. Prime Meliodas (he's the strongest since he's the main character, duh)
2. Escanor (he might get another boost at noon, but Meliodas is the main character, so he's the strongest, duh)

We don't know what the rest's level will end up being.

Grabs popcorn

Well, meliodas is the main character however the manga consistently makes the point that escanor is the strongest. We saw escanor easily and vastly exceeding estarosa by merely exerting himself a bit. Heck, at sunrise he melted a castle by merely having his mood ruined. Heck, I am pretty sure that provided it's day time he could actually just increase his powers to almost any level he wants by merely exerting himself (he did melt edinburg back in the day after all). Maybe not if he is too close too sunset though.

 

[Gallon]

Well, meliodas is the main character however the manga consistently makes the point that escanor is the strongest. We saw escanor easily and vastly exceeding estarosa by merely exerting himself a bit. Heck, at sunrise he melted a castle by merely having his mood ruined. Heck, I am pretty sure that provided it's day time he could actually just increase his powers to almost any level he wants by merely exerting himself (he did melt edinburg back in the day after all). Maybe not if he is too close too sunset though.

I beg to differ. Meliodas is a demon, whereas Escanor is a mere human - Meliodas is unstoppable.

Spoiler

It was a joke, Kk...

1. Escanor (seeing as he likely gets another power increase at noon, he should be able to take down anyone, but he can likely maintain it for a very short time)
2. Meliodas (although his power is more efficient, seeing as it does not deplete at night)

Yeah.

 

[Demonspeed]

I personally think Meliodas is stronger but this will get nowhere ATM. We didn't see Escanor at his peak and Meliodas is currently at 60K without even using his mark. There is nothing we can use to say who is stronger than who but I can't imagine one of them being much stronger than the other, and I think Escanor has probably the higher PL. But in a fight, Meliodas could reflect and/or nullify Sunshine, has his clones, the PoD and the best fighting technique in the manga so far (IMO), Escanor's Sunshine however is less versatile. It's all about firepower and although his physical strength is exceptional, I doubt his fighting technique is superior to Meliodas.

Merlin doesn't need a huge pl (even though she will have one) she can defeat anyone she wants even escanor or meliodas (off guard ofc)
If she had a strong spell that could freeze them even for a second it's gg for them since it wont disappear until she decides to not even sunshine will melt it

For now the ranking goes like this (overall pl)
1- 11 am escanor / current mel
2-ban
3-king
4-merlin
5-diane
6-gowther

I don't think an ice spell would work on Escanor because of the heat he emits. I said that she needs a huge PL because a high magic power is required for her to do all of this in the first place. Infinity is here to support her spell which stops time. With low Magic Power, more straightforward attacks like Fire Storm or Exterminate Ray would not be very effective on strong opponents.

Why did you put Ban so high despite his lack of feats? As she is know I don't believe Merlin is still at 4K so I'd put her above King in terms of PL.

 

[ShadowHeart]

Wonder how powerful Merlin was 3000 years ago since she had enough power to stop time itself. Wouldn't surprise me if her magic power rivaled the DK himself.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

I personally think Meliodas is stronger but this will get nowhere ATM. We didn't see Escanor at his peak and Meliodas is currently at 60K without even using his mark. There is nothing we can use to say who is stronger than who but I can't imagine one of them being much stronger than the other, and I think Escanor has probably the higher PL. But in a fight, Meliodas could reflect and/or nullify Sunshine, has his clones, the PoD and the best fighting technique in the manga so far (IMO), Escanor's Sunshine however is less versatile . It's all about firepower and although his physical strength is exceptional, I doubt his fighting technique is superior to Meliodas.



I don't think an ice spell would work on Escanor because of the heat he emits. I said that she needs a huge PL because a high magic power is required for her to do all of this in the first place. Infinity is here to support her spell which stops time. With low Magic Power, more straightforward attacks like Fire Storm or Exterminate Ray would not be very effective on strong opponents.

Why did you put Ban so high despite his lack of feats? As she is know I don't believe Merlin is still at 4K so I'd put her above King in terms of PL.

Well the heat that emits from escanor's body (without doing anything ) isn't that hot (jericho was able to stand next to him) so if merlin is fast enough to caught him of guard with an ice spell and use infinity he'd stay frozen for eternity
Well that's ofc if escanor couldnt release sunshine in time (between the ice spell and infinity)

We dont know what's merlin's pl right now


While mel has 60k and can use the demon mark to get a powerup
Escanor when he first fought with estarossa had a pl of 60k-64k then got a power up at 11 am and he probably has another power up at noon
So mel has one power up while escanor has two
The only advantage mel has is he can be at full power whenever he wants while escanor can't and the difference in experience ,fighting technique and he's more versatile

 

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