Discussion Regarding Baam's Immunity to Spells

[Spirit]

Recently we discovered that Baam possesses some form of immunity to spells in the Tower. While Spells are still more of a new concept to us readers, it's known that they are extremely powerful in any form. So how and why is Baam immune?

I believe that this may be because Baam was resurrected from the dead as an infant with an even more powerful spell than any that is likely to be cast. After Zahard killed the Infant Baam, he was brought back to life by.... someone, or something. The high tier spell needed to make that happen likely nullifies any spell that tries to disrupt it. What are your thoughts?

 

[projectX]

Baam mom Arlene was a spellcaster.After he died she protect his body to not rotten with a powerfull spell.I think he is immuned to almost every weak spell and only this on top level can break the shield of his spell.

 

[kkck]

My guess is that bam has an effect comparable to the 13 months. As for how bam got that, my guess would be the means for his resurrection. My theory is that bam was revived due to a spell which in turn was made with the help of an extremely powerful being from the outside. Whichever god on the outside that arlen was talking about. So an extremely powerful spell backed by an extremely powerful being...

 

[projectX]

My guess is that bam has an effect comparable to the 13 months. As for how bam got that, my guess would be the means for his resurrection. My theory is that bam was revived due to a spell which in turn was made with the help of an extremely powerful being from the outside. Whichever god on the outside that arlen was talking about. So an extremely powerful spell backed by an extremely powerful being...

The only one that can do that is Axis.There are 5 Axis and there Pantemonium is somewhere in middle n term of power.So only very strong axis(god) can give Baam a powert to revive his death soul and defeat Zahard.This is probably the yellow orb inside Baam that blue demon was afraid of.

 

[Ripcord]

The only one that can do that is Axis.There are 5 Axis and there Pantemonium is somewhere in middle n term of power.So only very strong axis(god) can give Baam a powert to revive his death soul and defeat Zahard.This is probably the yellow orb inside Baam that blue demon was afraid of.

You don’t know that. Zahard and the ten heads are king in the Tower but maybe they’re bugs outside.

 

[kkck]

You don’t know that. Zahard and the ten heads are king in the Tower but maybe they’re bugs outside.

While technically there is room for that to be the case, I doubt anyone actually believes that.

 

[Ripcord]

While technically there is room for that to be the case, I doubt anyone actually believes that.

Yes I know. I don’t really either. But still skill inside the Tower doesn’t necessarily speak to skill outside entirely.

 

[Jack Van Burace]

I think the Hidden Floor was a small scale version of the Tower itself. They entered the Tower and were stronger than the NPCs living within It. However, their life went on for too long and eventually Arlene had a child that was only real inside the Tower. She and all other 11GW made a hack to be immortals except V. Jahad killed V and their virtual kid. She then had to leave the simulation with her child, make that child into a real person, Just like they tried to bring Icarus and some items out of the Hidden Floor. Whenever they reentered Arlene used some kind of Floor Key that Gave Bam admin priviledges, sort of what was done to Rachel in a sense, but much better. So whatever vírus you apply in the Program (spells), It won't override her "changes in the kernell" that made Bam alive possible. Sorry for the computer methafores, Hope its understandable, lol.

 

[Ripcord]

I think the Hidden Floor was a small scale version of the Tower itself. They entered the Tower and were stronger than the NPCs living within It. However, their life went on for too long and eventually Arlene had a child that was only real inside the Tower. She and all other 11GW made a hack to be immortals except V. Jahad killed V and their virtual kid. She then had to leave the simulation with her child, make that child into a real person, Just like they tried to bring Icarus and some items out of the Hidden Floor. Whenever they reentered Arlene used some kind of Floor Key that Gave Bam admin priviledges, sort of what was done to Rachel in a sense, but much better. So whatever vírus you apply in the Program (spells), It won't override her "changes in the kernell" that made Bam alive possible. Sorry for the computer methafores, Hope its understandable, lol.

Lol. Don’t worry about computer metaphors.... we are all a little geeky aren’t we?

Regardless, some things that happened on the HF have established precedent for other things in the Tower. I’m sure we don’t know all of them yet. It would be interesting if they all were living in a simulation. I feel that a Truman show or Matrix type of revelation might be hard to take. It’s really fun to imagine them as being real.

Whether it is a simulation or not, even reality adheres to rules similar to a computer program so many of your ideas can apply if the Tower is a computer or not.

Unless the Tower is in FairyTail... then anything can happen.

 

[tornidooo]

SIU said that the tower is a universe among several universes
Universe and not a virtual world

 

[FailSauce]

Two things about spells:
Spells come in grades
Spells require a "contract" much like shinsoo with a powerful being, the more powerful the being, the more powerful the spell.

Which leaves 3 scenarios, one is that the spell that brought baam to life is higher grade than the spells question mark dude(forget his name) is using, therefore they cant harm him(a strong theory). OR

Since baam is an irregular and irregulars have qualities as well, his "power" set is simply stronger than zahard's and therefore spell powers granted by him can not effect baam. (remember question dude says "he received the power from the king") OR

Part of the administrator power he has absorbed via red thryssa or thorns grants him immunity...considering we have seen him effected by spell based powers prior to that absorption of the second thorn and thryssa i think this is the more likely/most likely scenario. Keep in mind that the white clone was able to effect his soul prior to that, as well on FoD itself he was effected by the guardians soul taker thingies that are also spell based. Which is two examples i can think of off the top of my head prior to him getting the second thorn/thryssa that he was effected by spells. Suggesting that his "immunity" is a new thing.

 

[DERRICK S NIBLACK]

Could be because hes an irregular. Baam already has a high resistance to shinsu. Maybe its the same with spells too? another reason could be since Arlene put a spell on Baams body after he was dead the spell that brought him back to life, nullifies all low to mid level spells probably even high level spells.

 

[Wha]

He isn't just immune to them. There is at least one example of him actively destroying one (floor of death, the immortality spell).
I personally like the idea of that being a family trait of the Grace family. Zahard's blood gives an incredible tough physical body, all Arie guys can use swords in a unique way, why should it not work with Arlene and Bam?

 

[Echizen_Akira]

I don't think he has an immunity, although I can only remember one instance of a spell not working and that was when the riddler tried his question spell. I think that failed because Baam is an irregular. Spells are contracts so the wording is important and the riddler said it works on any "regular" he asks a question.

 

[kkck]

I don't think he has an immunity, although I can only remember one instance of a spell not working and that was when the riddler tried his question spell. I think that failed because Baam is an irregular. Spells are contracts so the wording is important and the riddler said it works on any "regular" he asks a question.

Just before that bam also released the spell on that station girl. As soon as he attacked the guy using the spell the girl who was being choked was freed from it. So for whatever reason it goes further than mere immunity, spells around bam straight up stop working. I am not sure levi (?) said his spell only works on regulars but even then the evidence is pretty clear that spells around bam become useless.

 

[Echizen_Akira]

Just before that bam also released the spell on that station girl. As soon as he attacked the guy using the spell the girl who was being choked was freed from it. So for whatever reason it goes further than mere immunity, spells around bam straight up stop working. I am not sure levi (?) said his spell only works on regulars but even then the evidence is pretty clear that spells around bam become useless.

Oh, you're right, I figured it just required some lvl of concentration, but I re-read and the guy himself questioned why the spell was broken, if it was that simple he wouldn't of been surprised. Also thinking back, he also broke the spell of the thirteen months that was effecting Yuri, so it really does seem spells become useless around him.

 

[Vivek rana]

I think that a monster is sealed inside bam with a very powerful spell(thorns are the keys to unlocking it), so as a powerful spell is already at work,others won't work.

 

[TheLastMartian]

While technically there is room for that to be the case, I doubt anyone actually believes that.

There is no Shinso outside the tower so chances are they would not be very strong outside.

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As for the OP I imagine his mom who is most likely the strongest spellcaster we know of so far, to have put a very high level protection spell that maybe even took her own life to cast to ensure he would be safe from other spells.