Theory Road's True Form

[Dlanor_A.Knox]

Yes, I would love to see Maria=Road theory to be true!!!!
There is no denying in the fact that Road and Cross are close, Cross even had Road in his arms in one of the popularity polls.

 

[Coah]

Yes, I would love to see Maria=Road theory to be true!!!!
There is no denying in the fact that Road and Cross are close, Cross even had Road in his arms in one of the popularity polls.

This is what got me very suspicious of their relationship in the first place. I know it's just a fun little picture of Hoshino's that could just end up meaning nothing but I couldn't help but go "hmm... why does his feel very suspicious. Why is Cross holding her like that? Why not the Earl, Allen or Tyki, or someone she'd love to cling on to? They act like they know each other." There are hints everywhere in Hoshino's art and I think this may be one of them haha.

 

[Silverwolf442]

Yes, I would love to see Maria=Road theory to be true!!!!
There is no denying in the fact that Road and Cross are close, Cross even had Road in his arms in one of the popularity polls.

There was more to it. In another segment, Cross is still holding Road and drinking.

Cyril is yelling "Come Here Road!"
And Cross is laughing. lol

However, far as the way Cross was holding her. He did that to Lenalee as well.

He just likes holding smaller girls around their legs, I suppose. lol He does say it's great holding Lenalee like that.

 

[NonExisted]

And Road's real body couldn't be too different from her dream form, so it's unlikely that Road and Maria are the same person.

Road is for sure regarding the third side, but being against Noah is difficult cause she has proved she is loyal to them/to herself

Road understands Nea's true motive which was "saving/protecting Mana" via destroying him. Nea was still loyal to the current Earl (the promise with Mana) and his duty as a Noah, even if it costs him being marked as a "betrayal"

But I guess Road doesn't want to loose Mana either and was still finding a way to save him without killing him

 

[Coah]

Likely is not possible to Road be Maria, the best example is when Cross enters the Ark using Maria's power of invisibility, Road notices a smell of different cigarretes and suspects, and hurting Noah Joyd? Noah can damage other Noah, still the new ability of invisibility? Road has some powers but not one of them?

Road is for sure regarding the third side, but being against Noah is difficult cause she has proved she is loyal to them/to herself

Noah can damage other Noah, still the new ability of invisibility? Road has some powers but not one of them?
The invisibility is an ability from Maria's Innocence and Cross is forcing Maria to use it with his magic. The reason why Road can't use it because she's not using that body. Remember, Maria's Innocence is parasitic, so Road would have to be in the body to use it. And I don't think Road knows any magic to accomplish what Cross does.

And Road's real body couldn't be too different from her dream form, so it's unlikely that Road and Maria are the same person."

It actually makes more sense if it were different, though? Her little girl form is just a projection of her dream, she's playing around. She can warp her image into anything she dreams if she wanted. Her current body is probably more false than anything. She's also 35+, I don't expect her body to be anywhere as young as it is currently, Noah gradual aging or not.

 

[Silverwolf442]

It actually makes more sense if it were different, though? Her little girl form is just a projection of her dream, she's playing around. She can warp her image into anything she dreams if she wanted. Her current body is probably more false than anything. She's also 35+, I don't expect her body to be anywhere as young as it is currently, Noah gradual aging or not.

Actually, Hoshino says that's not true. She answered it in an interview.

• Why does Road change into various forms? ( Hoshino Interview ) “In short, Road’s dream shapes Road’s current outer appearance. That’s why she can easily turn into a doll. Road’s current form is just the appearance that she likes most. It’s the appearance of the girl she wants to be – it’s connected to her inner self. She can’t freely shapeshift into anything like the way Lulu Bell can. For example, I think it’s impossible for Road to turn into an animal that’s completely different from her inner self.”

Far as her appearance,, maybe she's the same as Cross. We don't know Cross' age. But he's been allied with Neah for 35 years, at the least. Klaud is 33 and Winters is 40. So Cross has been in the war since before Klaud was even born, and since Winters was a kid. Yet he doesn't appear that old physically. Now we could work it out so that his age makes sense to still be kind of young -maybe a youthful-looking 55 year-old. lol But Hoshino deliberately kept his age hidden. So, something isn't normal with him.

And also interesting that nobody in the story has questioned it. Depending on how long Cross has been with The Order. Hoshino had the characters discuss it in Komui's Talk. Idk if that counts, or not. lol But that's the only time his age / appearance ratio was discussed.

 

[NonExisted]

It actually makes more sense if it were different, though? Her little girl form is just a projection of her dream, she's playing around. She can warp her image into anything she dreams if she wanted. Her current body is probably more false than anything. She's also 35+, I don't expect her body to be anywhere as young as it is currently, Noah gradual aging or not.

The interview in character book said she can't be something too different from her original form. But then, I remember she did changed into Allen just because she likes him...

Noah ages, but possibly much slower than normal human...

 

[Coah]

Ah. I almost forgot about this interview. Thanks for bringing it up.

From what I understand from that interview, Hoshino is not saying Road can't shapeshift, she is saying she just can't do it freely like Lulubell can. The rule is
that her form has to be built on her inner self. If anything were to change, like let's say she gets bored of being a little girl and wants something else, she'd probably change forms to match her new inner self. When Wisely awoke he made a small comment that "Road has looked like this for the past 35 years?" This is probably saying her dream form was different 35 years ago. So, yeah, I can easily see her real body and dream form contrasting a lot in appearances.

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Hoshino says this doll has a lot of meaning to Road. So Road's current dream form is based off dolls, if that wasn't obvious enough. But you know who fits that doll theme as well, though? Maria. Cross controls and manipulates her like a doll, her Innocence is her voice which could represent a voice box in a doll, and most oddly, her left arm actually looks like a dolls arm. I'm sure there's more symbolism but I think these are the more important points.

 

[NonExisted]

Ah. I almost forgot about this interview. Thanks for bringing it up.
When Wisely awoke he made a small comment that "Road has looked like this for the past 35 years?" This is probably saying her dream form was different 35 years ago. So, yeah, I can easily see her real body and dream form contrasting a lot in appearances.

Her dream form looks the same in the flashback of chapter 218

Hoshino says this doll has a lot of meaning to Road.

*source needed

 

[Dlanor_A.Knox]

And Road's real body couldn't be too different from her dream form, so it's unlikely that Road and Maria are the same person.

I don't know about you but I look not very different from when I was older, just a bit more aged.
So Maria could be the Road's real body only a bit older, which isn't all to different from her dream form.

Also, we have never seen what's under Maria's butterfly mask, so she might have a entirely different or the same face as Road has.

 

[Coah]

Her dream form looks the same in the flashback of chapter 218



*source needed

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was from the noche book. dem photo skillz doe;x

And yes her form does look the same in chapter 218? I was referring to when Wisely first awoke to his Noah memories from chapter 187: http://mangafox.me/manga/d_gray_man/v19/c187/13.html
Sorry, I shoulda been more direct.

 

[NonExisted]

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was from the noche book. dem photo skillz doe;x

Oh nice, I never know about the comment section. I think it's more related to symbolism than plot-related though.

I was referring to when Wisely first awoke to his Noah memories from chapter 187: http://mangafox.me/manga/d_gray_man/v19/c187/13.html
Sorry, I shoulda been more direct.

I meant, during the flashback in chapter 218, that was before Nea was killed (35 years ago) and we saw Road who didn't look any different to the current one.

 

[JDSS]

I think Road's true form is her current form but (a bit or not) older, and being young is cause her personality(?), doesnt want to grow? So Hoshino said in the above interview that her current form is what she wants to be(?), although she likes to be a little doll too, but still a doll of the young girl she wants to be.
Or all this is something else related to her reincarnation, reincarnated in a young girl or older one? (For example Wisely reincarnated in a guy of 17 years old)

 

[MSofAofCOCA]

I think Road's true form is her current form but (a bit or not) older, and being young is cause her personality(?), doesnt want to grow? So Hoshino said in the above interview that her current form is what she wants to be(?), although she likes to be a little doll too, but still a doll of the young girl she wants to be.
Or all this is something else related to her reincarnation, reincarnated in a young girl or older one? (For example Wisely reincarnated in a guy of 17 years old)

I think it's something that has to be kept secret. For her, who can fight people on a mental level without raising a finger and jump through space without an arc, she might as well use her "real" body. But she doesn't. Even if Noah age slower, They still age, so the Earl aside, I'd expect Road's real body to have gained at least a couple of years. (It is possible that the aging slows/stops as soon as the Noah memory takes over. So the Earl is most likely the only one who has halted aging completely, once Mana was overridden by the Noah memory). Anyway, since Road does not use her body at all, I honestly think that she's either:

a) physically disabled due to injury/illness
b) disabled due to age (her true body is like a 100+ year old granny, and she's reliving her life/childhood vicariously through her dream persona)
c) is ill and in a coma herself (and therefore can only communicate through her dream persona
d) she is, in-fact, a doll, meaning that there was never any human host for this Noah memory

 

[JDSS]

I think it's something that has to be kept secret. For her, who can fight people on a mental level without raising a finger and jump through space without an arc, she might as well use her "real" body. But she doesn't. Even if Noah age slower, They still age, so the Earl aside, I'd expect Road's real body to have gained at least a couple of years. (It is possible that the aging slows/stops as soon as the Noah memory takes over. So the Earl is most likely the only one who has halted aging completely, once Mana was overridden by the Noah memory). Anyway, since Road does not use her body at all, I honestly think that she's either:

a) physically disabled due to injury/illness
b) disabled due to age (her true body is like a 100+ year old granny, and she's reliving her life/childhood vicariously through her dream persona)
c) is ill and in a coma herself (and therefore can only communicate through her dream persona
d) she is, in-fact, a doll, meaning that there was never any human host for this Noah memory

Yes the Earl is special, there is a theory about the suit and he never dying unlike the other Noah that has all died at least once (Road), until he got separate into Mana and Nea.
And about Road, Noah doesnt stop aging (less the Earl), but find out the age of Road is too far, only at least 35 years, but its weird, she could be inmortal too cause her ability, if she can change her body, she has ''no age'', but also then Lullubel that can change the body.

 

[candy]

okay so what if one of the supporters of the 14th, that older person we were given a glimpse of forever ago, is the real form of road???

 

[Dlanor_A.Knox]

okay so what if one of the supporters of the 14th, that older person we were given a glimpse of forever ago, is the real form of road???

Hmmmm, could be a nice twist but I don't think so.
The elder they were protecting was a man right? (at least they gave that vibe).
+ It wouldn't make sense for Road to be hidden by the Order and let her other body roam between the people she's hiding from.

 

[Zibi234]

What if roads real form was a toy doll or a present (a box) since those are things you either go to sleep with or dream about it. Like how kids take plush toys to bed becouse it helps them to go to sleep and they can cuddle to something, while presents are things we dream of as it couses us a surprise and joy becouse we never know what is inside so the shape is unknown

Kinda like we dont know if lulubell is a human with the noah memory that turns into that black panther or a black panther that turns into human shape... so its possible that she was an animal as she has some habbits of that in her human form. So its possible that road doesnt really need to be a human either.

We always see road in that space with presents and toys, even now as she is so weak that she is like a tiny little head flying around...presents. We might learn her true form when allen gets to that mansion and so we can start to learn the truth about neah and mana.

 

[Dlanor_A.Knox]

Aren't the current Noahs descendants of the original ones?
I always thought that was how they recieved their "Noahs memories".
Allen being an exception ofcourse, since he got the memories directly from someone.

 

[MSofAofCOCA]

According to the history thus far, the current Noah are descendants of the original Noah group, but it has not been explained what triggers and awakening in one person over another. Maybe it's something like similar natures/personalities/history or something like that. But given the recent emphasis on genetics and "life force", I'm even more certain that all Noah are humans (at least originally). Also, by not being human, they/Hoshino would undermine the whole "human but better" spiel that they follow in the first place. It would be really odd for Road to turn out to be a stuffed toy when she toyed with Allen for him having empathy. Still, it's hard to tell with shapeshifters like Road and Lulubell. However, I maintain that I think they are humans, even if it turns out they are "actually" much different from who they appear as a Noah. I don't have a headcanon for Lulubell, but I think Road is an old lady re-living her youth through her Dreams. It was mentioned in... Volume 24's (?) omake that Noah age slower, but Road should be pushing 50 at this point at least. We know she had this same form 35 years ago, so it's also possible she is presenting herself in this way to calm the Earl in some way.