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[Hermit]

Tyrian failed on his mission ( and even so he received punishment later on for not killing Qrow Volume 5 episode 2 " Tell Tyrian that I wish to have a word for him "

And yet he shows that " I poisoned Qrow at least she will forgive me "

Cinder completely altered the plan and thanks to that Salem lost everything in that..

I think that the line from the trailer is either Salem to Emerald or Salem to Cinder about her action in Haven

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Cinder doesn't know where the Relic is so she's going after Ruby why? because Salem also wanted her <<< If Cinder wanted revenge/power she would seek for Raven

The plan was to get the Relic from Haven. How did Cinder alter it? She went after the Spring Maiden powers because she likes power, that much has been clear since the beginning. In fact, if Raven wasn't the Spring Maiden, Cinder would have gotten out of there with two things: New Maiden powers and the Relic.
Does this mean that Hazel should also be punished?

 

[kkck]

Guys, please don't forget the spoiler tags. Some people still wait for the public release. =)

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It's obviously the latter. She had a chance to get her hands on a relic plus the Spring Maidens power, and failed hard at that. No way she can safely return to Salem. But it is entirely possible that their relationship is beyond repair now, hence Cinder might act completely on her own.

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To me that sounds weird considering so far salem has been relatively forgiving towards her subordinates. She treated cinder herself and forced wattz to treat tirian. I think there is a fairly good chance cinder remains on the side simply because she is ashamed of having failed like that. And if that is the case, there is a pretty big chance that salem objects to such show pride even more than her failure.

On another note, I wonder if salem was victim of a witch hunt. A princess alone in a castle... that was hunted by humanity like a witch... and in the process they made her into a witch with nothing but feelings of vengeance against humanity.

 

[Vici]

Hazel changed his plan and WF plan because of Cinder hate boner for Ruby and thirst for power + Cinder was never supposed to even encounter Ruby and Co. + Cinder basically gave Leo position as a spy away

" Cinder you and your team will meet with Doctor Watts and together convince Raven B. that survival of her people depends on her cooperation "
" Once you have Spring under control escort her to the Relic and contact Hazel "

Both lines are from Salem engaging Ruby and Co. wasn't part of the plan nor was killing Spring because Escort her

Cinder wants to alter the plan and a man with Brain steps in-

" We have one objective retrieving the relic of knowledge "
" If we leave the school in a bloody mess, it will draw the attention of the authorities."
" The Kingdom will be on high alert and the WF attack will be ruined "

Cinder-
" Then we wait we wait until fool moon Leo invites Qrow and his fighters the same night Hazel and Adam arrive with the WF as soon our fight is done the W deolishedHaven " <<< That's why Adam have only a few people with him to only set up the attack because he couldn't draw attention to Cinder until she's done

" We received a message from Hazel the attack on Haven will be more complicated than we thought " << WF Grunt

Main with Brain strikes again-

" Don't think I don't see what you after if this falls to pieces over your grudge to a child, I will not be the one to take a blame "

Yeah Cinder screw up even Leo said to Salem that she altered a plan and Watts most likely did so as well ( Of course she may have her own agenda with Salem but dats another theory, for now, she's not coming back because she put her desires before Salems which is much worse than for example Tyrian/Hazel just failing on a mission )


Edit: Sure if Cinder would success she would be probably insanely praised by Salem but the matter of fact is that she didn't...

 

[Hermit]

 

[lindananahayashida]

Spoiler: Rant

I hate how,
Raven = Used
=> Plots sake



I mean,
Raven V Cinder
= Lost vernal



But,
Benefit = protagonist (?!)



Now,
Cinder = Alive (!)



GREAT WRITING



At least hope,
Yang = Secret => Raven (later on)

 

[Vici]

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Tbh Yang is a hypocrite since the end of Volume 5 I hope that her keeping a secret will be brought up ( and bite her in the ass :P )

Sure the info. Ozpin and Yang are holding to themselves are maybe equal in terms of importance but what's important is the very act that Yang wants to no one hold secret etc. from her while she has a secret from Ruby for example.

I can see Yang reaching boiling point and explode on Blake not only about that she left but with everything that's inside her ( Raven, Ozpin, Blake, Adam )

I wouldn't be surprised if team RWBY would be very divided in mid. Volume or at the end of it ( again )

 

[lindananahayashida]

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Tbh Yang is a hypocrite since the end of Volume 5 I hope that her keeping a secret will be brought up ( and bite her in the ass :P )

Sure the info. Ozpin and Yang are holding to themselves are maybe equal in terms of importance but what's important is the very act that Yang wants to no one hold secret etc. from her while she has a secret from Ruby for example.

I can see Yang reaching boiling point and explode on Blake not only about that she left but with everything that's inside her ( Raven, Ozpin, Blake, Adam )

I wouldn't be surprised if team RWBY would be very divided in mid. Volume or at the end of it ( again )

Spoiler: B-But!

Raven => Relic = Gift
Yang => Sell her out = Ungrateful


On the other hand,
Ozpin => Hide = Own trust issue
Telling =/= ungrateful


Ya i know, (Im desperate)
lol!

 

[kkck]

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Tbh Yang is a hypocrite since the end of Volume 5 I hope that her keeping a secret will be brought up ( and bite her in the ass :P )

Sure the info. Ozpin and Yang are holding to themselves are maybe equal in terms of importance but what's important is the very act that Yang wants to no one hold secret etc. from her while she has a secret from Ruby for example.

I can see Yang reaching boiling point and explode on Blake not only about that she left but with everything that's inside her ( Raven, Ozpin, Blake, Adam )

I wouldn't be surprised if team RWBY would be very divided in mid. Volume or at the end of it ( again )

huh? What secret is yang keepin?

 

[Vici]

huh? What secret is yang keepin?

That Raven is a Spring Maiden

 

[Arjuna]

That Raven is a Spring Maiden

Might have told them off-panel.

 

[Vici]

Might have told them off-panel.

I doubt it honestly...

Qrow would say without Raven we can't seal the Relic not without Spring.

Yang wouldn't have been so crushed by that line and look down

She may have told them she may have not but for me, she didn't there wasn't a single hint that anyone else knows

 

[kkck]

ok, I hadn't thought of that. That is a way too crucial bit of information though, the most reasonable explanation would be that yang told them.

 

[Vici]

That is a way too crucial bit of information though, the most reasonable explanation would be that yang told them.

I think if she would tell them everyone would look at Yang the moment Qrow is saying " We don't have Spring "

We will see if she didn't that may later come up ( Or I hope that it will come up to bite her :P )

Also, I'm the only one

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That want RWBY later to ask what was the first question asked

Btw First look for Ep.3

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[Crescent Jinx]

Ugh. I hope Yang didn’t tell them off panel. Actually to hear what Qrow, Ozpin, and Ruby would say on the subject of Raven would be important. And I agree with Vici that Qrow would have referred to her as Raven and not Spring had he known. It’s more interesting if Yang kept it to herself. At the same time, that’s a bit hypocritical to talk about others.

Listening to this narration and thinking of how many Fairy Tail English VAs are in RWBY - Erza, Lucy, Sting, Gildarts. Keep the guild alive RT. Maybe we can get Todd up in this show.

 

[Vici]

@Crescent Jinx

I hope they will kill off Sting

 

[Crescent Jinx]

@Crescent Jinx

I hope they will kill off Sting

Maybe they just need to find him a Rogue ....


..... Oh wait, he has Neptune.

 

[Arjuna]

All those ft talks


I just hope the story won't be bad like Fairy Tail in RWBY.

 

[kkck]

I think if she would tell them everyone would look at Yang the moment Qrow is saying " We don't have Spring "

We will see if she didn't that may later come up ( Or I hope that it will come up to bite her :P )

Also, I'm the only one

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That want RWBY later to ask what was the first question asked

Btw First look for Ep.3

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Oh well, even the preview is packed with details,

-Salem at least was a magic user
-Salem's dad was... cruel
-At some point magic was a widely available skill to humanity.
-Human kingdoms were plentiful.

So... who was salem's father? Ozpin seems like the obvious answer. It'd be interesting if the setting here is a father daughter age old conflict. Given the princess thing I am going to assume the father locked her away due to her magic being too powerful OR simply not thinking the world was worthy of existing in the same plane as his daughter.

Magic at some point being this common is rather disturbing. How did humanity run out of magic? how did ozpin end up being a secluded old man with literally the last of humanity's magic? In one of the videos explaning the history of the world they spoke of dust being intimately connected to the fate of humanity. Could dust be related to magic somehow? I am going to take a wild guess and suggest semblances are related to magic as well. Aura might be what remains of humanity's magic.... Or maybe salem somehow took all of humanity's magic and used it to make grim...

human kingdoms being plentiful is also weird. How does that happen in the past? Humanity being scattered and with less technology than today would be a weird scenario when it comes to fighting grim. then again, humanity had magic so perhaps fighting grim was easier back then. Not sure if given grim it would make more sense for humanity to scatter so as to avoid having particularly large targets or rather to have cities as large as possible so as to more effectively fight back. Maybe the situation would be that human cities either had to be large enough to defend themselves or small enough to not attract attention. In any case, it does seem likely that this far back grim weren't all that common.

 

[TrienDarkform]

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Some kind of apocalyptic scenario, 'back to the stone age' kind of thing?

 

[Meliodaf]

I really do love Ozpin’s character and I can’t imagine there’s anything they’re about to learn that changes what they have to do or gives them insight on how to do it. This might be prying for the sake.