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I think that Gods recreate Humans I don't wanna watch it again now but didn't The light one said That if Humanity will learn the lesson and redeem themselves etc. so he was aware that Humans are there ( they probably doing another experiment :P )

Faunus are unknown...
Could be, yeah. It would explain things. But the Faunus are still an enigma ... maybe they were created alongside humans so that the gods would determine how humans would live with beings that are a bit different than them (and the gods intentionally made them in their own image).
Fuck yeah!!!! Give me Blake dragon form with cute as fuck cat ears :P
:heh more like
 

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I think I will have to watch this episode again to have a true appreciation of it. The beginning of the story, Salem being locked in a tower, and how she came about being saved felt rushed. Why was she locked away if magic was common back then? More devoted to the romance of her and Ozpin before tragedy stuck would have been nice (as Val has already mentioned).

Some nice things connecting this episode with the moon breaking from the gods leaving and their 4 children looking like the four seasons. Ozpin was shown as an old man in one of his incarnations so think the future maidens probably just reminded him of his daughters as oppose to them being the daughters reincarnated.

Salem’s literally falling metaphorically and physically were the most interesting things but when she felt in the two different pools, did anyone thing of Cinder? Or was it just me?

I don’t think they should have had the gods wipe out all of the humans just to have humans appear again. Should have hair said they killed the ones who took part in the uprising and the rest were left alone who reproduced into the second human/Faunus race.

Pretty sure those relics have been used before from more than just Ozpin.

Overall the enjoyment this episode was top. Now I want to see the reaction from this next episode.


Ok this maybe just me but Salem resembles Zeref from Fairy Tail so much that i wouldnt be surprised that RoosterTeeth took inspiration from it. Even some major players from the RoosterTeeth team are doing VA for the FT eng dub, like cmon :xp I am sorry im making this comparison but for me its kinda similar:
  • searching for a way to resurrect a loved one
  • getting cursed because of it by the gods themselves
  • becomes an immortal and op mage
  • the gods want her to understand the value of life to break the curse
  • ........ i wouldnt be surpised if she were searching for the power of the relics to turn back time for whatever reason :XD
So what you are telling me is that....

@Emperor Spriggan needs to switch from team Cinder to team Salem.


You just inadvertently compared Ozpin to Mavis.........
 

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So what you are telling me is that....

@Emperor Spriggan needs to switch from team Cinder to team Salem.


You just inadvertently compared Ozpin to Mavis.........
I guess we can start making bets if hes gonna switch or not :heh

Shame on my inadvertent actions ....
Ozpin = Mavis :facepalm oh god i hope not, but if it boils down to love in the end fight .... :fail ah the trauma
 

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I have been thinking of what ozpin could actually be hiding here. As in, what of all of this he specifically doesn't want others to know. And still, the only thing that comes to mind is salem being actually unkillable. Which is a pretty big detail to hide because ozpin's followers fighting under the assumption that salem can indeed be destroyed or defeated. Of course, this is easily solved by simply asking how to defeat salem rather than how to destroy her. I wonder if they will do this now or save it for 8 volumes in the future.

Another thing, ozpin kinda has to tell us what exactly he has asked the lamp before. Those must be pretty important questions.
 

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Ozpin has it rough.I loved their backstories. And it looks like the only way to stop Salem is reasoning.They didn’t leave Ozpin anyway to destroy her and his goal is to bring humanity together so it seems the gods still see Salem as a human in need of saving and learning. I wonder what happened to their Children too. Also I’m guessing that when Ozpin said Leo wasn’t the first person to betray him he was referring to Salem. These two are easily the most interesting characters. What I don’t understand is what they all thought he was hiding and why he felt the need to keep it secret. This really only showed that Ozpin is genuinely good and a lot of that was none of their business and could have been left to his “There’s a reason for why I do the things I do” This entire ordeal highlights the level of understanding he has that the rest of the group save for maybe Ruby does not.They owe Oz an apology.This might be my favorite episode.
 

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Seeing this episode and remembering that Grandma Maz-Katara is with them...... Makes me wonder who Maria Calavera is...

Random freeloader? Winter Maiden? Silver Eyed great grandchild of Ozpin and his second waifu? Spy for Ironwood?
 

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Seeing this episode and remembering that Grandma Maz-Katara is with them...... Makes me wonder who Maria Calavera is...

Random freeloader? Winter Maiden? Silver Eyed great grandchild of Ozpin and his second waifu? Spy for Ironwood?
Shes almost definitely Silver-Eyed and does Ozpin have any known connection to Silver eyes?
 

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Shes almost definitely Silver-Eyed and dies Ozpin have any known connection to Silver eyes?
Not currently but it was more of a joke about the current theory running wild since the new episode showed one of his incarnations had a family (not with Salem) and with children who had grayish(?) eyes. I am not sure. Will have to go back and look myself. The only connection think we know of Oz and silver eyes was that was the first thing he ever said to her... “You have silver eyes.”
 

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Also more fun bits...

it turns out the god of darkness gave magic to humanity. That seems odd considering that the lore suggested he wasn't a fan of humans to begin with. why would he do that? You'd think his motive would be so as to arm humanity and have them destroy each other.

Another thing... seeing the interaction between the god of light and ozma.. it does look like the GoL was being somewhat manipulative. At least that is the impression I got. He was.... honest with ozma but in turn it feels like he accepted ozma's acceptance too easily in a way. Also worth noting, the gods spoke of an experiment... They clearly have an agenda there. And the GoL actively pursues it through ozma. I wonder if the GoD knows about ozma...

And finally, I wonder what would have happened if salem had been honest with the GoD to begin with. Salem going to the GoL first does not seem like something we have any context to suggest would cause any offense. The god of darkness seemed more interested in having a human worshipping him than anything else. Would it have been too unreasonable for salem to go "I asked something of your brother and my faith was unrequited, could you show me mercy?" or something.

Something else I just thought about, the episode suggests ozpin can't hide from salem via changing bodies. If they meet then salem will recognized him regardless of what he looks like.
 

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Seriously is this fandom going to call...

..the god of darkness... GoD?
 

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There's a lot to unpack ( Gonna grab coffee first )



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Dunno why but overall I may have more questions than answers after that episode...

- Dust: I believe that dust is the remnant of the magic and falling pieces of the moon to the earth dunno why can't think of anything else atm.

- Faunus remain the biggest mystery for me... From Where...:

- Did Salem somehow created them when she was alone??
- Did the gods pull out a dick move and created them with Humans just to make the whole redemption of humanity harder
- Avatars of the Gods ( base form ) were basically humans with one animal trait... Did Faunus naturally come to exist from the leftovers of they powers??

I have to say that Salem was smart in supporting WF ( I wouldn't be surprised if she's behind also behind some sparks that had increased the racism )
As long as there is mistrust between Faunus and Humans ( which is there from the start ) Ozpin can't use relics

Dunno about Salem and why she wants them ( is she dumb enough to challenge them again? )

Salem goal was always to divide Humanity now we know why ( do you guys remember when I said that Blake has basically bitch slap Salem by her actions??? ) <<< I wouldn't be surprised if Salem targets Blake for that

- " You can't " now this is pretty interesting Genie actually answer this question to Ozpin while for example for RWBY the answer may be very different
She didn't say it's impossible she said that Ozpin is unable to.

- Second Familly of Ozpin: now I was mentioned on the chat by some people that the kids have Silver Eyes but for me, they're Gray so dunno

I doubt that the first kids were maidens ( Or I hope they weren't it would be giant retcon )

Even if I felt bad for Salem some of her actions made me forget about that I just dunno how to feel about her...

Even if they have gone with the worst route for me ( lovers ) it could be much worse

I can kinda see why Ozpin didn't want to tell them that because the information that they can't win may basically crush them ( especially Qrow )

Really dunno how to feel about that episode overall...
Since the last 2 years ago I was thinking this might be the case,kind of like Zeref Mavis vibe.This is the reason why you will see me saying they are lovers before in the thread before.Man I am so happy I was right.
 

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I don't know what's going on, but this has me hyped. I shall provide the asked-for treats once I have viewed the episodes myself.
Yup definitely do,I miss discussing RWBY with you.


@Vici and @Crescent Jinx (you know Upsurge) this is the guy who brought me into the lovely world of RWBY
 

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Yup definitely do,I miss discussing RWBY with you.


@Vici and @Crescent Jinx (you know Upsurge) this is the guy who brought me into the lovely world of RWBY
You do know I was in FTB a long time before I was on Mh. Know upsurge because hung around Coffee Cat, Raven, Urano, Reebi.
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Remembered there was a RWBY connection
 

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Its official,
Salem =/= Villain (Sorta)
:kissbunny

Ozpin = Poor baby! Soowie!
:worrybunny

Maidens = Cool story!
(Its the kids right?)
:gigglebunny

Gods = Jerks!
:sweatbunny

Rwby = Nice reaction!
:lovebunny

How do I destroy salem ?
OMG!
:?bunny

Hoping for,
Oz x Salem!

Its official,
Salem = mai 2nd fav character!
 

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I understand them. Ozpin said he would stop doing this and he’s still omitting and telling half truths.Though I believe that he genuinely thought not telling them would give them a better chance at attracting less Grimm at the least. And I also understand that he’s not keen on trusting people because he’s been betrayed by people who claimed to be trustworthy in his past. Unless he’s revealed to be the cause, depending on how that happened it puts his character far into question. I’m with Qrow, I trust Ozpin.
Im definitely with Raven.

Its not about,
Trusting oz
But, Being trusted!

Imagine,
Doing anything
Oz says = Trust him

In return,
You're =/= Trustworthy ?!


Besides,
Big truths = Hidden(By oz)
 

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Oh, nice catch. Could.... silver eyes be a relic or related to one? Maybe that is what ozpin meant about it being safe....
I doubt that SE are relics ( after all Summer and Ruby exist at the same time not to mention the whole clan was alive at some stage ) they are some kind of magic from Ozpin...

Also, Relics attracts Grimms ( when out of the vaults ) Ruby and Jaune ( some people think his sword is a relic <<< Dumb ) don't attract Grimms at all

I've checked the episode and yeah Ozpin second family may have silver eyes both of them
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Im definitely with Raven.

Its not about,
Trusting oz
But, Being trusted!

Imagine,
Doing anything
Oz says = Trust him

In return,
You're =/= Trustworthy ?!


Besides,
Big truths = Hidden(By oz)
We don't know how much Raven knows she probably know less than RWBY at this stage

That was one of the reason I think Ozpin keep it secret <<< Who would join the fight if they would know that they can't win

They literally saw Salem killing herself, having her head cut off ( and it was before she takes a bath in the second pool ) and her reborn from the ashes ( Ozpin killed her during the fight )

I feel bad for them tbh...

Blake has around two weeks to understand all maidens and other shit at her and now she finds out that like others she possibly join the fight where they can't win...

Yang took a Relic making her group a target and she finds out they can do nothing...

And Fucken Qrow was following Ozpin for around 20 years for what exactly...



Basically Jinn:
 
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